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This whole situation has turned into bizzaro world.

Everybody involved is giving the politically correct answer. But something is rotten in Denmark.

Nobody walks in Lamar's shoes. But it seems many are questioning why is he not playing?

Harbaugh and the Ravens say he is our guy and our future. Lamar is consistently quoted about all I want to do is win Super Bowls.

Yet what is really going on? No deal. No play. Three games from a Super Bowl. Way slower recovery from a PCL sprain. Questionable use of medical terminology. "Knee unstable."

Lamar has missed the playoffs before.

What would you do if you are the Ravens? Franchise tag available. How will Lamar react if the tag is applied?

Quarterbacks don't grow or fall off trees.

I would seriously consider trading him for max value. At least see what offers come.

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I'm probably going to be wrong on this, but isn't he an unrestricted free agent after this year? Meaning, does Baltimore even have the ability to trade him?

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I'm probably going to be wrong on this, but isn't he an unrestricted free agent after this year? Meaning, does Baltimore even have the ability to trade him?

He is unless he is tagged.

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There are ways to do it, but there are hurdles as well.

If a player is tagged with a franchise tag, that player is still technically a free agent until they sign the offer (the “franchise tender”). Prior to that, they don’t have a valid contract with the original team (henceforth: “Team A”), so you can’t trade a player who doesn’t actually work for you. So start with the fact that unless the player SIGNS the franchise offer, the answer is a flat “no” because there’s no valid contract. That’s the player’s leverage in all of this.

What Team A does have is the RIGHTS to the player — they do exert some control over his ability to play for anyone else (“Team B”). There are three different cases:

Exclusive franchise tender (almost always used on QBs): the player can ONLY sign or sit out. No right to go elsewhere.
Non-exclusive franchise tender: the player can negotiate and sign with Team B, but by virtue of making the franchise offer, Team A gets two #1 picks from the new team, driving up the cost of acquiring the player. This price USUALLY scares off any interest; I can’t remember the last time someone actually paid the price.
Transition tag: works similarly in terms of the tender offer and the right to match the offer, but with no draft-pick compensation. It’s rarely used because if you’re (Team A) gonna go through this process at all, you want to get some picks back.
It’s important to understand that in all three cases, the tender offer is the average of the top players at the same position, so the trade-off for controlling that player’s movement is you have to pay him like a star for that one year. And it’s guaranteed money.

So there are times when you can get trades in situations like that. Team A has this valuable asset, but maybe they can’t fit him under the cap, or a younger cheaper player emerged at the same position, or they’re about to go into a rebuild and want to stockpile draft picks, or the player and coach clash. So Team B says: we’re prepared to sign your guy, but if you’re going to insist on the two first-rounders, we’ll walk away and you’ll be stuck with an $18M WR we both know you can’t afford. But if you make it a 2nd and a 4th, we’ll take him. If the teams agree and if the player can hammer out an extension with Team B, the deal can get done.


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As the world turns in Baltimore.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-huntley-after-playoff-loss/11061656002/

Some people are not happy.

This will be an interesting scene to keep an eye on.

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Lamar not traveling w/the team is huge. Harbaugh looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown. I wonder what Baltimore could get for Lamar in a trade? Analysts are saying even more than Watson got, but I don't know about that. Watson has always been a much better passer of the football than Lamar. I am not talking about stats. I'm talking about making reads, throwing to the right guy, using all parts of the field, accuracy, etc. Glad the Rats are in a precarious position. They stole our team.

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With the way Jackson is acting, I am not sure all that many teams will want the guy.

I understand a player doing what he feels is best, but not so much when it looks like you are giving up on your teammates.

I have a feeling there are more than a few Ravens players who would like to have a meeting with Lamar out behind the woodshed.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
As the world turns in Baltimore.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-huntley-after-playoff-loss/11061656002/

Some people are not happy.

This will be an interesting scene to keep an eye on.

Don't disagree with him... not sure he should air that publicly.. but understand his frustration...


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I agree.

Lamer has really improved as a passer. I give him major credit. However, as with many before him running quarterbacks have dues to pay.

You go down past the LOS heavy guys fall with you. Things get broken.

He is a special talent. The thing is can you afford to invest in him? He will cost. But he does not come with insurance on the investment.

I have no idea where this situation ends up.

You never know what the value is until someone is willing to pay the price.

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He’s gonna be gone unless he gets the guaranteed money he wants. It’s all about guaranteed from now on


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Solid takes IMO, Bone. It feels simpler to me, so it is probably wrong, but I can't shake it.

Can you trust him? What are his priorities and commitment to this team? Feels like those answers might be a bit squishy to me.


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This is to a degree unique.

He is only 26 and a former MVP. He is 45-16 in games started. His QBR has been high and low.

Baltimore designed the offense around him which includes him running the ball.

Does another team look at him and say "we can do that and win with him"? Knowing the injury history.

I am not sure how this will turn out at all.

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Teams will also have to consider the salary demands that he is reportedly asking for. Lamar has been wildly successful and demolished expectations, but money, injury history, style of play have to be evaluated by any team that is considering him as their qb.

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JMHO, Jackson bet on himself AND LOST. He got hurt again and didn't want to expose himself to more damage WITHOUT a contract. He wanted to save money representing himself- pay for MVP season and his running- showed he can throw SOME. I would not want him on my team as THE LEADER. He's solid, when available- I wouldn't be surprised to see Baltimore offer him in trade AFTER the franchise tag.


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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...sible-message-to-ravens-on-social-media/

Lamar Jackson sends possible message to Ravens on social media
Posted by Mike Florio on January 16, 2023, 10:42 AM EST


Last week, things seemed to come to a head between the Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson. As the offseason officially commences in Baltimore, Jackson may be ready to continue to apply pressure to the pimple that has festered on the forehead of player and team.

“When you have something good,” Jackson posted on his Instagram story, “you don’t play with it. You don’t take chances losing it. You don’t neglect it. When you have something good, you pour into it. You appreciate it. Because when you take care of something good, that good thing takes care of you too.”

The comment will be interpreted as a message to the Ravens. In 2022, they refused to give him a five-year, fully-guaranteed contract. More recently, a sense of exasperation from the organization has emerged regarding his unwillingness to play in the postseason with a PCL sprain.

Jackson seemingly has tiptoed around doing anything over the past two years that would paint him as the bad guy. If the Ravens are going to subtly characterize him that way (and/or fail to push back on the efforts of outside voices to do so), he might as well embrace the role and do what Deshaun Watson did as one of the various steps on his path to a five-year, fully-guaranteed deal from the Browns — make it clear he’s done playing for his current team.

That could indeed happen in the coming weeks. All options are on the table, starting with a renewed effort to work out a long-term deal. Given that the two sides could make no progress when the relationship was strong, it’s hard to imagine a deal getting done at a time when things feel tense and dysfunctional.

The question then becomes whether the Ravens will apply the non-exclusive franchise tag, opening the door to negotiations between Lamar and other teams, and quite possibly an offer sheet or a trade.


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When he loses his legs, he's got no game.

Hell, he can't even play with a high ankle sprain like last year. The best part is he knows it - can't run, sorry Coach, can't play. Yeah, that's a guy I want to hitch my wagon to and pay some ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Love it for the Rats.

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IF Lamar was truly injured and couldn't play, then do you want to pay top dollar for your QB who couldn't play in the playoffs?

He played 12 games this season.


If he wasn't too injured to play, that means he quit on his team to send a message, which won't go over well with teammates, especially considering they could have won that game.


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Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Can you trust him? What are his priorities and commitment to this team? Feels like those answers might be a bit squishy to me.

These type of comments I find confusing. What is a teams commitments to their players? I mean other than the guaranteed money the NFL has constructed their contract structure in a way they don't even have to honor it other than the guaranteed money to the players. A teams priorities is to look out for the teams best interests. The players priority is to look out for their career and families best interests. That's how all business is conducted in the world.


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Can you trust him? What are his priorities and commitment to this team? Feels like those answers might be a bit squishy to me.

These type of comments I find confusing. What is a teams commitments to their players? I mean other than the guaranteed money the NFL has constructed their contract structure in a way they don't even have to honor it other than the guaranteed money to the players. A teams priorities is to look out for the teams best interests. The players priority is to look out for their career and families best interests. That's how all business is conducted in the world.


100% agree.. I have no problem with Lamar not wanting to play if he's not 100% and he doesn't have a long term deal... he's gotta protect himself.. I disagree with him not traveling with the team, but frankly, I don't know if he has been going to their regular season games when he was out? Frankly, he could be resting/rehabbing and it may have been more disruptive to travel? Who knows...

Either way, I love that the Ravens have some turmoil at the most important position on the team. They played a heck of a game last night and almost pulled it off... glad they lost


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Why do I get the feeling that the Ravens (much like the Steelers) will be just fine either way?

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Maybe because they managed to win a SB with Trent Frickin' Dilfer at QB? willynilly


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And the drama only gets ratcheted up.



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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And the drama only gets ratcheted up.


Does he have a dog?



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I kind of smile knowing that Andrew Berry had his hand in causing the Ravens and their QB to possibly divorce. I would hope the same for the Bengals and Borrow but by then Watson's contract will look quite a bit friendlier and not have that same effect.


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When he loses his legs, he's got no game.

Hell, he can't even play with a high ankle sprain like last year. The best part is he knows it - can't run, sorry Coach, can't play. Yeah, that's a guy I want to hitch my wagon to and pay some ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Love it for the Rats.

It makes you appreciate what a guy like Baker did here last season, but look how that turned out for him. Lamar saw that. And I bet if Mayfield had it to do over again, he would have insisted on going on IR when his shoulder got wrecked. All playing hurt did was turn the fan base on him.

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Hearing turmoil in Ratbird land makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Doesn't mean we'll get out of the AFC North basement yet, but there could be hope

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A very modest goal but at this point a goal none the less.


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https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/lamar-jackson-win-loss-record-playoff

Along with his injury this year - and coupled with the electric play we have all seen at times - his w/l record in the playoffs is 1-3. I have no doubt a QB starved team (like the Panthers) would pay him handsomely and give up a couple first rounders. I don't see Watson money or Watson draft capital. There was risk with Watson because of the legal situation and the 1 or 2 year hiatus (depending on how you judge that) to me the Lamar risk factor is much higher.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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When he loses his legs, he's got no game.

Hell, he can't even play with a high ankle sprain like last year. The best part is he knows it - can't run, sorry Coach, can't play. Yeah, that's a guy I want to hitch my wagon to and pay some ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Love it for the Rats.

It makes you appreciate what a guy like Baker did here last season, but look how that turned out for him. Lamar saw that. And I bet if Mayfield had it to do over again, he would have insisted on going on IR when his shoulder got wrecked. All playing hurt did was turn the fan base on him.

Wonder why Pit and others aren't chastising you for bringing Baker up in a thread?

Wait, we all know why? Say what we want and it's cool. Say what we don't want to hear and attack.

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Rather than do that I chose to make it clear that the entire "keeping Baker" idea was silly. I thought you said people shouldn't be telling others what to and what not to post? Oh that's right, everyone but you.

I was trying to help set an example of how to handle the topic in a constructive manner instead of starting a fight. It's true that no good deed goes unpunished.

I thought you would like my response?


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I don't know all the in's and out's of contracts.

It says he UFA in 2023. I know that the Ravens could franchise him. But Lamar could hold out.

They could also extend him with a new deal.

IMO NFL players will want their money guaranteed. The NBA and MLB the salaries are guaranteed. DW got his deal. If I were a player I for sure would want that.

However, I don't know what will happen. The Ravens owner will be in on this one.

It is not like the Ravens can go to the store and buy another QB. Hunley? At the same time if you are the Ravens. Are you going to sign Lamar to a long term deal guaranteed? I don't think so.

The tone smells like divorce.

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Maybe they franchise him, and he gets "hurt" again? I don't know how it all works.

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This is a tough call.

Both for Lamar and the Ravens and for that matter any team that would have interest.

Money, money, money. He will get paid. However, if you only chase money and the fit is bad. Not good.

If a prospective team wants him. They will need an offense for him. If you commit to build an offense for him and it includes him running the ball.

Risky risky. If Lamar thinks he can become a more conventional drop back passer. He may not succeed.

I am sure in his mind he can do it all. But that may not be true.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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When he loses his legs, he's got no game.

Hell, he can't even play with a high ankle sprain like last year. The best part is he knows it - can't run, sorry Coach, can't play. Yeah, that's a guy I want to hitch my wagon to and pay some ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Love it for the Rats.

It makes you appreciate what a guy like Baker did here last season, but look how that turned out for him. Lamar saw that. And I bet if Mayfield had it to do over again, he would have insisted on going on IR when his shoulder got wrecked. All playing hurt did was turn the fan base on him.

Wonder why Pit and others aren't chastising you for bringing Baker up in a thread?

Wait, we all know why? Say what we want and it's cool. Say what we don't want to hear and attack.

So? I don't care if you feel picked on, Vers, because you're by far the biggest bully on the board. But you can't pull that crap on me because I will shut you down. How about we all give it a rest? Everybody is tired of it except you and one or two others. I've moved on and think you should too. This comment was in no way an attack on you or your preferred QB. It was just an opinion and observation. Yet, you still turned my words into an attack on somebody, smfh. So yeah, let's all move on because the next sideways attack aimed at me over anything Baker is gonna cause me to break a foot off in somebody's ass verbally, and I don't like being like that outside the outhouse. I'm asking you nicely right here and now; can we all just move on, please?


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LMAO-------------Scaring people on a message board is real in your head? You are delusional. Btw--I could care less if you continue to show how clueless and in love w/Baker you are. I'm just pointing out the double standards of other posters who tell others not to even mention Baker.

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LMAO-------------Scaring people on a message board is real in your head? You are delusional. Btw--I could care less if you continue to show how clueless and in love w/Baker you are. I'm just pointing out the double standards of other posters who tell others not to even mention Baker.

Saying you will do something verbally does seem scary to snowflakes. As I stated, I explained Baker's limitations and why I think they made the right choice to move on from him. I know how much that must offend you. lmao


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You are right. It's not scary in the slightest. He's living in some make-believe world where he is a tough guy.

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You are right. It's not scary in the slightest. He's living in some make-believe world where he is a tough guy.

And some people around here complain (incessantly) that all you do is lie.

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I think the ravens will tag Lamar, but who knows if he’ll be receptive to that?
I don’t know what their plan B is at quarterback.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
You are right. It's not scary in the slightest. He's living in some make-believe world where he is a tough guy.

We all know you used to play tough guy until you got called out and embarrassed. Look that up.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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