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It may have been a reference to trump saying "his generals" should have been like the German generals in WWII.

Of course trump doesn't know history because Hitler's generals plotted to kill him numerous times.

But who cares about details?

All that is on trump's hands is the people who died believing in trump and his lies about covid and how it would just go away when it got warm.

All those that followed his lead about wearing masks and using his voodoo cures for covid. How easy to forget all the covid deaths that could have been prevented from a competent president.

just to remind everyone: the current FBI director was appointed by trump.

As someone else posted earlier... I hope that the FBI actually has something substantial... this is pretty unprecedented... I hope it's more than just a witch hunt or political stunt... seems like that's some substance there, but haven't read enough to know...

will this finally make the conservatives start the civil war like they keep threatening? or are we still LARPing

j/c

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-rele...ton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Good morning. I’m here to give you an update on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”

Somehow Clinton is not in jail...

On Nov. 6, 2016: FBI Announces Review Complete, Nothing Criminal Found. Let's not pretend that Trump is going to jail either. Unless all of the politicians are going with him.

uh. he told everyone to go get the vaccine and it was in production before he left office




https://www.voanews.com/a/covid-19-...rus-vaccine-medical-miracle/6199495.html

Trump Hails Approved Coronavirus Vaccine as ‘Medical Miracle’

U.S. President Donald Trump late Friday hailed what he termed “a medical miracle” – the immediate but extremely limited availability of a coronavirus vaccine less than a year after the first cases of COVID-19 were reported in the United States.

In a video message posted on Twitter, Trump said the first doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved for emergency use will be administered “within 24 hours” and will be “free [of charge] for all Americans.”

The president said the vaccine “will save millions of lives and soon end the pandemic once and for all.” The assertion contradicted health officials who note that it will be months before many Americans can be inoculated and that eradication of COVID-19 is far from assured.



https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...vaccine-74abcd4e6833835f5df445fe2142e22b
Trump reveals he got COVID-19 booster shot; crowd boos him


https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/06/health/covid-19-vaccine-uptake-trump-ads/index.html
Trump's endorsement of Covid-19 vaccines increased uptake in counties with low vaccination rates

yeah, well, facts don't matter. Just like Biden bragging about having covid yet staying at the whitehouse while trump had to be taken to a hospital. Oh, but wait: No vaccine available at that time.

But that doesn't matter. Bash the F out of trump, over and over and over and over.

That's what most of the posters that post on here in PP do. They aren't intelligent enough to discern jack squat. They just hate trump, and ignore biden. And pelosi. Weird how her husband got off for the drunk driving accident he caused. Weird how she has an affinity for china.

Oh, no one knows about that? Eh, media. If it ain't trump, it doesn't air.

GOPer tears all over the interwebs. Delicious.

I think it’s so funny how you guys think conservatives are the ones manipulated.

How exactly do you guys not see the stronghold democrats have on information?

How do you not see stories like Hunter Biden’s laptop just disappear and get swept under the rug?(not changing subject just giving an example)

Democrats control 99% of the main stream media on your tv.

Google is ran by a bunch of liberal hacks.

Facebook and Twitter, ran by liberal hacks.

Academia, ran by liberal hack professors.

Democrats literally have a monopoly on information available to us and if something gets out that they don’t approve of or don’t want you guys to see, they simply censor it.

Are you guys that manipulated that you don’t see or comprehend this?

Back to the IRS increase.

Although we may not like it, errors are “made” or “liberties taken” with taxes.

A auditor will pay for his salary many times over if hired.

An unfortunate truth, and exactly the reason Trump “defunded” the IRS.

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It really is time for you to find some other place to try to settle down.
We've seen your type here, many times before. They have come in waves. And they have always left in droves.

Here is something you have failed to comprehend: the people who congregate at this web address don't come for the politics. They come for the Browns. We are a community. And we know a Browns fan when we see one. We also can smell an outsider when he infiltrates, from the aroma of freshly-stirred s# that surrounds him.

Take your lame, tired, hackneyed tripe to a website that hasn't already seen a million vacuous trolls like you.
Your game is lame. And we're better than you.

Go away. Your tie is wasted here.

I haven't drawn conclusions. Much can still transpire to formulate that. Supposition? Sure. That is based on things that have happened before. Now it is a day later and I find it strange, given the magnitude of the last 24 hours that the White House is totally tight lipped except to say they knew nothing. I see that as possible before hand but I am sure someone talked to the DOJ, who will have no comment for obvious reasons.

Clem, lmao:

MAGA World Wants ‘War’ After FBI Raid On Trump’s Mar-A-Lago

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-world-wants-war-fbi-202614511.html


After news broke Monday evening that the FBI had raided Mar-a-Lago, the Florida home of former President Donald Trump, right-wing influencer Steven Crowder delivered an alarming message to his nearly 2 million followers on Twitter: “Sleep well. Tomorrow is war.”

The next day, during his show on YouTube, where he has nearly 6 million subscribers, Crowder called for ​​the “defunding” and “dismantling” of “our intelligence agencies” and the FBI over the raid on Trump’s seaside mansion. He also called for a purge, imploring the GOP to get revenge.

“The next president of the United States needs to prosecute everyone,” he said. “Needs to clean house everywhere.”

“If a Republican gets in, investigate everybody, raid everybody,” he added. “Use all of it. I don’t care if we become Nicaragua at this point.”

Crowder’s inflammatory rhetoric was standard right-wing messaging across America on Tuesday. GOP lawmakers and MAGA influencers clamored to show their fealty to the former president after federal agents searched his home for classified information he may have taken home after leaving the White House, according to a New York Times report.

“Are you ready,” far-right influencer and “Pizzagate” conspiracist Jack Posobiec wrote in a series of hyperventilating tweets to his nearly 2 million followers on Twitter. “The federal security state has declared war on Donald J Trump and his supporters.”

“Lead, follow, or get out of the way,” he wrote. “Leviathan has awoken…Welcome to the end game.”

Jack Posobiec is seen on set of "Candace" on March 15 in Nashville, Tennessee. (Photo: Jason Davis via Getty Images)

Monica Crowley, a former Trump administration official and Fox News personality who now hosts her own radio show, suggested it might be time for people to lay their lives on the line. “This is it,” she tweeted. “This is the hill to die on.”

Others invoked ancient Rome. “The Rubicon has been crossed,” tweeted far-right YouTuber Tim Pool. Conservative radio host Jesse Kelly posted a quote from Roman general Pompey Magnus: “Do not quote laws to men with swords.”

The New York Young Republicans issued a statement calling for the “total disintegration of the FBI” and for mass arrests.

Everyone involved in the “persecution” of Trump should be detained, the group stated, and habeas corpus — a basic right allowing defendants to protest their detention to a judge — should be “suspended in order to secure our Republic from insidious monsters that have wrenched it from the American People’s control.”

And Jon Miller, a former host with the right-wing outlet Blaze TV, was even more blunt.

“Either we destroy our political enemies ruthlessly and mercilessly or they destroy us,” he wrote on Gab for his 45,000 followers. “It’s that simple.”

These right-wing invocations of violence and “civil war” could have deadly consequences, warned Michael Hayden, spokesperson for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization.

“Hard right and white supremacist social influencers have pushed civil war rhetoric repeatedly since Trump’s rise,” Hayden told HuffPost. “Whenever something happens to threaten their movement, they push it again, stoking outrage for profit. Although these calls for violence are unlikely to mobilize a large group without a unifying event like Unite the Right or Trump’s speech on January 6, they can certainly inspire horrific acts of violence, like we have seen in places like Pittsburgh, El Paso, and Buffalo.”

The rhetoric is especially worrisome when it comes from candidates for public office and sitting lawmakers, like far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.).

“This is the rogue behavior of communist countries, NOT the United States of America!!!,” Greene tweeted. “These are the type of things that happen in countries during civil war.”

Kari Lake, the GOP nominee for governor of Arizona who earned an endorsement from Trump in the primary, said the raid was “one of the darkest days in American history,” and warned her followers that “not a single one of us is safe.”

And Laura Loomer, a far-right activist currently running for Congress in Florida, wrote to her followers on Telegram that it was “time to take the gloves off.”

“If you’re a freedom-loving American, you must remove the words decorum and civility from your vocabulary,” Loomer wrote. “This is a WAR! And it’s time to obliterate these communists.”

In Pennsylvania, state Rep. Rob Kauffman shared — and then deleted — a Facebook post from an account called The Federalist Papers that stated: “Sadly, the USA as envisioned by our founders is officially dead and we have now become a police state. Biden, the DOJ, and FBI crossed a line and now politics as usual must be dead as well.”

In the online MAGA fever swamps, the language was similar, if a little more direct.

On Patriots.win, the extreme pro-Trump message board, the top comment on Tuesday implored the former president’s supporters to take up arms.

“Lock and load,” it said.

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i swore an oath to defend this country against enemies both foreign AND domestic. go ahead conservatives, give me a reason to fulfil the domestic part. most of you conservatives with guns only shot at paper targets. i didn't...

You are kidding right?

Go to the covid timeline. He lied. He continued to lie. He said he lied to not cause a panic. He said that.

He said he thought real leaders should not wear masks. He said the virus would go away when it got warm.

The timeline of covid and his response is the definition of failure of the oath of office. His claims about what "he" did were after the facts of covid were know to the public.

Selective memory.

It is very easy research to track the covid timeline and trumps response. He cost thousands of lives. Read about the victims and their families and what they said about following trumps lead.

From when it was found out and what he said and knew to be the truth. Hydroxychloroquine? Is all of lies so easily forgotten.

Take it upon yourself to do the research and find the facts.

Saw this infographic today, which I think is informative about the scale of the problem:

i dont get these dudes making comments like "well if they can do this to a former president, they can do it to you"

umm...isn't that a good thing? no one is above the law? we talk all time about how the elites never get held accountable. well now one is being held accountable, and conservative america hates it?

Trump is actually being treated like any other american, yet somehow that's a problem. i don't get it.

Trumpian GOPers are like star trek's borg drones, they have an inept hive mind. They can be reprogrammed on the fly. Attempts to deprogram them are futile.

actually, I'm quoting articles that were published when/where he spoke. not, opinions, selective memory, or opinion pieces.

Every president downplays everything... If they didn't it would be pure pandemonium and anarchy.


If anything, these people were following the news media's lead and a bunch of people fear-mongering. Not so much what Trump Trump said or did.

He got the shot. He got the booster. He wanted to be able to say he to get it into production before Biden got into office and out in some capacity to the public.



again......


www.cnbc.com/2021/12/20/trump-says-he-got-covid-booster-shot-tells-fans-not-to-boo-him.html

Former President Donald Trump says he received a booster vaccine shot for Covid-19 — but he doesn’t want to hear any criticism about it.

“Oh, don’t, don’t, don’t!” said Trump, waving his hand dismissively, as some people in an audience in Dallas on Sunday afternoon seemed to react negatively to the Republican saying he got the booster.


When some in the Dallas crowd started hooting about that, Trump told them to stop. He then claimed that the negative noise only came “from a very tiny group over there,” as he pointed to his left.


Trump also said during the same show, “We saved tens of millions worldwide by creating the vaccine.”

“It would have been like the Spanish flu without it. … We should take credit for it, and you play right into their hands” when you question the vaccine’s value, he added.



as far as hydro goes

www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-daily-roundup-march-30-2020


On March 28, 2020, the FDA issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to allow hydroxychloroquine sulfate and chloroquine phosphate products donated to the Strategic National Stockpile(SNS) to be distributed and used for certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19. These drugs will be distributed from the SNS to states for doctors to prescribe to adolescent and adult patients hospitalized with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.



So, was it Trump or the FDA who approved it for emergency use?



we are so off point from the original topic.

this is a very good thing as long as it's not politically motivated from any side.

You truly are a radical liberal, this is exactly how they act. Run their mouth non stop and can’t stand to even hear another point of view. So then they gang up name call and act like a child because they don’t have a simple answer for the other persons point of view. I truly hope you guys are in your 20s because if you are a grown men and still believe the liberal BS than you are pathetic.

Oh, we have an answer, you just don't like it. You are brainwashed.

And guess what I’m not going anywhere because this isn’t a a radical liberal Nazi forum. This is exactly what the main stream media does anytime someone comes in with the truth or an opinion that differs from theirs they try to talk over them and shoot it down before they can even get the words out of her mouth. Pathetic children.

No... it's a Cleveland Browns forum. Probably even more extreme.

To Clem's point, every once in a while there comes along a "new" poster with a very familiar posting style. Each time, it takes about a week or two of arguing with just about everyone and that person is no longer posting. You came along at about the usual time to restart that cycle, so the assumption is that we have the same situation here. We're just trying to speed up this part of the cycle.

j/c

I believe people need to think this through rather than just act emotionally without having any clarity. Let's recap shall we?

A former president takes home 15 boxes of classified documents. Some of them said to be top secret. The FBI has been trying to get him to hand them over since January that we know about. He still refused to hand them over and had lawyers fighting against handing them over. Since he refused to hand them over, Christopher Wray, a Trump appointee who is neither a Democrat nor a liberal, nor anti Trump runs the FBI. The FBI took their findings and request for a warrant to the DOJ. The DOJ could find no legitimate reason to stop them from taking the warrant request to a judge. When a judge looked at the warrant request he or she saw sufficient evidence to grant and sign the warrant

It was the FBI who is ran by Trump's own hand picked appointee that made a request for a warrant. Not some liberal cabal. Many have been programmed and feel some sense of faux outrage because you can't seem to grasp this and are being played yet once again.

Oh and BTW. This whole "third world country" "banana Republic" BS? Those spouting such nonsense seem to think if you follow the rule of law that somehow makes you these things. That there should be no accountability of leaders and former leaders. Such accountability is exactly what makes us none of those things. What they want you to forget and fail to remind you of is that while the US has never criminally charged a former president other democracies across the world — including close US allies like South Korea, France, and Israel — have prosecuted, convicted, and even jailed former leaders. Netanyahu of Israel is currently undergoing an investigation and criminal charges.

Two of France former presidents were found guilty of corruption and one of them was sentenced to jail although he is appealing. These nations are our close allies and not third world countries or banana republics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/us/politics/trump-classified-records-timeline.html

Not to take away from your point, but there's a little wrinkle in the timeline (start reading the above link at Jan 2022).

National Archives DID receive those 15 boxes back earlier this year after a bunch of legal wrangling. When they got them back, they found that they contained a bunch of classified information (something Trump was never supposed to have taken in the first place), and possibly more should have been turned over (I'm assuming Trump either retained or destroyed those parts). Then they went in (but apparently after a whole bunch of activity behind the scenes which included the Justice Dept, a grand jury, etc).


Doesn't really change what you're saying at all, but I know I was confused earlier about the actually status of those 15 boxes at the time of the raid.

If only we all had a source for your singular and unquestionable truth!!!!!

Him getting vaccinated has nothing to do with I am saying. It is about his actions before the vaccine.

Panic?

If the weather news knows where a hurricane's path is headed. Should they keep a secret it so nobody panics.

Please.

Look at the timeline of his actions from when it was discovered till the vaccine.

There is no defense.

Cry a little harder, you sad little victim.

You came here looking for a fight. Now that you have one on your hands, you can't handle the pushback. And you aren't being ganged up upon... you are being debated by individual folks who disagree with your take. Your take is stupid and unpopular with thinking, rational people. And that's not our problem to solve.

Expect this kind of pushback for as long as you troll this web address. It will never stop. But you will. Your kind always does. Schoolyard bullies who get punched out in public always run and hide. You'll be gone soon enough. Until then, your life at Dawgtalkers will be a hell of your own making.

We don't like you.
Go someplace where you are welcome. If I were you, I'd first look under a bridge.


pffft.

Part of that is those returns are professionally done. That doesn't mean people might not try to shield some income, but there usually aren't mistakes in the return

Also, how many IRS agents are there? My other question is what type of agents are being hired? Are they auditors, or special agents who carry guns? We have all seen the reports that the IRS has bought thousands of weapons and stockpiles 5 million rounds of ammo. I mean, if the function of the IRS is to audit returns, why do that even need that? Why can't other agencies of the IRS be in the gun toting business?

I still maintain 85,000 is an excessive number. I'd rather see more border agents hired.

So?

If you think showing up at a former Presidents home with guns in hand is the way to do this, I can't help you.

This is 2 bit nation crap.

You're stopping short of the real point to be made here. This has never been done before, and stuff coming out now sounds like it has been in the works for a while (since at least January). Biden didn't emerge from his fog of dementia and say "you know who I haven't heard from lately? That Trump fella... we should give him the 'Cornpop treatment'".

The guy who lives there is the banana republic wanna be.

He wants "his generals" to act like the German WWII generals.

He is the one who praises Putin. That is because he wants that kind of power.

They should have just taken him to a cell block

Not really. Trump is well known for destroying classified documents in the WH, and at Mar-a-Maga and the FBI director knows it. Bad week for the party of law and order right?

He proposes that a subpoena should have been used first. You know, that thing trump always fights against and eventually loses in court. That trump should have been allowed to hang onto these documents that he illegally possessed for God knows how long while he screamed and threw a tantrum about. Even after he's been fighting turning them over since January that we know of. In the end, if he had been issued a subpoena they would have been screaming the same thing.

Most of these beta male Trumpians last less than a month in here. This guy might last two weeks before he sulks all the way home.

thats funny

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Violent rhetoric circulates on the pro-Trump internet following FBI search, including from a Jan. 6 rioter

“Lock and load,” was one of the top comments on an online forum dedicated to former President Donald Trump on Monday night, soon after it emerged his Florida Mar-a-Lago resort had been searched by the FBI.

Other posts were more explicit, “I’m just going to say it. [Attorney General Merrick] Garland needs to be assassinated. Simple as that.” Another user posted, “kill all feds.”

Users also encouraged others to post the address of the judge they believe signed off on the search warrant. “I see a rope around his neck,” a comment under a picture of the judge read.

On the same forum, researchers previously found talk of violence and discussion on how to attack police officers in the weeks leading up to the January 6, 2021, attack.

Amid the users on the forum Monday night was a convicted US Capitol rioter.

One reply to the top-rated “lock and load” post came from an account with the username bananaguard62 and asked “Are we not in a cold civil war at this point?”

By combing through bananaguard62’s posts, Advance Democracy, a non-partisan, non-profit organization that conducts public-interest investigations, identified Tyler Welsh Slaeker as running the account.

Slaeker was charged by the Justice Department last summer in connection with the January 6 attack. Slaeker’s in-laws tipped off the FBI about his presence at the Capitol, according to court filings, making him one of the many January 6 rioters who were turned in by family members.

He was initially charged with four nonviolent misdemeanors, and pleaded guilty in June to one count of entering a restricted building. His sentencing is scheduled for November.

NBC News was first to report Advance Democracy’s findings on Slaeker. His attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It can be difficult to distinguish between empty and serious threats of violence online, but it cannot be ignored, said Daniel J. Jones, a former US Senate investigator who led the investigation into the CIA’s use of torture and now runs Advance Democracy, a non-partisan, non-profit organization that conducts public-interest investigations.

“We are seeing conspiratorial rhetoric from elected officials, political leaders, and political entertainers that is fueling calls for real-world violence,” Jones said. “The conspiratorial and divisive rhetoric – from elected officials and others who should know better – is continuing to undermine our institutions and democracy at an alarming rate.”

A congressional security official told CNN shortly after news of the search warrant broke Monday night, US Capitol Police began discussions about monitoring and planning for potential violent rhetoric.

Of particular concern is the possibility violence could be directed at members of Congress or other federal law enforcement, the security official said.

The Capitol Police declined to comment on security plans.

One post CNN found called for violence against FBI agents. The FBI declined to comment on the post or wider security concerns due to violent rhetoric.

After the January 6 attack, alternative social media platforms became more popular among Trump supporters after companies like Facebook and Twitter banned Trump and some other prominent figures who spread election conspiracy theories.

Those platforms, like Trump’s own Truth Social site, tout themselves as bastions of free speech, with looser rules and moderation. But that can result in the proliferation of violent rhetoric. CNN reported in June how threats against members of the January 6 House select committee circulated on those platforms.

But talk of violence isn’t exclusive to the more fringe platforms.

There was a surge in tweets Monday mentioning “civil war” – at some points more than one tweet a second, according to a CNN review of data from Dataminr, a service that tracks Twitter activity. While some mentions of “civil war” came from Trump critics expressing fear what his supporters might do – one researcher posted multiple screenshots of Twitter accounts outright calling for civil war.

Jones, whose group Advance Democracy has been tracking online threats since the FBI raid on Monday, said political leaders posting on their main social media accounts are stoking more violent rhetoric.

“The attack on the Capitol on January 6th showed that we can’t ignore calls for political violence online – no matter how fringe the theories are behind those calls for violence,” Jones said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/violent-rhetoric-pro-trump-internet-fbi-search/index.html

Their CPAC stage headline says it all, in a rare truth from the right.