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You expected anything different????????????????????????????????????

I only expected him to be so bad.


well, he exceeded your expectations:)


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Amari Cooper should have had 125+ rec yards and 1 or 2 TDs in the game if Brissett could have got him the ball.



Surely looks like he should have.

Thanks for posting that !

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Damn. Hope Amari's dad doesn't see that...


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Originally Posted by FATE
Damn. Hope Amari's dad doesn't see that...

I just assumed that's who posted it.


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"So Jim, I hear that Amari's parents are in the crowd today."

"Yes they are, that's his dad over there with the video camera."

"Ah, yes, what a nice looking couple."







"And I think that is Bill Belichick right behind him, giving him directors input, to film the bench area."


We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Amari Cooper should have had 125+ rec yards and 1 or 2 TDs in the game if Brissett could have got him the ball.


Honestly, I don't know what some people expect. This isn't Madden where the QB can sprint right and throw 50 yards across his body to the left corner of the end zone effectively. The throw where he had to get it over the underneath defender before the over the top defender got there at the right sideline wasn't an easy one, either. Also seems a bit strange to complain about a pass that he completed to someone else for a 1st down. It's also hard to tell if Cooper was running full speed on the deep ball where his defender fell or not. If so, he's slower than I thought. I think it's more a case of Cooper slowing down to give Brissett a window before the deep safety while Brissett expected him to go full speed. They need live game reps together. Chemistry takes time.


I'm not saying Brissett had a great game (he didn't), but extrapolating Cooper's potential yardage based on those plays seems questionable.


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AVP press conference.



Interesting to hear his comments on Njoku.

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I really like Van Pelt

It was interesting to hear his comments across the board.

Him speaking of Cooper makes me feel awful about saying he was a lazy bum

Maybe that's why Cooper has 4 PB's because he does things to help the team win

and for a fan like myself it's not obvious because he's not catching the ball

Van Pelt schooled me tonight ! smile

I shouldn't judge a player, because a coach who knows what he is doing is

way better then a beer drinking fan on a Sunday afternoon !

That be me ya know !

lol !

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You're a good soul, bro!

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Thanks Vers, I try to learn and I should never judge

I don't have the knowledge

That's why I come here to learn

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When guys like AVP talk it comes from a deep well of information.

They see things daily at the micro level. Then they study the film to back up everything. Each position coach then looks and they all collaborate.

PFF is a great tool but it is not everything. Game plans are made specifically around favorable match-ups. They change weekly.

It still takes eleven doing their job to make plays work.

I mentioned in another thread that putting Hunt and Chubb on the field together is all about putting your play makers on the field.

Get the ball in their hands. This offense with JB it is imperative to use the tool bag.
Some games certain guys will get the touches. Other games it may be different guys featured.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
... PFF is a greattool but it is not everything. Game plans are made specifically around favorable match-ups. They change weekly.

Plus game plans...teams you play that other teamss do not...strength of schedule...playing certain teams at certain times of the year...injuries on your team...injuries for the other team...game flow...weather...COVID...coaching and roster stability...PFF factors in none of that - not that any stat COULD. It's just another stat that can be used incorrectly or deceitfully just like any other stat.

Lastly, PFF is owned by Chris Collinsworth...who is possibly the WORST color analyst in NFL history...at least among those who are/were so "revered". I now turn off the sound when he talks as it's simply awful.

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Njoku has come a long way … props to him and the staff for his development. He’s earned his contract and praise.

I hope we keep using him in the pass game


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
I really like Van Pelt

It was interesting to hear his comments across the board.

Him speaking of Cooper makes me feel awful about saying he was a lazy bum

Maybe that's why Cooper has 4 PB's because he does things to help the team win

and for a fan like myself it's not obvious because he's not catching the ball

Van Pelt schooled me tonight ! smile

I shouldn't judge a player, because a coach who knows what he is doing is

way better then a beer drinking fan on a Sunday afternoon !

That be me ya know !

lol !


Not sure you should feel awful. You were doing what a significant majority of fans do. I am always amused by "experts" who claim "the QB missed an open receiver, or a DB blew a coverage or even a player blew a block. I don't know how that is so certain when you really don't know what a player's assignment would be for a specific play. I think you can tell from a coach's comments sometimes if they think player performed well or not.

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I'd like to see our 2 WR's on injured reserve come back and play to see if they can develop and help us. Jakeem Grant and Isaiah Weston. I know Grant is a little small possibly a slot WR, but Weston is 6' 4. He could help.

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Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
I'd like to see our 2 WR's on injured reserve come back and play to see if they can develop and help us. Jakeem Grant and Isaiah Weston. I know Grant is a little small possibly a slot WR, but Weston is 6' 4. He could help.


I agree about Grant. I thought he might be the PR answer we were looking for.

But, unless the coaching staff is completely inept and doesn't find that PR answer by the end of the season, I don't believe Grant will ever play a down as a Brown.

If he did somehow vie for a WR spot next year (especially after that injury), he'd have to break the top 5 on the depth chart and be a significant ST contributor.

That's not going to happen. Imo.

Weston, I don't know.

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Originally Posted by steve0255
Players I think will take a step forward or be a surprise contributor:

Bryant - He's going to completely outpace Njoku and be the TE focus point by week 7
York - IMHO, will solidify the position for years
Bell - if the Browns are going to any type of threat through the air, Bell will have to step up and be that "go to" guy
Newsome - his growth will continue to impress

Not pulling their weight:
Wills/Conklin - Wills will continue to be exposed at LT forcing the Browns to not exercise his 5th year option, Conklin: very suspect if he's healthy enough to play and could be an injury waiting to happen, IMO he'll miss multiple games
Njoku - one of the highest paid TE's in football will still be listed as having potential after year 6 - when will the Browns accept, he's a bust?
DT's - 2nd year in a row that the Browns field the lowest rated PFF DT's in the league - with OT issues in 2023, DT will still not be addressed in 2023
Stefanski - a 5-win season gives Stefanski a 3-year losing record and puts him directly in the crosshairs of being on the hot seat at the completion of week 18 games.



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