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Groan. Hope for better news. Walker had/has been playing great this season.


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Love JB on 4th and 1s. Never had confidence Baker would make those. Have all the confidence in JB making those.
Love having having a big, tall QB who can see over the line of scrimmage and read the field well.

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Oh yeah that face mask on Conklin was egregious

That's the word I would use to describe the dirty deed....


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Groan. Hope for better news. Walker had/has been playing great this season.


Bummer. This is a big blow to the defense and the locker room. Walker was having a great season.


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I'm still livid about this. I hope the league does something.


I don't think they even called a penalty on that play. Wasn't the flag for illegal man downfield?

I apologize if I am wrong about that, but that made me very angry.


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Groan. Hope for better news. Walker had/has been playing great this season.


Bummer. This is a big blow to the defense and the locker room. Walker was having a great season.


Damn! Like you said earlier, Walker had been playing very well this season.


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That's terrible news.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Good post. I predicted we would win 8 to 10 games this year. I didn't think we would suck like so many others did. I will say that while I thought JB would take less needless sacks and throw fewer interceptions than Baker did, I am surprised at just how well he is playing. He is making some real nice tight window throws. He puts some zip on those intermediate routes.

The schedule is going to get tougher pretty soon. I don't think our offense is going to be explosive and play from behind and I am still concerned about our defense. The Steeler offense is bad right now. We are going to have to get more pressure on the qb and we have to limit the big plays. I think the D needs to get much better in order for us to exceed my preseason won/loss prediction.

But, the team is fun to watch. I love the physicality of our offense and I think Stefanski is a really, really good offensive coach.


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Great stuff. I have said that I thought JB would take fewer needless sacks and I have commented in these post game threads that he really stands tall in the face of the pass rush. Stuff like that doesn't seem to be a big deal, but it really is a huge deal. Think about it.......taking a sack that puts you way behind the chains and often leads to a punt vs making a positive play and often picking up a first down to keep the drive alive.


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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

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Tough news for walker


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

Quite the opposite for me, feed was horrible. I had the picture quality of a third party streaming site and quite often had breaks in audio and a few freezes

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Originally Posted by OrlandoDawg
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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

Quite the opposite for me, feed was horrible. I had the picture quality of a third party streaming site and quite often had breaks in audio and a few freezes

What type of tv and streaming do you have?

I have fiber optic and a 4K TV and the picture was amazing. It was like they were gonna jump right out of the tv. Way better than other streaming services.


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Originally Posted by OrlandoDawg
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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

Quite the opposite for me, feed was horrible. I had the picture quality of a third party streaming site and quite often had breaks in audio and a few freezes


That seems to be the case for a majority of people.


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York still has some goodwill built up from that epic kick in the first game, but he is burning it up if he keeps on missing these kicks

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Originally Posted by OrlandoDawg
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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

Quite the opposite for me, feed was horrible. I had the picture quality of a third party streaming site and quite often had breaks in audio and a few freezes

Same here. I watched the first half at my son's place and the feed was amazing. I came home and it was awful. Very pixelated and some freezing.


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Beautiful.

I was just talking to my son and mentioned you can see how Jacoby is getting comfortable.

In this offense what Jacoby does well fits.

As each week passes he will grow and see all his options.

The defense is based upon qb pressure and coverage in space.

Right now it is hard to tell about the right mix between: press man, off man, and zones. Some guys have been beat in man.

Walker is gone for the year. It is a damn shame. He is a team leader and respected. Phillips is next man up. He made some plays. Both Phillips and Taki are going to be needed.

We have to create pressure from the front four. At this point I am not real comfortable with our front.

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Originally Posted by jfanent
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Just another note, I would love if Amazon somehow ended up with a package similar to Sunday ticket, or even acquiring the rights to it.. The picture quality and camera work, the Pre/post game was top notch

Agreed. Watching the game on a Sony 4K OLED TV was spectacular. Rumor has it that Apple is the front runner for the Sunday Ticket rights.

Yeah, the picture was great and I have also heard the same thing that Apple is the front runner. Btw-------I really enjoy the Michaels/Herbie broadcast team.

Quite the opposite for me, feed was horrible. I had the picture quality of a third party streaming site and quite often had breaks in audio and a few freezes

Same here. I watched the first half at my son's place and the feed was amazing. I came home and it was awful. Very pixelated and some freezing.

Yeah, my feed was good for like the first quarter and than it got bad. Very disappointing to get the same quality feed as finding a sketchy third party streaming site

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Oh yeah that face mask on Conklin was egregious

That's the word I would use to describe the dirty deed....

I listened to the radio broadcast last night and am watching it NFL network today. I was looking for the turd that jump on Walker while he was on the ground for no call and not long after I see Conklin getting face masked. It wasn't like an inadvertent thing either. He pulled him away from the play. People wonder why I like stuff like instant replay. I would love for e team to be able to challenge a no call on an obvious penalty like that. I know it slows the game but man, that's 2 major penalties in the same quarter.

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Those numbers can't be right. I am reading a lot about how irrelevant & overrated Myles is. He only has one move and takes a bunch of plays off.

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Oh yeah that face mask on Conklin was egregious

That's the word I would use to describe the dirty deed....

I listened to the radio broadcast last night and am watching it NFL network today. I was looking for the turd that jump on Walker while he was on the ground for no call and not long after I see Conklin getting face masked. It wasn't like an inadvertent thing either. He pulled him away from the play. People wonder why I like stuff like instant replay. I would love for e team to be able to challenge a no call on an obvious penalty like that. I know it slows the game but man, that's 2 major penalties in the same quarter.


This is one of the big reasons why I scoff at the notion of "the Leagues integrity". They where simply too obvious to everyone save those who's job it is to keep the game within the rules.


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I think the issue with York is kicking at our stadium is a much different animal and he probably doesn’t hav the feel for it yet. I remember Dawson needing to acquire the taste for FES too


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j/c...

Of those having issues... how are you actually accessing the stream? Through the Amazon app?

My Roku TV with the Amazon app has been seamless. I bounce in and out of broadcast formats on TNF with no hang-ups. Absolute worst case has been 2-3 seconds of pixelation. And I have my speed capped at 50mbps for the lowest possible bill here at my apartment. My home in Ohio was having internet issues and only pulling about 25-27mbps, my son had no problems on a Roku TV there either.


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Watched it on roku. We only have like 30 mbps. No issues.

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How in the world Did DPJ Miss the Onside Kick I Almost had a Heat Attack willynilly

I took sleeping pills around the beginning of the 4th quarter and was kinda tired, forgot all about that play. That scared me too.

I was so pumped up after we won I couldn't fall asleep. After awhile I got up out of bed and overate, that always works.

The Cleveland Browns should be sponsored by Big Pharma, with discounts for all of us diehard fans on anti-anxiety meds and especially depression.

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Roku is extremely reliable in a world where tech never seems to mesh.

I have six TVs in two different locations. All are Roku TVs or have a stand-alone Roku unit attached. All stream effortlessly, some with low-speed internet. Access any show exactly where I left off regardless of TV or location. All apps sync as well. Stream live sports with no hiccups... ever. Had a very old unit on an old TV in my bedroom (still worked great), Roku sent me an email saying it was outdated -- floated me a brand-new unit at $10 shipped.


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its frustrating with myles, because you know he's getting doubled and chip blocked every single time, but still wish he could do more. the reality is he's doing his part, and our issues as a fan is we want the highlights non stop.

Coop would've been up there if he didn't have the two drops. i wonder if the play where he ran out of bounds on a route had an impact as well, cause man that would've been a monster play.


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Good observations on both guys. I would like to add that Myles did do a very good job against the run last night.


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Just a couple comments and echoing a little of what was said

- Stefanski called an excellent game. This has become the norm....I love it.

- this isn't a negative, it's more of an interested in why there weren't many screens called this game. Was something they saw in film with the Steelers formations? Was it because everything else was working? did they supplement it with more play action?

- Like it's been said Brissett played excellent.

- One thing I love on passes that aren't quick hits: Brissett will go quickly go through his progressions, THEN calmly reset his feet, and make the pass off what he sees or is given to him. My Browns-minded brain cannot comprehend this. I thought it was written in stone, Browns QBs have to have impatient feet, freak out, and must take a sack in those situations. I'm worried the Browns gods may suspend him for breaking this commandment.

- There is so much to love about the offense, Chubb, Hunt, Cooper, Jjoku, the Oline, but it's all been said so I won't comment on it.

- I can't wait till Clowney comes back, Myles always gets double, triple teamed. I hope Clowney can come back soon, as this will take alittle pressure off of Myles and also lessen the wear and tear for the rest of the season.

- Takitaki keeps showing improvement. I really like him as a player, I hope he can keep improving into a reliable player

- One random complaint at the end of the game. Please let me know if I'm being biased as Browns fan. The last drive where we got the first down, they brought out the chains, said it was a first down, then reviewed it, and said he was short. Am I the only one that saw there wasn't clear evidence at all that he was short to overturn that call?? I guess NY/the refs had a different camera view/angle then we were shown?


One last thing: I am really excited about this team!

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- I can't wait till Clowney comes back, Myles always gets double, triple teamed. I hope Clowney can come back soon, as this will take alittle pressure off of Myles and also lessen the wear and tear for the rest of the season.

Zegura mentioned today on CBD that last night was the Browns first win without Clowney on the field since he's been part of the team. They were previously 0-3 without and him. Zegura also mentioned Garrett has just one sack in games when Clowney has been out. Berry has to figure out a way to keep Clowney and should be looking to trade for a pass rusher on a junk team.


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Good observations.

And yes, I was wondering during the broadcast where is the shot that shows where his knee hit and the ball was?

They never showed it. They just said it was decided.

I love it when sports displays people who do the unexpected. US Hockey team against the Russians. Buster Douglas knocks out Mike Tyson.

Jacoby is going to be an interesting story if he continues to play well and the Browns win.

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Good observations.

And yes, I was wondering during the broadcast where is the shot that shows where his knee hit and the ball was?

They never showed it. They just said it was decided.

I love it when sports displays people who do the unexpected. US Hockey team against the Russians. Buster Douglas knocks out Mike Tyson.

Jacoby is going to be an interesting story if he continues to play well and the Browns win.

He is playing great. He is sticking to the system and not trying to force things. It's very refreshing to watch.


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Agreed.

IMO

Heck on one of his sacks on third down, the rush was on top of him and for a split second he looked like he wanted to pull the trigger on a questionable pass. Instead, he pulled it back in and took the sack instead of causing a possible turnover.


Edit: Meanwhile while watching the Vikes play last weekend, Kirk Cousins was threw two crazy turnovers in the red zone. Those passing decisions were just awful.

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A sack isn't the worst thing.


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Exactly, it was a very smart play. Especially when our punter was pinning them back.

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We are only three games and lots of football to play but a positives look shout out:

Brissett
Cooper
Pocic (not perfect, but not a liability)
Emerson
York (winning FG)
Bojorquez (has been kicking outstanding)

It's REALLY early, but great returns through three games so far Andrew Berry and FO

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Miles was doubled on most every play last night. It was pretty obvious that he was the focus of the offense.


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