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I live in Patriots territory. I really heard it after last year's debacle. I'll be getting another colonoscopy after next week's game.

First, neither Woods nor Ski is getting fired right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if they felt their seats getting warm.

Smart. Tough. Accountable.

Franchise is a joke.

Maybe you should root for Carolina?

Maybe i can run for president of the Fabulous Baker Boys. With my leadership I think we can really grow our membership.

You are not mean enough, bro. You're are out of your mind w/some of your opinions, but not evil enough to run that troupe.

Wasn't that part of the big deal about JJIII? Wasn't he the QB of the DBs in LA? Wasn't he the signal caller, the vocal leader, the veteran guy who would hold all of our young guys accountable? Wasn't that him?

Those guys aren't mean, they're comical.

And unfortunately I'm nasty mean, but I only bring that out as a last, last, last, last,.last resort.

I think, but am not sure, that that was the rhetoric. However, the Rams drafted Jordan Fuller from The Ohio State University and chose not to keep JJ. Not sure what to make of that????? But, we had to replace that dude w/a name that sounded like a city in the country that used to be Yugoslavia.

100m

Brownz have BuKu guyz who can get good results on a blitz. I3?
almost never bring a guy on a blitz.

That is what we were told.

Just needing to "clean it up" is starting to take on a new meaning.

If I m remembering correctly, last season we started out with communication issues on defense, especially in the defensive backfield. This was with Anthony Walker wearing the green dot. Then Walker got injured, the green dot transferred to JJ3 and the defense got in sync and oayed pretty well the back half of the season.

Fast forward to this season, Walker is back and starting and gets the green dot back. There is a lack of communication especially in the defensive backfield. Walker gets injured an is again out for the season. I expected the green dot to transfer to JJ3, but instead it goes to Phillips. This I don't get. JJ3 clearly did a good job with the green dot last year. Instead we give it to a back-up linebacker?

a backup linebacker who barely played and when he does is the one of the worst linebacker in the NFL...JJ3 def. should have had it as the veteran

I asked this before....why is the green dot so friggen important? It's not like that person gets everybody lined up. They hear the call and make the huddle call.I have never seen them getting the D line and other positions lined up.

Unless the guys is a dummy and can't repeat what he is told in the earpiece or can't talk clearly enough, anybody can wear the dot.

To me the problem isn't the green dot, it's the players who don't know what the hell they are supposed to do on various defensive calls.

JJ3 was one of the top safeties in the league with the Rams, PFF gave him an elite grade 3 out of 4 seasons with them and the lone season he didn't receive an elite grade he was injured and missed 11 games. Yet he comes here and he has been average at best, why? Troy Hill was a pretty good Nickle Corner for the Rams and he comes here for 1 year and is average at best, goes back to the Rams and his PFF grade goes back up to above average, why?

Honestly that might be the best datum point to grade our coaching on - better than trying to guess what rookie DT's and LBs might or might not have been elsewhere. JJ3 is pretty b/w example.

I half expected to see that we fired Joe Woods this morning.

Not that I like to see someone get fired ... but we have fired some coaches in the past over less ineptitude then we have been witnessing with each passing game this season ... it's unexceptable at this level.

My understanding is that the defensive player with the green dot is the "Qb" of the defensive and is able to read the play the offense is going to run and audible the defensive call to better match up

I would like to say, if you are defending JW, every argument you make is probably factual. Stats and analytics say one thing.

But for 2 years it is the same thing. rinse & repeat.

The Browns can not hold a lead. Period. Up 3 points with 3:00 left- game over, we lose. Up 13 with 2:00 to go, Game Over- yep, we lose.

Whenever the Browns score to build any momentum, the D is giving up a big plays and points. probably on back to back possessions erasing any lead we thought we had.

Every Dang Game.

The dude refuses to disguise looks and bring more than 4 rushers more than a couple times a game and it is old.

j/c:



Everyone needs a little 'puff, puff, give' with this defense.

He's just starting to work on this now. He should have started 5 months ago!!

Thanks for sharing that stuff; I gotta make time to watch it later.

Thanks Milk

Full press conference.

Way to rack up that post count!

Note: Just a personal opinion and one that probably won't be shared by many.

I think most people who have followed my posting history knows that I often defend coaches. I usually don't like the hire, but I try to defend them in what I view as unfair criticism. That's probably due an answer that is two-fold.

The first being is that a lot of these guys were not the greatest players. They loved the game. Played the game. Never succeeded because they were superior athletes, but they worked harder than almost everyone. They studied the game because they loved it and/or were motivated to be the very best they could be. Most of the greatest coaches/managers in many sports were marginal players who did things the right way. Think of guys like Belichick, Lasorda, Pat Riley, etc. They reach the upper echelon of their profession and so many scream about how terrible they are. It bothers me that people actually want to see people fired from their job. That does not seem very humaine to me. It seems rather cruel. And I am almost 100% positive that those calling for these guys to be fired don't have even 20% of the knowledge that the coaches/managers have.

The second is that I coached. Multiple sports on various levels. It's a tough job and some dummy in the stands always knows more than the coaches do. It's annoying. They don't know 32 Iso from 20 Trap, yet they say "What a dumb play call! They don't go to practices and are not involved in team meetings or visit the locker room. Yet, they can tell you w/certainty that a coach is failing on all three levels.

Carry on.....

Thanks!

It’s hard being one of the extras on this sitcom. The writers haven’t given me a catch phrase like you. Hopefully I can work my way up and in the next season series or two the writers will add one for me.

Maybe over 20 years now, I was at a Tennessee Baseball Coaches Association meeting and at the banquet I had the luck chance to sit at a table with Tommy Lasorda.

One of the things he said was that every American man feels he can do 3 things better than any other man.

1. Build a campfire.

2. Make love to a woman.

3. Manage a baseball team.

Just sharing a little humor from Tommy.

On a side note - camp fire. Several years ago, at a camp site, dude started a fire to cook over. He's a doctor. A Gen Prac doctor, and relation. He was complaining about the smoke blowing right where they were going to sit.

I said "Bet you started the fire on that side, didn't you?" Yes. I said "smoke always goes to the side you start the fire on." He was amazed, this doctor. Said I never knew that! How'd you know that? In boy scouts? I could not contain myself............."no, Dr. It really has to do with the way the wind is blowing."

LMAO !!

Well, it's obvious that you don't have a degree from Troll-U, or you could have 5 thousand posts with one less like than the guy you are trolling for a thanks post boosting his post count. You can't make this crap up, so you should have fun with it just like you did.

Unless it was Whitey Herzog!!

Another excellent manager.

Big Cardinal fan here!!

Cards have had some great teams w/Gibson, Brock, Flood, Herzon, Red Schodiest [spelling] Herzon, Dale Maxville, Ken Boyer, Hernandez, Torre, Hendrick, Jack Clark, Willie McGhee, Coleman, Ozzie, Tudor, Forsch, Pendelton, Van Slyke, etc.

Sure have. One of the 2 or 3 best baseball cities in America. I've been there 3 times with my family to watch games and take in the sites of St. Louis. Very enjoyable and the people were nice. It broke my heart when they lost to Detroit in the "68 World Series after being up 3-1. Then they did it again in "85. UGH!!!