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Pretty brutal. Our defense gives up 15 points and we lose by five.

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Welcome to your 2021 cleveland browns...average coach, average qb, average execution, terrible defensive coordinator.

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Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.


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We're just not that good. Most overhyped overrated team in the league by far. Oh well.

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Pittsburgh was clearly the better team today. Their OL was better than our DL, their DL was better than our OL, their coaching was better than coaching

Gotta clean up the stupid mistakes - drops and penalties shouldn't happen at the rate they did today.

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Originally Posted by slick
Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.

What would Alex Van Pelt have done differently?

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Browns always crumble under expectations.

Can't believe how much Stefanski has regressed.

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Originally Posted by clwb419
Pittsburgh was clearly the better team today. Their OL was better than our DL, their DL was better than our OL, their coaching was better than coaching


I don't feel like any of these statements are true.

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This was just horrible. Jarvis had 2 big drops and a fumble. Stefanski starts getting pass happy and gets away from our identity the moment a lineman goes down.

Our offense sucks right now.


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Would it have killed the Browns to blitz a senior citizen QB a few more times today? I don't care how few points the defense gave up or where it's ranked. Joe Woods plays soft, and it's killing the Browns. On the offensive side, why is Nick Chubb not on the field more in the second half? The team was outcoached and outplayed today, and it's ridiculous.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by slick
Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.

What would Alex Van Pelt have done differently?

My thing is who is helping Woods. How does the head man in charge help his really awful defensive coordinator if he's calling plays on offense?

Stefsnski had some house money. He's burned it up.

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Originally Posted by slick
Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway.

Stefanski should give up play calling, but he's pretty good at it, but it's too much in real time. But who else are they going to get.

Browns aren't mathematically eliminated, but it's pretty much a dumb cause.

Analytics sucks!!


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Originally Posted by Swish
This was just horrible. Jarvis had 2 big drops and a fumble. Stefanski starts getting pass happy and gets away from our identity the moment a lineman goes down.

Our offense sucks right now.

Stefanski's issue is he doesn't get pass happy especially when it's necessary. He's always trying to run it when he should be passing it.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
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Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.

What would Alex Van Pelt have done differently?

My thing is who is helping Woods. How does the head man in charge help his really awful defensive coordinator if he's calling plays on offense?

Stefsnski had some house money. He's burned it up.

We gave up 15 points. We should win that game. We basically lost because of Landry's fumble.

Our QB not being able to throw down field at all is also a major problem.

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Mayfield's accuracy needs to be examined in my opinion. On deeper intermediate throws, he's struggling quite a bit missing high. It's a trend this season.

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Just a disappointing effort today by the offense. Drops, fumbles, penalties, missed throws … and BULLIED up front in the run game.

I love the Browns, but we are losers and the Steelers are winners until otherwise


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Situationally on defense we were awful again. Can't get off the field when it matters most.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.

What would Alex Van Pelt have done differently?

My thing is who is helping Woods. How does the head man in charge help his really awful defensive coordinator if he's calling plays on offense?

Stefsnski had some house money. He's burned it up.

We gave up 15 points. We should win that game. We basically lost because of Landry's fumble.

Our QB not being able to throw down field at all is also a major problem.

I agree on the lack of ability to be accurate down the field. Beckham had his man beat and was open in front of the safety; a pass with less arc and more direct towards the receiver and that's a completion. Him having to slow down and jump for the pass allowed the defender who was beat to catch up.

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I don’t even remember any long shots down the field. Do we even have an actual deep threat on the team?


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Originally Posted by Swish
I don’t even remember any long shots down the field. Do we even have an actual deep threat on the team?

DPJ is injured.

Our QB can't throw down field. His left arm is literally being held on by fabric.

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Originally Posted by Swish
I don’t even remember any long shots down the field. Do we even have an actual deep threat on the team?

That depends on your definition of deep shots.

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Stefanski lost this game with his sorry playcalling take shots down the field? does he think four yard passes to Hooper all day will score points? screens and dink and dunk all game....
Keenum could have done that and we could have rested Baker.
Our 2 best receiving options in OBJ and Njouku werent hardly featured at all. 21 million a year to mostly watch and run block .

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I guess I'll put all my Cleveland Browns memorabilia up for sale on ebay.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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Stefanski must give up the playcalling. Unfortunately it's to late now anyway. I hate saying this I really do, but our playoff chances have been squashed.

What would Alex Van Pelt have done differently?

The best way for me to explain this is simply to say watch the playoff game from last season. We were eve more banged up in that game then we are now and less talent. Not to mention have our coaching staff was out. He called a excellent well balanced game. Stefanski is to pass happy which was the knock on him in Minnesota. I like stefanski as a head coach, not as a play caller.


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Originally Posted by Swish
I don’t even remember any long shots down the field. Do we even have an actual deep threat on the team?

We have a conservative scheme, an average QB, and an average play caller who puts his QB in awful situations acting like they have the lead in the 4th when they don't.

Hard to take shots when all of that is working against you.

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Joe Woods name shouldnt be mentioned this week, imo Offense and playcalling lost this game

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Baker played well. Lots of no catches today. Landry should never have been activated; he is obviously not himself. The D played well; Woods sucked again. OMG, I hated seeing Ben get this win. I put 50% of this on being too dinged up. The other 50% split between Woods, WRs, and Ski. Ski had some not so great calls. Chubb was pretty much a non-factor as well, he's not right either and should have sat another week.

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OBJ used to be a deep threat with the Giants, with Cleveland, not so much

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And to add insult to injury, the Bengals lose. Could have made up some ground.

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Yep. I wish we could fix him, but I don't think that will happen and he will be elsewhere next year.


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Baker doesn’t even look to get him the ball!
He should be featured in the game plan unless he’s playing hurt
It used to be last year that he was trying to force him the ball. Now he’s not hardly targeted..
$15 mil a year to be a decoy I guess..?

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It was a rough loss - worse than others - because once again the Steelers beat us. We aren't as good as most of us thought we'd be.

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Pretty brutal.

Yep....another one! We are not a playoff team and are now last in the AFCN. When we were a bad team a few seasons ago, I could accept a close loss. Not any longer. We are mis-firing badly...


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Anyone else notice Chubb had no 2nd gear...he usually gets up to speed rather quick...seemed to lack that gear today.

Jarvis and OBJ were pretty much useless today.

Our O lacks any identity of rhythm when we can't force the run down an opponents throat...

Higgins had a bone head penalty that did not help

Delpit had some poor angles and wiffs on tackles today, something that was noted in his college tape.

This O is easily the most underperformed facet of our team.

How do we let their mediocre Oline handle us nearly all day.

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MAYFIELD!!! Does not need to stop making commercials....

But I thought, He may have Grown past, the over animated celebration of that first down.

Maybe that's what he needs to be, to keep his edge and keep his job, maybe that is his MOXY

But, Superstars can also keep their emotions in check sometimes.
The, act like you've been their before.
Maybe he needs it, to keep his edge, but He can also keep it in check.


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Yep. I wish we could fix him, but I don't think that will happen and he will be elsewhere next year.

If Beckham isn't with the Browns next year and he looks like his old self with another team, that essentially would mean Baker was the problem and not the receiver wouldn't it?

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Tired of hearing how great the oline is
Dump OBJ for whatever
No attention to detail (penalties galore)
Every other team converts on 4th and short except the Browns

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Originally Posted by Westy15
Stefanski lost this game with his sorry playcalling take shots down the field? does he think four yard passes to Hooper all day will score points? screens and dink and dunk all game....
Keenum could have done that and we could have rested Baker.
Our 2 best receiving options in OBJ and Njouku werent hardly featured at all. 21 million a year to mostly watch and run block .

Been saying that for the longest. We've been so run dependent that when we can't run, we can't do nothing else right. Our pass game over 20+ yards is nonexistent. We need a balanced attack or else we will see this all year long. I don't see Ski making significant changes so saddle up and ride it out like the rest of us.

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Could be worse we could have Wentz

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