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I'm probably going to be wrong on this, but isn't he an unrestricted free agent after this year? Meaning, does Baltimore even have the ability to trade him?

He is unless he is tagged.

Lamar not traveling w/the team is huge. Harbaugh looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown. I wonder what Baltimore could get for Lamar in a trade? Analysts are saying even more than Watson got, but I don't know about that. Watson has always been a much better passer of the football than Lamar. I am not talking about stats. I'm talking about making reads, throwing to the right guy, using all parts of the field, accuracy, etc. Glad the Rats are in a precarious position. They stole our team.

With the way Jackson is acting, I am not sure all that many teams will want the guy.

I understand a player doing what he feels is best, but not so much when it looks like you are giving up on your teammates.

I have a feeling there are more than a few Ravens players who would like to have a meeting with Lamar out behind the woodshed.

Don't disagree with him... not sure he should air that publicly.. but understand his frustration...

He’s gonna be gone unless he gets the guaranteed money he wants. It’s all about guaranteed from now on

Solid takes IMO, Bone. It feels simpler to me, so it is probably wrong, but I can't shake it.

Can you trust him? What are his priorities and commitment to this team? Feels like those answers might be a bit squishy to me.

Teams will also have to consider the salary demands that he is reportedly asking for. Lamar has been wildly successful and demolished expectations, but money, injury history, style of play have to be evaluated by any team that is considering him as their qb.

JMHO, Jackson bet on himself AND LOST. He got hurt again and didn't want to expose himself to more damage WITHOUT a contract. He wanted to save money representing himself- pay for MVP season and his running- showed he can throw SOME. I would not want him on my team as THE LEADER. He's solid, when available- I wouldn't be surprised to see Baltimore offer him in trade AFTER the franchise tag.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...sible-message-to-ravens-on-social-media/

Lamar Jackson sends possible message to Ravens on social media
Posted by Mike Florio on January 16, 2023, 10:42 AM EST


Last week, things seemed to come to a head between the Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson. As the offseason officially commences in Baltimore, Jackson may be ready to continue to apply pressure to the pimple that has festered on the forehead of player and team.

“When you have something good,” Jackson posted on his Instagram story, “you don’t play with it. You don’t take chances losing it. You don’t neglect it. When you have something good, you pour into it. You appreciate it. Because when you take care of something good, that good thing takes care of you too.”

The comment will be interpreted as a message to the Ravens. In 2022, they refused to give him a five-year, fully-guaranteed contract. More recently, a sense of exasperation from the organization has emerged regarding his unwillingness to play in the postseason with a PCL sprain.

Jackson seemingly has tiptoed around doing anything over the past two years that would paint him as the bad guy. If the Ravens are going to subtly characterize him that way (and/or fail to push back on the efforts of outside voices to do so), he might as well embrace the role and do what Deshaun Watson did as one of the various steps on his path to a five-year, fully-guaranteed deal from the Browns — make it clear he’s done playing for his current team.

That could indeed happen in the coming weeks. All options are on the table, starting with a renewed effort to work out a long-term deal. Given that the two sides could make no progress when the relationship was strong, it’s hard to imagine a deal getting done at a time when things feel tense and dysfunctional.

The question then becomes whether the Ravens will apply the non-exclusive franchise tag, opening the door to negotiations between Lamar and other teams, and quite possibly an offer sheet or a trade.

When he loses his legs, he's got no game.

Hell, he can't even play with a high ankle sprain like last year. The best part is he knows it - can't run, sorry Coach, can't play. Yeah, that's a guy I want to hitch my wagon to and pay some ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Love it for the Rats.

IF Lamar was truly injured and couldn't play, then do you want to pay top dollar for your QB who couldn't play in the playoffs?

He played 12 games this season.


If he wasn't too injured to play, that means he quit on his team to send a message, which won't go over well with teammates, especially considering they could have won that game.

These type of comments I find confusing. What is a teams commitments to their players? I mean other than the guaranteed money the NFL has constructed their contract structure in a way they don't even have to honor it other than the guaranteed money to the players. A teams priorities is to look out for the teams best interests. The players priority is to look out for their career and families best interests. That's how all business is conducted in the world.

100% agree.. I have no problem with Lamar not wanting to play if he's not 100% and he doesn't have a long term deal... he's gotta protect himself.. I disagree with him not traveling with the team, but frankly, I don't know if he has been going to their regular season games when he was out? Frankly, he could be resting/rehabbing and it may have been more disruptive to travel? Who knows...

Either way, I love that the Ravens have some turmoil at the most important position on the team. They played a heck of a game last night and almost pulled it off... glad they lost

Why do I get the feeling that the Ravens (much like the Steelers) will be just fine either way?

Maybe because they managed to win a SB with Trent Frickin' Dilfer at QB?

And the drama only gets ratcheted up.

Does he have a dog?

I kind of smile knowing that Andrew Berry had his hand in causing the Ravens and their QB to possibly divorce. I would hope the same for the Bengals and Borrow but by then Watson's contract will look quite a bit friendlier and not have that same effect.

It makes you appreciate what a guy like Baker did here last season, but look how that turned out for him. Lamar saw that. And I bet if Mayfield had it to do over again, he would have insisted on going on IR when his shoulder got wrecked. All playing hurt did was turn the fan base on him.

Hearing turmoil in Ratbird land makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Doesn't mean we'll get out of the AFC North basement yet, but there could be hope

A very modest goal but at this point a goal none the less.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/lamar-jackson-win-loss-record-playoff

Along with his injury this year - and coupled with the electric play we have all seen at times - his w/l record in the playoffs is 1-3. I have no doubt a QB starved team (like the Panthers) would pay him handsomely and give up a couple first rounders. I don't see Watson money or Watson draft capital. There was risk with Watson because of the legal situation and the 1 or 2 year hiatus (depending on how you judge that) to me the Lamar risk factor is much higher.

Wonder why Pit and others aren't chastising you for bringing Baker up in a thread?

Wait, we all know why? Say what we want and it's cool. Say what we don't want to hear and attack.

Rather than do that I chose to make it clear that the entire "keeping Baker" idea was silly. I thought you said people shouldn't be telling others what to and what not to post? Oh that's right, everyone but you.

I was trying to help set an example of how to handle the topic in a constructive manner instead of starting a fight. It's true that no good deed goes unpunished.

I thought you would like my response?

Maybe they franchise him, and he gets "hurt" again? I don't know how it all works.

So? I don't care if you feel picked on, Vers, because you're by far the biggest bully on the board. But you can't pull that crap on me because I will shut you down. How about we all give it a rest? Everybody is tired of it except you and one or two others. I've moved on and think you should too. This comment was in no way an attack on you or your preferred QB. It was just an opinion and observation. Yet, you still turned my words into an attack on somebody, smfh. So yeah, let's all move on because the next sideways attack aimed at me over anything Baker is gonna cause me to break a foot off in somebody's ass verbally, and I don't like being like that outside the outhouse. I'm asking you nicely right here and now; can we all just move on, please?

LMAO-------------Scaring people on a message board is real in your head? You are delusional. Btw--I could care less if you continue to show how clueless and in love w/Baker you are. I'm just pointing out the double standards of other posters who tell others not to even mention Baker.

Saying you will do something verbally does seem scary to snowflakes. As I stated, I explained Baker's limitations and why I think they made the right choice to move on from him. I know how much that must offend you. lmao

You are right. It's not scary in the slightest. He's living in some make-believe world where he is a tough guy.

And some people around here complain (incessantly) that all you do is lie.

I think the ravens will tag Lamar, but who knows if he’ll be receptive to that?
I don’t know what their plan B is at quarterback.

We all know you used to play tough guy until you got called out and embarrassed. Look that up.