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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Starting to feel like Case Keenum might be starting on Thursday.

Or the rest of the season. I wonder if the opinion is that it is time for surgery.

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We are 3-3.. Not where we expected to be, but not the end of the world either.. Losing a game now isn't the end of the world. Especially if it means we can get healthy for a push to the Playoffs later.

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Starting Case Keenum might be the prudent thing to do at this point. It's a shame that injuries might derail what was a very promising season. Just our luck

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Starting Case Keenum might be the prudent thing to do at this point. It's a shame that injuries might derail what was a very promising season. Just our luck


we are 3-3 not 1-5 the only way Baker gets better is with surgery not rest.


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Baker might want to shut it down for the year and have surgery. Not only because it gives him the ability to heal properly, but it also means 11 less games of film to put on tape while playing less than 100% when you're fighting for that $$$. It's the old adage sometimes it's better for people to think you're an idiot rather than open your mouth and prove them right. Maybe it's better for Baker if people think he's not an elite franchise QB rather than go out there playing awful while banged up and confirming it.


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Baker’s already lost money IMO. And playing hurt is clearly not working either at this juncture. Not sure what to do (and it’s not my decision lol).

I do know that Keenum is trash too. Putting him out there without either OT is tantamount to giving Denver a win.


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Surgery now for Baker is to throw the towel in on the entire season.


We were loaded for a Super Bowl run, but it didn't work out. Lots of guys on 1-year deals will be moving on. OBJ will likely get cut or traded, at which point Landry may want to move on as well, and we don't have a whole lot developed behind them; we're about to be back to looking forward to the Draft and trying to build the team. Our Time came and went in six weeks.


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We should legitimately consider signing Cam Newton if Baker is out for an extended period.

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If that's the case (no Baker = throwing in the towel), then why are we paying Keenum so much money?


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
If that's the case (no Baker = throwing in the towel), then why are we paying Keenum so much money?
There's a difference between subbing for 1 game and the whole season!


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Just a reminder last time keenum subbed for a remaining season he went 11-5 and made the playoffs. In this offense. Not saying it will happen again but to say he's trash without any context is silly..he's proven to be good in this offense, if we have to have any backup come in for extended time due to injury to Baker, Keenum is prob the best choice right now. If Chubb and the tackles play I'd play keenum Thursday if nothing else to give baker some time off. If we are going to win thursday its going to be with our run game anyways


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
We should legitimately consider signing Cam Newton if Baker is out for an extended period.
If we want to show what a truly awful QB looks like we should do this... I'd stick with Case all day every day if you wanted to win some games.


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DPJ deserves more targets. I’d be good with him, Landry, and Higgy going forward


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Case Keenum is way better than Newton.

I do not believe Cam is a viable option.

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"We should legitimately consider signing Cam Newton if Baker is out for an extended period."

That is mind numbing...

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Originally Posted by Moxdawg
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If that's the case (no Baker = throwing in the towel), then why are we paying Keenum so much money?
There's a difference between subbing for 1 game and the whole season!

Not when you're one of the highest-paid subs in the league. There are plenty of QBs that are MUCH cheaper that are only good for coming in for a game or two (Colt McCoy came in at the end of the AZ game, who makes league min for his years in the league).


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Originally Posted by mgh888
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We should legitimately consider signing Cam Newton if Baker is out for an extended period.
If we want to show what a truly awful QB looks like we should do this... I'd stick with Case all day every day if you wanted to win some games.

I didn’t say cut Case Keenum.

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If Mayfield is out for the year, I'd offer a 5th or 6th round pick to Belichick for Brian Hoyer. Failing that, I'd swipe Gale Gilbert from the Patriots practice squad and let him back up Keenum.

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Keenum is here because he knows this O and KS knows him. That's why he is being paid so much. If Baker can't play he's the best option. Forget Cam Newton.

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Originally Posted by DaveyD
When it rains it pours. The Browns curse continues.

The other side of that is, maybe Felton and Johnson step up. I think there's a country song that describes thinking you lost everything, but turns out not? Wait, here it is:



Positive thoughts people.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
We should legitimately consider signing Cam Newton if Baker is out for an extended period.



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I say this off season go hard after Deshaun Watson


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How about do it now?


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I say this off season go hard after Deshaun Watson


I'm pretty sure the DA is too


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The Browns have about a 15-16% chance at any playoff berth this year under current alignment rules.

It's just about the toughest situation in the entire NFL, (And the perfect storm so far). If they could switch places with the Titans, I'd say that chance jumps to just over 70% but, it's not the case.


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Originally Posted by Steubenvillian
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I liked John Kelly in the pre-season. Nice to see him get an opportunity.


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Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
Surgery now for Baker is to throw the towel in on the entire season.


We were loaded for a Super Bowl run, but it didn't work out. Lots of guys on 1-year deals will be moving on. OBJ will likely get cut or traded, at which point Landry may want to move on as well, and we don't have a whole lot developed behind them; we're about to be back to looking forward to the Draft and trying to build the team. Our Time came and went in six weeks.

It might not be here just yet, but it might be by Friday morning. I brought up the 1 year deal yesterday. No way we will be able to keep all of them and as you mention, i don't feel all that great with some of the players sitting in the wings.

No matter what we do this year, next year might be pretty bad unless a few guys all of a sudden show up.


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Originally Posted by lampdogg
I liked John Kelly in the pre-season. Nice to see him get an opportunity.
Same here. He ran hard and made good reads. Let’s hope it translates.


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Can anyone fill me in on whose contracts are expiring at the end of this season?




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I am sure this isn't comprehensive but:

On the D-line
Billings
Clowney
McKinley
Malik Jackson

Also
Rodney Harrison
Anthony Walker

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Hopefully Woods’ contract

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by DiamDawg
Can anyone fill me in on whose contracts are expiring at the end of this season?

According to spotrac (which is usually pretty close if not totally accurate)
Spotrac - Browns
The following contracts are up after this year.

OT Chris Hubbard
TE David Njoku
OG Wyatt Teller
WR Rashard Higgins
RB D'Ernest Johnson
WR Ryan Switzer
RB John Kelly
TE Stephen Carlson
OG Hjalte Froholdt
OT Michael Dunn
OT Blake Hance

DE Jadeveon Clowney
CB MJ Stewart
DE Takk McKinley
DT Malik Jackson
DT Andrew Billings
S Ronnie Harrison
LB Anthony Walker Jr
LB Malcolm Smith
LB Elijah Lee
DE Ifeadi Odenigbo

P Jamie Gillan
K Chase McLaughlin


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And now the end is near
And so I face the final curtain


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Sucks but that has to be the smart move right now. Let's just hope Baker can get healthy(ish) for Halloween against the Steelers.


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