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This was baffling to me.

I think Rhule might have bought into Baker and wanted ro show him off, especially against his old team.

Every time CMC touched the ball he was electric, and he barely touched the ball.

It's stuff like this why Rhule might be looking for a job by the end of the season.

The blown coverage in the first half to the TE also lead to a TD right before the half. Take that one and the one to Anderson away and the Panthers might not have scored a TD at all.

It's frustrating and maddening because the only way this team is going to be good this year is if the defense is dominating.

I'm a little miffed with Myles on the Anderson TD. I feel like he was taking the play off. He chose to rush into three defenders into the interior of the line instead of rushing around the tackle and keeping Baker in the pocket i.e., choose to get stonewalled instead of being explosive around the edge. Baker moved to the area vacated by Myles and threw the TD. I feel like Myles was just going through the motions on that play likely because he was tired. I've never seen a more supreme physical specimen suck wind at the rate he does. I know he has asthma and all, but he's usually sucking wind after the first play of the game.

This was baffling to me.

I think Rhule might have bought into Baker and wanted ro show him off, especially against his old team.

Every time CMC touched the ball he was electric, and he barely touched the ball.

This has always been my issue with Myles, dude should dominate 4 quarters consistently but theres alot of times he seems content to just go through the motions, almost as if he's bored..

They were trailing pretty much all game.

The blown coverage in the first half to the TE also lead to a TD right before the half. Take that one and the one to Anderson away and the Panthers might not have scored a TD at all.

" on 25 of the runs, they averaged 2.4 yards per carry."

- Butch Davis on Jamal Lewis' 295 yard, 30 carry day against the Browns on 15 Sept 2003

j/c:

I really don't understand how Myles gets criticized. No one player gets a sack and/or pressure every play of the game. Carolina was lining up a TE over on his side and chipping him all game long. So, Myles was having to beat two guys or more most of the game. That opens things up for other guys.

j/c:

I really don't understand how Myles gets criticized. No one player gets a sack and/or pressure every play of the game. Carolina was lining up a TE over on his side and chipping him all game long. So, Myles was having to beat two guys or more most of the game. That opens things up for other guys.

I'll tell you why I am critical:

He is not good against the run and is way too willing to sell out for the pass rush;

He disappears late in games and late in the year;

He lines up offside like a rookie (not yesterday thankfully);

He gets "his" sack and coasts. Last year he had exactly (1) game with more than 1.5 sacks...(1) game and against the Bears...(5) games with (0) sacks...(3) straight (0) sack games in weeks 14, 15, & 16 during the playoff push;

His overall play is quite good...but not DPOY level that we are told every year. He gets held like crazy...he rarely makes a play to snuff out the other teams mojo or to get the D off the field.

JMO

Cowherd just called him the best defensive player in the league.

it’s between him, Watt, or Donald .. and i can’t argue against Cowherd there

it’s between him, Watt, or Donald .. and i can’t argue against Cowherd there

Those three plus Parsons. I'm not sure there is a close fifth.

Jeff Risdon
September 12, 2022 1:12 pm ET

Myles Garrett had himself quite a Sunday afternoon in Charlotte. The Browns defensive end was all over the stat sheet against the Panthers in Cleveland’s thrilling win:

Two sacks, four tackles, three TFLs, one forced fumble, one pass defender, six QB hurries of former teammate Baker Mayfield.


Garrett’s impact on the game was undeniable. The film grade reinforces just how awesome Garrett was against the Panthers. No. 95 registered the single highest overall game grade of any NFL player in Week 1 (pending Monday Night Football) from Pro Football Focus.

PFF graded Garrett with a 94.4 grade for the game. That tops veteran EDGE Jerry Hughes, who logged an impressive 93.6 game grade in his debut with the Houston Texans. Much of Garrett’s success came at the expense of the Panthers’ first-round rookie tackle, Ikem Ekwonu, who was on the hook for both of Garrett’s sacks. The overall grade would have been even higher if not for a charted missed tackle on Garrett.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/12/myles-garrett-earns-highest-pff-grade-week-1/

No context? No what ifs? No blaming someone or something else? No defending the team's best player? Just straight criticism.

Interesting.

Why I would rebut it when I agree with it?

The part that is interesting is that you aren't balanced in your praise and criticism of players. If you like.the player you skip the bad stuff.

I find it interesting how many people Baker gets on his side. Some dude named Conor Orr wrote an article for SI today completely absolving Baker for being Baker. I read it and thought to myself that Baker's ability to create and continously add members to the Baker Bros is impressive. It's beyond impressive actually.