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Originally Posted by mac
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Rogers lasted FOUR plays. Oline problems and turf sure showed up. Now Jets have more experienced Wilson and Boyle as practice squad/now number one backup----major issues.


NFL Football is A YOUNG MAN'S GAME...with few exceptions

The Jets 38 yr old LT picked a horrible time to miss a block.

Or Rodgers picked a horrible play to hold the ball longer than the play design called for. Got to get the ball out quick when you have the OL cut blocking to clear passing lanes on a short slant.


With few exceptions, the NFL is a young mans game with most having just a 3.3 yr career on average.

I failed to mention that Rogers was also pushing limits of old age in the NFL, pushing 40 yrs old QB.

If teams are willing to do anything to win, then they must accept the risk that goes with their decisions, such as pushing the limits beyond the norms.

I assure you that the play design that allowed the Bills DE a clear path to Rogers is most likely being reconsidered.

The NFL is a young mans game...Check out the average NFL career span of players by position below.

https://thesportsdaily.com/news/what-is-the-average-length-of-an-nfl-career-by-position/ 


Kickers/Punters — 4.87
Quarterbacks — 4.44
Offensive Linemen — 3.63
Defensive Linemen — 3.24
Linebackers — 2.97
Cornerbacks — 2.94
Tight Ends — 2.85
Wide Receivers — 2.81
Running Backs — 2.57
League average — 3.3





...I posted that 3.3 number in the salary cap thread yesterday. Just saying.


One can definitely question the play design. It's just rough to blame the OT to me. Its hard to block someone for any amount of time from the ground, which is where OL inevitably wind up when asked to cut block.


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Ok which one if you guys spoke this injury into existance?


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Originally Posted by GMdawg
Ok which one if you guys spoke this injury into existance?

It seems he pissed off a shaman during one of his ayahuasca trips.


Not sure who this guy that called it is:



Kinda strange that the account is now suspended. NFL claiming breach of contract for leaking the script?


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Not sure who this guy that called it is:



Kinda strange that the account is now suspended. NFL claiming breach of contract for leaking the script?

If it was the actual guy named there, he's the CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery


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So Disney's writing the NFL scripts now? ...Interesting naughtydevil


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somebody had fun writing that script last night


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Sad.

Hate to see players injured. So much went into bringing him to the Jets. Expectations off the charts.

The fans have to be sick.

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Originally Posted by mac
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Originally Posted by hitt
Rogers lasted FOUR plays. Oline problems and turf sure showed up. Now Jets have more experienced Wilson and Boyle as practice squad/now number one backup----major issues.


NFL Football is A YOUNG MAN'S GAME...with few exceptions

The Jets 38 yr old LT picked a horrible time to miss a block.

Or Rodgers picked a horrible play to hold the ball longer than the play design called for. Got to get the ball out quick when you have the OL cut blocking to clear passing lanes on a short slant.


With few exceptions, the NFL is a young mans game with most having just a 3.3 yr career on average.

I failed to mention that Rogers was also pushing limits of old age in the NFL, pushing 40 yrs old QB.

If teams are willing to do anything to win, then they must accept the risk that goes with their decisions, such as pushing the limits beyond the norms.

I assure you that the play design that allowed the Bills DE a clear path to Rogers is most likely being reconsidered.

The NFL is a young mans game...Check out the average NFL career span of players by position below.

https://thesportsdaily.com/news/what-is-the-average-length-of-an-nfl-career-by-position/ 


Kickers/Punters — 4.87
Quarterbacks — 4.44
Offensive Linemen — 3.63
Defensive Linemen — 3.24
Linebackers — 2.97
Cornerbacks — 2.94
Tight Ends — 2.85
Wide Receivers — 2.81
Running Backs — 2.57
League average — 3.3




I don't disagree that injuries cut short careers, but I would love to see stats on what percentage of these 4-year careers end as a result of injury, vs things like newer players drafted or signed that are better, or players on a team drafted by the previous administration. I think of Browns players out of the game that were young and not necessarily injured. Just take Schwartz for example. Justin Gilbert was top 10 and he was out in that time frame IIRC.

Looking over the numbers I would guess there are 10-15 potential NFL RBs (not studs, just players) in the draft each year. Every year we seem to have a guy or 2 in camp who look like they belong.

Obviously, injuries happen, but new talent coming in makes previous season's backups look less desirable.

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...The whole Toy Story game broadcast is starting to take on a different light.

Did Goodell wake up with a horse head in his bed or something? Did some wise guys tell him how things were going to go?


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Tackles are tackles.
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The replay is playing on NFL network and I noticed that the Jets tried the same cut blocking on their first play and it didn't work then either. Rodgers may have actually tweaked the achilles on that play first as he tried to spin away from a rusher. 2nd snap with more normal blocking also was underwhelming and Aaron looked a bit awkward moving around. I wonder how much stink eye Hackett is getting today. Joe Douglas is probably regretting not doing more at OT as well.


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I thought that too Bull. .. that whole first drive wasn't right from the start. It had a weird vibe all pregame too


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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woah the Browns fans are all over him. lol


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My dark horse is Taysom Hill. Doesn't seem to be in the plans in New Orleans with Payton gone, and only played 9 snaps in week one. While not your typical QB, a more ground and pound approach with the occasional shot play to Garrett Wilson could potentially mesh well with that D in an otherwise seemingly lost season.


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Jets really had high expectations now they are looking at beyond a very long season.


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I know Rodgers is Rodgers, but how did he not get flagged for throwing ball at the Bills player?

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Originally Posted by Frenchy
I know Rodgers is Rodgers, but how did he not get flagged for throwing ball at the Bills player?


Totally unsubstantiated conspiracy theory: He was hurt before the game started and the league and officials knew it, so they gave him some latitude.


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Most top tier NFL QB's get preferential treatment. Not saying it's right but they just do.


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