DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns trade for DeShaun Watson

How we going to extend Denzel?

Why put out these false reports no players were traded, no 2nd round picks were traded, only one third, a fourth, and we get a fifth from them ... so right now we have a pick in every round except round one.

They are not.

I was just guessing before all the first round picks came out. No players were traded other than Watson that I could see. Breaking the bank like that though will probably cost something.

I'll go there from now until hell freezes over. People who have wives and daughters should be ashamed of this team and themselves. I couldn't imagine trying to justify supporting my team get a man with 22 civil sexual charges hanging over his head. I would be ashamed to even try. But some people will sell their very souls for a wining team. And Haslam is the president of that club.

He will play on the 5th year and get paid next year this cap is going to zoom the next couple years ...

No. Because he isn’t an elected official. He wasn’t traded to be my spiritual leader, or POTUS. He’s here to win football games.

That’s the business. The nfl has creep shows from the players all the way to the ownership.

I'm sad and happy at the same time.

No it's not.

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So are you done as a Browns fan? Just asking because I'm contemplating that too.

That doesn't sound like a very good excuse to support a sexual predator.

Good points. Still not sitting right with me, but thanks for the food for thought.

WOW! NEVER SAW THIS COMING!

Congratulations Swish. Happy for you and the rest of the local supporters.

I have four daughters. I have witness one of my daughters being “used” by a scumbag similar to Watson. They ended up in the court house. iPhone messages, movies. It was all there. The scumbag got away with only a slap on his wrist. 6 months later he did the same again but worse. Brutal rape on a teenager. So forgive me for being hesitant.

I want the best for the Browns and Watson is a elite QB. But don’t forget his background if something happen in the future.

Very excited.

Baker had it wrong by a day or two.

Stop rooting for the team if that is your position. I hope you don't, but a stand is a stand.

No one wants to play in Stefanski's offense. . .

Cap hell is coming - the Browns will be like the Saints were this year and every year into the future. Guess since it's a done deal - the immediate danger is Watson doesn't get suspended for a year.

But it is a good excuse to support the TEAM

Smart. Tough. Accountable. BS.

There's no way that 230 mill can all be guaranteed, can it?

Deshaun Watson $230 million
Aaron Rodgers: $150.7 million
Josh Allen: $150 million
Patrick Mahomes: $141.5 million


LMAO - here is all the proof you would ever need on how this all went down.

Watson rejects the Browns ... Browns FO look like incompetent Muppets & have to nearly DOUBLE the guarantee that the best QB in the NFL just signed a few days ago.

Ridiculous.

Yeah, although I am sure they massaged some clauses in there that they can void it under certain conditions.

My advice would be to not listen to steve0255 when it comes to cap matters and on matter related to who does/doesn't want to play for Stefanski.

I agree root for the team whoever is under those orange helmets ...

That's a boatload of money to pay a guy to just hand off the ball 60% of the plays.

It is. This contract will be seriously back loaded. The cap is going to go through the roof starting next year.

OCD, just take some time to let it settle in then make a decision. Once this calms down you'll know your true feelings for the situation. This was a crazy change of events within the past 24-48 hours

We passed more than we ran last year. If we still run as much as we did with Baker now that we have Watson then there should be skepticism.

The whole time the team has been bad, or even aspiring to be mediocre, I have rooted for them, but now that they're nearly a lock to be good, I don't feel like I can root for them anymore.

So very expensive, but not much you can do at this point.

Bro I have two daughters myself. I have NEVER told anyone to throw themselves at Watson from a character perspective. I was the first one on this board calling him a creep when the news first dropped of the accusations.

I have always spoken about Watson from a pure football standpoint. I’m a fan of the team first, players second. If Watson ever leaves, it’s fine. I’ll throw my support behind the next QB of the browns until they prove they suck, as I’ve always done. So in your case, of course you should be SEVERELY hesitant, and you won’t ever hear different from me.

But at the end of the day, it’s the NFL. We have a scumbag owner, a guy who kicked the crap out of a woman on video, and another dude going on drug fueled binges getting arrested naked. If I was to use my own morality on the NFL, I wouldn’t be able to watch the NFL, or any sport for that matter.

The FO was going to make this move anyway, no matter how you or I felt about it. Because teams are in the business of trying to win games, not win character awards.

it's tough, but as someone else said, maybe it's time we just root for the helmet, not for the guy under it.

Well that sucks....FYI, most of our major pieces are already signed for multiple years (i.e. Garrett, Chubb, Cooper, Newsome, JOK, JJIII, Teller, Bitonio (i think), our LT, our new QB)

1 million dollar base salary for 2022?

Damn this Berry guy is good!

For some reason I knew you wouldn't fess up and admit he got it right.


There is a 53 man roster, practice squad and an entire coaching staff. I won't abandon all of them because of a scum bag owner and a predator at QB. As you know I put up with Modell for what seemed like forever. But you can bet your ass I will be very vocal about what's going on here. People are just going to have to learn to deal with that or they are going to have their panties in a bunch moving forward.

You can also bet that I won't be alone in not spending another dime in support of this team. No merchandise, no NFL Sunday Ticket. Not a dime. I'm still shocked you would welcome someone like him to our team. You better hope he's good at picking a HC. Because in Houston he threw a tantrum and demanded a trade when he couldn't. And you thought baker was immature?



I would tell you to be careful what you wish for but it's too late for that.

According to you we couldn't have done this deal in the first place. So it's a little late to try and preach about it now.

I think you’ll feel bette Ron game day… lot to process right now