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Exactly. I like how the work is already starting on telling us how to think regarding this. "It's Ok... the NFL are the bad guys, not us, and not him. They allow it."

MKC, at one point or another, had us landing every single FA QB imaginable. She's definitely a hack.

Third in pass block win rate
5.1 yards per carry
2nd most open receivers open

Yeah! It was Stefanski!

One thing I'm seeing on Twitter that's actually fair criticism is people putting Baker's reaction to the drama next to Tua and Garrapolo's handling of their situations. It kinda lends some bit of credence to the thinking that Baker isn't all that mentally tough. Again, there are VERY few QBs that can command the type of commitment he seems to expect from the org, and he's not one of them (yet).

Baker knows the Browns are looking for an upgrade at QB and he's on the way out.

If Baker is traded what is his worth? DW supposedly is going to go for 3 #1’s plus more.

I have a friend that hates Belichick and insists that he is finished at NE. He's been doing this since about 2012. One day we will be right though!

I guess we’ll see how the league values Baker.

IMO, Baker is a better get than Carson Wentz. So for argument's sake, Carson went for 2 3rds (IIRC).

I'd argue, though, that a closer comparison would be the trade that sent Wentz from the Eagles to Indy. That one was for a third and then a conditional 2nd in the subsequent year (that did end up turning into a first).

Lol. You'll see how the rest of the league treats a schizophrenic FO that suddenly wants to part ways with it's QB as much as you'll see Baker's "value".

Buy high, sell low. The Browns is always the Browns.

That said, Browns should be able to get a conditional 2nd.

she is 100% a hack. she also doesn't write 1/2 of her articles and uses other writers at PD as a source.

You honestly Andrew Berry changed overnight? Everything everyone says about him says that he is very thoughtful and calculated. The writing has been on the wall since the last Steeler game with Baker. I also think it is very telling that Jim Donovan came out and mini-slammed Baker as he never says anything controversial.

The Steelers were laughing at Mayfield on the field. That is an image that is hard to shake. I never saw a QB in a Browns uniform look worse than Baker did ion that game. That is saying alot!

clearly you don't remember the 29 quarterbacks that started before him.

Kizer was by far the worst.

j/c...

Yeah, look at all the great ones we've had since Bernie. Why would anyone think that?

Au contraire.

Last year when Deshaun Watson first wanted out of Houston the question was posed would you trade Mayfield for Watson. Most Browns fans said No! Then 2021 happened and Mayfield was terrible. Now, Watson seems to be a much better option than Mayfield.

This offense can be effective with a game manager. The problem is Mayfield simply turns the ball over too much to be a good game manager. He has the mentality of a gun slinger but does not have the ability to be a gun slinger.

Deshaun Watson throws for big numbers and does not turn the ball over. He could take the offense to another level Mayfield simply cannot.

Really? I didn't see them laughing when Baker knocked them out of the playoffs two years ago winning the first playoff game since before the return... But by all means, let's just cut him since he is such a bum. Let's go back to the good old days when we went through QB after QB and won exactly ZERO games one season. 1-15 here we come. That's the Browns you want. By the way, BAKER WAS INJURED last year. What part of that do you not understand? I hope Baker DOES leave and then wins a couple of Super Bowls. THAT would be very funny.

j/c...

This is going to be a messy divorce.

We better sure hope Watson doesn't get hurt too.

This is why we can't have nice things.

As proved by his statement last night Baker is too immature to handle matters like this. It shows on the field.

Browns' PR spin kicks into gear with one of the biggest NFL mouthpieces.

"They want an adult at QB"

Yup. Time for the hit pieces to start showing up to sway opinion.

LOL, so they go hard after DeShaun Watson, aka Jack Mehoff.

Look , I know were you stand on Stefanski. 5.1 is Chubb not KS . The OL is 5.1 not KS .. Personel groups and critical play calling are more important tahn this open receiver stat you keeping harping on. Playing a hurt QB when he shouls be on the bench was KS. Look Dawg , we will just agree to disagree .. Stafanski is your man for this Season.. We all will be witness ..lol

Browns PR team vs Baker's PR people will be wild to watch unfold.

Maybe I’ll honor baker by keeping up with the news behind a Cheesecake Factory.

So sell the farm and give up way too much for the massage addict…
I don’t see any other available clear upgrades over Baker…and everyone says he’s as good as gone…
I don’t get it. Most depressing off-season I’ve experienced

You haven't been a Browns fan very long ..lol

Back in the saddle!

I still believe if Watson chooses another team (Hopefully) that Baker will still be our QB this season, he will have ONE HUGE CHIP on his shoulder ... Go Browns

I agree Stefanski should have benched Baker, but I distinctly remember Baker making a point in the press that he will decide if he plays or not. I think that was when a rift between Baker and Ski developed.

I think it would have been the right thing for the front office to do let Baker know that they were going after Watson. They did, according to reports, tell him they would go after a QB if it was an upgrade.

Despite all this, Baker's still a Brown