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The Personal Conduct Policy was approved by the NFLPA, so I don't think they can challenge from that angle. I think the angle they are threatening to pursue is that there is plenty of evidence of biased and inconsistent in terms of punishment when it comes to owners vs players when the Personal Conduct policy is violated. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I am expressing my properly?

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Originally Posted by Rottweiller
J/C. With this Watson issue coming to a close sooner than later, can anyone tell me if him sitting all last year factors in at all? I didn’t read all 6 pages of the thread to see if somebody else covered that. I am thinking it has to be looked at a little. For him to miss even 8 games plus last year seems quite a lot considering there have been no criminal charges. I totally understand the severity of everything but I just don’t know how the discipline will be factored in with last year also.

Watson refused to play for the Texans', demanded a trade and sat out the season with pay. It had nothing to do with these allegations in my opinion. I doubt it has any factor in the suspension for his actions in this case.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
The Personal Conduct Policy was approved by the NFLPA, so I don't think they can challenge from that angle. I think the angle they are threatening to pursue is that there is plenty of evidence of biased and inconsistent in terms of punishment when it comes to owners vs players when the Personal Conduct policy is violated. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I am expressing my properly?

I think you expressed it clearly. I disagree with your take on this. The league can say they made mistakes in the past and that those instances play no part in this decision. I don't think that line of reasoning is going to make one bit of difference.


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The Snyder case is ongoing. The NFLPA have already initiated this line of defense. We'll see...

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
The Personal Conduct Policy was approved by the NFLPA, so I don't think they can challenge from that angle. I think the angle they are threatening to pursue is that there is plenty of evidence of biased and inconsistent in terms of punishment when it comes to owners vs players when the Personal Conduct policy is violated. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I am expressing my properly?

You are. If anything, it probably wouldn't be of any help to Watson. It might make it harder on owners. I think that is why they now employ a ALJ of sorts who make the recommendations on sanctions, to shield the Commish from having to make decisions on essentially his employers. It's hard to make decisions against the people who sign your paycheck and hold your employment in their hands.


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I agree with that take.

I think there has always been a discrepancy between owners, owners conduct, owners discipline for issues when compared to the treatment of the players. I would suggest that this is the same for 99% of all businesses. The owner is treated differently then the employees. It doesn't make it morally right and I think times are changing - people complain about "woke" culture, but I'd say addressing some of these types of imbalances might be a part of some of the 'woke' stuff. But regardless - mistakes and inappropriate decisions in the past probably won't make a lot of difference in this case as the NFL will want to be seen to treat these situations seriously and (probably) punitively. And yes, I think it is mostly about image, brand and $$$.

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I'm glad watson settled 20 of 24 cases,,,, He still has four to go and my guess is that in no time at all, now that they've seen the Money, more will come out.

No matter what, Watson is still a scumbag... No character at all...


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You are all making fair and valid points. I'm not arguing at this point and this is just another thing to consider. The NFLPA isn't just a bunch of players making decisions. To my knowledge, they have 4 attorneys as part of their legal counsel team. So, why would the NFLPA under the advice of their attorneys go public w/them bringing in Snyder, Jones, and Kraft into things when discussing Watson's defense if they did not think it was a viable strategy?

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Sounds consistent with a report I talked about earlier about a offer was made and all but 4 wanted to settle, but the Watson camp made it a all or nothing deal.

Looks like the Watson camp decided getting the window dressing out of the way was the way to go to concentrate on the meat and potato's.

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Hmmm, let me get this straight. Big Ben gets accused of rape with no criminal charges or civil suits and settles but is still deemed a rapist on this forum multiple times.

Bill Cosby just lost a civil suit where it took a woman 50 years to come out with her claims of improper sexual advances but any woman that comes out now with a claim against Watson is late to the game and should be discounted.

Hunt receives an 8-game suspension for one incident against 1 woman and yet 24 claims against Watson with more coming should receive the same consideration because the ladies had a single lawyer even though his actions occurred against multiple women over a 12-14 month period.

I have no idea what the NFL is going to do but settling 20 of these cases didn't clear Watson's name and with 4 still open and 2 predicted to come, he still should be facing a minimum of a year suspension. If the NFL goes light on Watson it will be a slap in the face to every women in America and set a precedent of it doesn't matter what NFL players do. Not to mention the fact that there were 66 women involved according to the NYTimes. How many women does it take to come out before the NFL and some on this forum to understand that this player has a serious issue with the treatment of women. Does it have to get to 30, maybe 40 or is the line in the sand 50? Hell, if I was Hunt I'd be livid that people think Watson should get less suspension time that what Hunt received. Yep, that's fair and balanced.


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Will other lawsuits be filed against Deshaun Watson?

Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2022, 7:19 AM EDT
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The settlement of 20 lawsuits pending against Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson came eight days after attorney Tony Buzbee vowed that two more lawsuits would be filed, pushing the total to 26.

Omitted from Tuesday’s statement issued by Buzbee regarding the settlements is the question of whether those lawsuits will be filed — and whether others will proceed. Indeed, the statement Buzbee issued in response to Watson’s recent press conference suggested that even more lawsuits are coming.
Was that merely bluster in the hopes of settling cases, or was it real? Time will tell.

It’s also possible that the commencement of the settlement process (the final four cases could in theory be settled at any time) has included a wink-nod from Buzbee to Watson’s camp that Buzbee is exiting the business of suing Deshaun Watson. Buzbee can’t make that commitment officially; the rules of ethics prevent lawyers from agreeing to restrict their future practices in order to resolve current cases. But Buzbee can unofficially inform Hardin that Buzbee will focus on other matters.

Still, four cases remain active. There’s no specific reason to believe that others won’t sue. In fact, news of the 20 settlements could provide the impetus for others to try to get what the 20 plaintiffs are receiving.




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Originally Posted by steve0255
Hmmm, let me get this straight. Big Ben gets accused of rape with no criminal charges or civil suits and settles but is still deemed a rapist on this forum multiple times.


The forum isn't a hivemind, some people spoke out against Ben and Deshuan, some people spoke out against Ben and supported Deshuan, some probably didn't speak out at all.

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The word "alleged" is missing from your post.

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This is a really good and concise explanation of how the ruling on Watson will evolve from here.



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Well, he sure proved his innocence. If y'all want to be giddy go ahead. This is great for him potentially moving forward with his life, but it damn sure doesn't exonerate what he may or may not have done. As a matter of fact, IMO, it makes him look guilty after just publically stating all he wanted to do was clear his name. Settling damn sure didn't do that. I love this team, but to hell with Deshaen Watson.


I doubt we'll ever know if Watson's "I just want to clear my name" was bluster or not. Regardless (and IMO), the settlement came down to a cold emotionless business decision. Maybe Watson was sincere, but he was probably going to end up dying on that hill, regardless of the truth.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
The word "alleged" is missing from your post.

That doesn't change his point one iota.

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Hmmm, let me get this straight. Big Ben gets accused of rape with no criminal charges or civil suits and settles but is still deemed a rapist on this forum multiple times.

Witnesses saw rapistberger escort a drunken girl into the bar bathroom and had his bodyguards standing guard and not letting her friends check on her....and then the victim later dropped the charges.

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Bill Cosby just lost a civil suit where it took a woman 50 years to come out with her claims of improper sexual advances but any woman that comes out now with a claim against Watson is late to the game and should be discounted.

The only reason the woman in the Cosby case was allowed to proceed was that she was a minor at the time of the assault

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Hunt receives an 8-game suspension for one incident against 1 woman and yet 24 claims against Watson with more coming should receive the same consideration because the ladies had a single lawyer even though his actions occurred against multiple women over a 12-14 month period.

Hunt threw a woman to the ground and kicked her, and there was video evidence.



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I have no idea what the NFL is going to do but settling 20 of these cases didn't clear Watson's name and with 4 still open and 2 predicted to come, he still should be facing a minimum of a year suspension.
Says who and based on what?

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If the NFL goes light on Watson it will be a slap in the face to every women in America and set a precedent of it doesn't matter what NFL players do.
That's a real stretch.

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Not to mention the fact that there were 66 women involved according to the NYTimes. How many women does it take to come out before the NFL and some on this forum to understand that this player has a serious issue with the treatment of women.
With more than half of those involved in any sexual behavior saying it was consensual.
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[quote] Does it have to get to 30, maybe 40 or is the line in the sand 50? Hell, if I was Hunt I'd be livid that people think Watson should get less suspension time that what Hunt received. Yep, that's fair and balanced.
You can't compare this case to Hunt.

I think there was creepy stuff going on with DW, and he's going to get suspended......there's no need to pile on with these inaccurate analogies.

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What jumps out from that report:

Trotter - Browns FO was expecting 4-6 game suspension at time of trade. Now 8-10-12 or whole season is expected.

Seemed the opinion offered was a minimum of 10 games would be 'right' and they would feel fine if it was the season - that was Keyshon J. No-one challenged or disagreed.

The open cases are a problem. And I agree with the implication that if 25 of 26 settle - and if 1 goes to trial and wins a civil case - the 1 case would "speak for" the other 15.

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Just like the non indictments didn't declare him innocent...the Settlements do not declare him guilty...Everyone is entitled to their opinion...but I don't feel it is fair to label the guy as a predator (nor an angel) without the facts. I have stated many times before that these cases were going to get settled as over 97 precent of Civil cases are settled. That is because the strategy of the all plaintiff lawyers is to drag things out and make it more costly to fight than to settle...or if high profile...to fight in the arena of public opinion instead of the courtroom to place more pressure on the defendant.

So don't take the settlements as proof he is guilty. Just like the indictments...they are part of the story...they both have some relevance...but neither is proof of guilt or innocence...

All this has done is ease some of the legal issues facing Watson as they are done with...And as the terms are confidential...we will never have the "facts"...again...you are welcome to your opinions...but I feel it unfair to be judgmental based on this event...

He has 4 to go and I can see these having a better chance of going to trial...perhaps before August 22 when the moratorium begins. Are the Texans going to be drawn onto this? Does Watson have a better chance of winning or losing if it comes to trial? Interesting questions from an outside observance...

The NFL decision is going to be extremely interesting...Paid or not, he sat out last year entirely...I don't know if that will have any influence. The NFLPA attacking the double standard...will be very interesting to watch. Because this very well could come into a legal arena and the NFL would be forced to open up their investigation findings not only for Watson but for Jones, Snyder, Kraft, etc. Something the NFL does not want to do. While the NFLPA does want to protect Watson...obligated or otherwise...I do believe they are using this case as the springboard concerning the Double standard and punishment process of the Conduct policy.

The biggest loser in this will probably be the NFL. They can't win in any scenario. Judge harshly and they are going to be in court opening up files they don't want to open...Judge lighter, they will lose the public PR Battle as Buzbee has successfully tried this case in the court of public opinion. He may be a scumbag(Buzbee)...but he does know what he is doing...and he is good at it. There really is no balancing point for the NFL's decision.


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The biggest loser in this will probably be the NFL. They can't win in any scenario. Judge harshly and they are going to be in court opening up files they don't want to open...Judge lighter, they will lose the public PR Battle as Buzbee has successfully tried this case in the court of public opinion. He may be a scumbag(Buzbee)...but he does know what he is doing...and he is good at it. There really is no balancing point for the NFL's decision.

I have been thinking about that and I agree w/you.

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It's a lose/lose for the NFL, they should just rip the band-aid off and let it fade into our memories as other stories eventually top the news cycles. The longer they let this fester, the longer it stays in the spotlight.


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Originally Posted by FloridaFan
It's a lose/lose for the NFL, they should just rip the band-aid off and let it fade into our memories as other stories eventually top the news cycles. The longer they let this fester, the longer it stays in the spotlight.

My guess is that the NFL wants exactly that (as do most Browns fans)...but when does the flowing spigot of 'new' lawsuits stop?

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This is why I don't talk to you. I did not claim any such thing. Your lies are old. I said that Pluto's article was more objective than Florio's.

You certainly didn't make that clear. I was following the order of the posts. If that was your intent and I misunderstood, that's my mistake.


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Houston most likely wanted to be rid of him because it had become obvious that he was a sexual predator and they did not want that to be associated with their brand. This obviously created a rift. They played their cards right and took Cleveland for everything they had.

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Houston most likely wanted to be rid of him because it had become obvious that he was a sexual predator and they did not want that to be associated with their brand. This obviously created a rift. They played their cards right and took Cleveland for everything they had.



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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I agree w/you, but there is a growing sentiment out there that says the NFL is on a slippery slope because they are NOT the legal system and are acting like a legal system. I'm telling you, they could be in for a world of hurt if the NFLPA and Watson's legal team take this to the courts and this is tried "legally."

True, they are not the legal system. Neither is any other company or corporation that sets punitive guidelines for their employees under their employment. The NFLPA agreed to and signed a contract allowing punitive ramifications. Included within that policy....

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Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving: the use or
threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft
and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest;
disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering;
Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances
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Now I'm not saying it's right, but what the wording "sex offenses" means is very open to interpretation. It does not define it as criminal. So it's very open ended.

The question as to how the NFL handles this all boils down to one thing IMO. That is whether they would rather face the wrath of many NFL fans and the public in general, or whether they would rather face the NFLPA in court. They've shown thus far not to have a problem facing the NFLPA in court. I have no idea how they will handle it. But my guess is that they see a court battle with the NFLPA far less damaging to the league than taking on half of the nations population.


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Something that I may have missed yesterday was the mention of Watson agreeing to seek counseling. I highlighted in red from the Cleveland.com story below, those parts addressing the issue of counseling and therapy.

JMO, but if Watson is going to get his life back on track counseling and therapy would be a good place to start.





Deshaun Watson, in settling and getting counseling, is showing the NFL he’s willing to do the work: Browns Takeaways


Updated: Jun. 21, 2022, 10:46 p.m. | Published: Jun. 21, 2022, 8:30 p.m.
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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Over the past two weeks, Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson has shown the NFL he’s willing to do the work to move forward from the his off-the-field issues and resume his NFL career.

If the league sees enough effort and willingness from Watson, it could be a mitigating factor in his discipline, which could be handed down in the next week or two. According to the collectively bargained Personal Conduct Policy, the NFL will take into account a player’s actions in the aftermath of the alleged wrongdoing.

“In determining discipline, both aggravating and mitigating factors may be considered,’’ the policy reads. “Reference also may be made to requirements to seek ongoing counseling, treatment, or therapy where appropriate as well as the imposition of enhanced supervision, which upon satisfactory compliance would serve to mitigate the discipline otherwise imposed.’’

Last week, Watson acknowledged for the first time that he’s seeking counseling in the wake of more than 24 female massage therapists accusing him of sexual misconduct during appointments mostly in 2020 and 2021.


On Tuesday, he reached confidential settlements in 20 of the 24 civil suits against him, and is prepared to try to clear his name in the other four cases if it comes to that.

“It’s been a long year and half, I can say that,’’ Watson said last week during mandatory minicamp. “Personally, it’s been tough. And since I came here and since I became a Cleveland Brown, I’ve been able to use all the resources that this organization has. Been able to start using counseling and talking with someone just to make sure that my mental is straight and so I can be prepared to walk on this field and be as sharp as I possibly can.

“And I’m going to continue to do that, be the best person and grow as an individual, grow as a human being, and just be able to be the best citizen, best person that I can be outside this field, and also when I walk out of this building, be the best teammate and player that I can be.’’


The settlements came a week after Watson repeated that he didn’t want to do it.

“I just want to clear my name and be able to let the facts and the legal procedures continue to play out,’’ he said last week.

Ultimately, he decided it was the best way to begin to move ahead.

The decision to seek counseling was also a departure from his introductory press conference March 25, in which he said he didn’t need it because he didn’t do anything wrong. Whether he believes he’s innocent or not, Watson should benefit from therapy, and it could have an impact on the NFL’s decision.

In the wake of the 20 settlements announced Tuesday by plaintiffs attorney Tony Buzbee, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement, “Today’s development has no impact on the collectively bargained disciplinary process.’’

But if the NFL sees that Watson is taking one more step to move forward and to make restitution even though he was determined to clear his name, perhaps it will be viewed favorably.

At the very least, Watson is getting help, and if his accusers need help in dealing with the aftermath of their encounters with him, they now have the resources to get it as well. And now, neither Watson nor 20 of his accusers will have to wait years for a resolution.

What’s next

The next big step in the process is for former U.S. District Judge Sue L. Robinson, the disciplinary officer jointly appointed by the NFL and NFLPA, to determine the length of Watson’s suspension. A league source has confirmed for cleveland.com that the NFL Players Association is bracing for an “unprecedented” punishment, which could mean a year-long suspension, and it seems like a foregone conclusion that the league will dock him a significant number of games.

But the NFLPA is gearing up for a fight, and will argue that the league didn’t come down hard on NFL owners Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder for alleged misconduct on the part of themselves or those in their organizations.

While the NFL could start by suspending him a year, the NFLPA plans to argue for no suspension based in part on the fact there’s no evidence that Watson engaged in wrongdoing and that two separate grand juries declined to indict him on criminal charges.

But just like the non-indictments didn’t mean he was innocent, the settlements aren’t an admission of guilt. Watson maintains he’s done nothing wrong, but felt it was time to put the bulk of the cases behind him so it was less of a distraction to the Browns, their fans, and their players.

Again, if Watson does have to face four trials, he’ll view it as a chance to have his say in court and clear his name.
Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin, told cleveland.com the NFL had completed its interviews with Watson, even though a 24th suit was subsequently filed and new accusers spoke for the first time to Jenny Vrentas of The New York Times.

Typically, when the NFL talks to the accused, the discipline is not far behind. Some expect it to come next week, but it could be as early as this week. Friel then makes a recommendation to Robinson, who can ask for a hearing or for more information before making a determination.

According to the policy, “depending on the nature of the violation and the player’s record, discipline may be a fine, a suspension for a fixed or an indefinite period of time, a combination of the two, or banishment from the league with an opportunity to reapply. Discipline may also include a probationary period and conditions that must be met for reinstatement and to remain eligible to participate.’’

If Watson’s camp disagrees with the ruling, they’ll appeal to Goodell, whose word will be final.

How much did he settle for?

The agreements were confidential, but a note in the 23rd civil suit states “we know that Deshaun Watson offered each plaintiff $100,000 to settle their cases, but not all would accept that amount, due to the aggressive non-disclosure agreement that Watson’s team proposed.’’

Hardin probably insisted on non-disclosure agreements again, and the amount of the settlements could vary.

The other plaintiffs -- one of which is Ashley Solis, the first one to come forward and one of two to be interviewed by Soledad O’Brien for HBO’s “Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel” -- are holding out for more money or are determined to go to trial.

It’s not yet known if Buzbee still plans to file the other two civil suits he said he intended to file, or if he’ll still add the Texans as a defendant.




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You don't see many 'innocent guys' getting counseling and therapy as part of the settlement, do you? I'm glad he's going to get help with his addiction, but there it is. smh.


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Am I the only one who finds the timing of the settlements curious? Once a team, and owner, got dragged into this most of the cases got settled. It is almost as if the league pushed Watson's camp to settle to avoid a trial where one of the league's owners was likely to not come out of it well.

Yes, this is conspiracy thinking. It's been a rough couple of weeks and I probably should have stayed away from the board a little while longer.


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Reference also may be made to requirements to seek ongoing counseling, treatment, or therapy...


Isn't that what got him into this issue? rolleyesdevil

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You don't see many 'innocent guys' getting counseling and therapy as part of the settlement, do you? I'm glad he's going to get help with his addiction, but there it is. smh.

Sure you do. Business and government agencies have had many people take sensitivity training as standard procedure.


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I haven't seen anything in reference to this that would indicate it addresses any part of these allegations or anything to do with addressing anything of a sexual nature. I also haven't seen anything that ties his counseling to any part of a settlement. From his description it seems he's trying to indicate that it's more about the stress he's been under during the increased focus on these cases.

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“It’s been a long year and half, I can say that,’’ Watson said last week during mandatory minicamp. “Personally, it’s been tough. And since I came here and since I became a Cleveland Brown, I’ve been able to use all the resources that this organization has. Been able to start using counseling and talking with someone just to make sure that my mental is straight and so I can be prepared to walk on this field and be as sharp as I possibly can.

“And I’m going to continue to do that, be the best person and grow as an individual, grow as a human being, and just be able to be the best citizen, best person that I can be outside this field, and also when I walk out of this building, be the best teammate and player that I can be.’’


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You don't see many 'innocent guys' getting counseling and therapy as part of the settlement, do you? I'm glad he's going to get help with his addiction, but there it is. smh.

Sure you do. Business and government agencies have had many people take sensitivity training as standard procedure.

Not only that, but he remained deliberately vague (still pending cases). The only real specific he gave was about being ready to perform on the field.


Also, at the risk of angering some Board (or bored) Police folks, getting counseling for a sex issue (assumed this is what the counseling is for) doesn't necessarily mean he committed assault. He has a problem (so seeking treatment would be a positive), and it's still my belief that he fed an addiction by engaging masseuses as prostitutes (which I'm assuming is what one might do to not get caught up in TX prostitution laws), and at some point may or may not have slipped up or gone way too far.

The probability of both being true (him having a sex addiction/issue and him being innocent on the grounds of all incidents being consensual) is admittedly low, but still a possibility.


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And from actually reading his statement, to take from that it has anything to do with sexual issues would take a huge leap of one's imagination.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You don't see many 'innocent guys' getting counseling and therapy as part of the settlement, do you? I'm glad he's going to get help with his addiction, but there it is. smh.

Sure you do. Business and government agencies have had many people take sensitivity training as standard procedure.
He has also admitted to having some sexual relations with several of the massage therapists but claims it was consensual.. so obviously he can feel like he needs to get his sexual urges under control...

Tiger Woods never did anything illegal and really only destroyed his own personal life (for a while) and he got therapy for his sexual proclivities...


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And from actually reading his statement, to take from that it has anything to do with sexual issues would take a huge leap of one's imagination.

Meh - honestly, I have not felt much sincerity when DW has talked. It has not felt natural either - and that might be over coaching or something from the legal team. idk ... it might be harsh to judge someone under such intense scrutiny. But I never got the warm and fuzzies about anything he said. To me this counseling/therapy comment smacks of someone advising him that he needs to say this. Again - idk, just gut feel from my perspective.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
You don't see many 'innocent guys' getting counseling and therapy as part of the settlement, do you? I'm glad he's going to get help with his addiction, but there it is. smh.

ocd...I never believed the claim that Watson was simply trying to clear his name and was willing to fight all the cases in a court of law just to prove that he was innocent. The news came out that Watson had attempted to settle most of the civil suits a year ago for $100K each, but the deal fell apart due to language in the proposed NDA.

JMO, but some of Watson's first comments to the Cleveland press gave the impression that Watson was an arrogant ass trying to sell the Browns fans his claim that he did nothing wrong. I always felt that Watson and his lawyers should have went to work to end the 'I did nothing wrong' charade and would have been better off to admit that he needed to look at himself and do what was needed to make some changes in his life.

After the drip, drip, drip started it became much harder for Browns fans to believe the claims that Watson was attempting to sell. Watson and his team of lawyers had terrible June with additional lawsuits and Hardin running his mouth about 'happy endings'. The pressure built and finally someone got through to Watson and his team of lawyers that they needed to change course and start by settling the lawsuits and for Watson to address his own personal issues.

Had Watson, his lawyers and the Browns pushed this approach from the day Watson first addressed the Cleveland media, the entire case might have been viewed differently by the NFL in terms of punishment/suspension.

Watson and his law team took the wrong approach, imo and simply dug the hole deeper.

So now we wait to see if the late change in approach will benefit Watson and the Browns this season.





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Not rehab. :facepalm:
edit: look what rehab did to Tiger Woods' golf game, he couldn't even drive>>> a car.

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