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I would be willing to wager he doesn't sit out the next two games. They wanted to sign a RB who was ready to roll. If you're interested PM me.

I don't think we need to wager anything. he may be in shape but, he is definitely not in football shape. He will need time to be the best version of himself and get used to contact again. He will be definitively be on a pitch count the first week.

The one thing that stands out to me is just how bad our Passing Offense is given how bad the two Passing Defenses are that we've faced.

looks like I should take that bet LOL

LOL It's like Stefanski took the words right out of my mouth

I would say you're probably right about him having a pitch count for the first week or two.

Hardly any of the players around the league are in football shape

Due to the rule changes that allowed them

Weak practices

Irritates the heck out of me !

Pit ! You ready to roll ?

What jersey number you wearing ?

I can see you tearing it up

Of course he looks in better shape. He has dropped 10 pounds and is down to 206 (he was 216 last year) As I said when we let him go. It looked like he lost a step last year, this is his way of being able to hit the hole quicker.

I wear #73. What number do you wear?

44

I'm following you !

Browns -2.5 this Sunday against the Ravens.

The Browns need to win this game a lot more than it will probably feel like.

some of the keys will be field goals, the field goal kicker, the Browns Field goal kicker and being able to kick field goals.

Another key will be having the better TE on the day, getting better play out of your TE than the ravens get out of their TE's
because it is an AFC North game.

The Ravens WILL limit your number one WR, and throwing will not be for easy completions because,
if anyone has been paying attention or been even
alive for the past 20 years they'll know, the Ravens always do that to the Browns.

the team that wins the AFC North usually has the best TE. more often than usually.

If the Browns lose to the Ravens at home, they likely will not make the playoffs in any way, b/c it will be even more difficult to beat them in the 2nd game, on the road, if you lose to them in the first game, at home, therefore,
you'll likely get swept by the Ravens and be no better than 2 and 3 in your div going into week I8 at cincy and at that point, you'll likely miss the playoffs.

It' would be WAY easier to get the win, this week at home, if trying to keep up in the div. because
the steelers aren't going away as long as the league remains an unfair league.
Which means
The Browns desperately need to win this game just as much as they did need to win the opener, and last week, and week 2.

j/c...

Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL
#Browns to work out offensive tackle Chim Okorafor per a league source
@KPRC2

The Vikings signed him on August 14th and then waved him on August 25th.

The latest issue...

I think the achilles heal on our Browns is the O-line. If we stay relatively healthy we should be OK but any serious injuries and we will be in trouble. JMO

Agreed Bone. You'd think he would be working hard so he would get a better contract. Doesn't seem to have much incentive.

I'm Glad Wills is the Tackle, b/c he's loads better than Hudson currently.

Better at this point in time, but not loads better.

Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
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The Lowest QB rating allowed by Safeties in the NFL entering Week 4 (min. 9 targets):

1) #49ers Talanoa Hufanga - 8.3
2) #Browns Grant Delpit - 28.5
3) #Cowboys Jayron Kearse - 35.8
4) #Panthers Vonn Bell - 36.2
5) #Falcons Jessie Bates - 37.5
6) #Bills Micah Hyde - 39.2

Interesting. #s 4 & 5 were the 2 starting safeties the Bengals let go after last season.

Delpit has had a great start to his season.

his whole thing will just be staying healthy

I'm wondering if the Browns should try moving Wills to RT (Natural position) and Jones to LT (Played last year at tOSU)that may solidify the edges better.

...Did Jones play some LT? I don't remember much of it if so. Paris Johnson held down the left side as I recall.

I think more reps where they are at will have better results in the short term (this season.) Preferably with somebody figuring out how to consistently motivate Jed/allow Jed to maintain internal motivation. I do think his issues are more of the yips variety than physical ability. I don't think switching sides would correct that but might just give him one more thing to get lost in his head about.

Kash, I think that ultimately happens. The question is: Is that an in season move or an off season move?
I think we keep the status quo through this season then they flip sides during the off season
Just my speculation

I have never understood the RT for a left handed Qb is the same as a LT for a right handed Qb.

Yes, both protect the blindside which is more important because the Qb cannot see the backside rush. However, technique is different. Everything is reversed. You move in opposite directions, 1st step is with the opposite foot, primary punch is with the opposite arm. You can learn to do both but switching should not be considered easy and the ability to do so should not be assumed. Many have been successful but as many or more have failed.

JMO

It's reversed but not different. Still only those with the best skill sets, mobility and footwork will play the OT positions. I certainly do agree with you that success certainly is not insured when you have to retrain a player to play in the opposite direction. Muscle memory is not always so easy to retrain.

But you will always play your most talented OT to protect your QB's blind side whether you have a right handed or left handed QB.

I think Wills will be here next year. Currently, I imagine they'll stay on the sides they are on. A lot can change in a year, though.

I also think Jones' "quick feet" are somewhat misleading. He's being described that way by lots of people. Yet, there's an important caveat that is easy to forget. He has quick feet for his size. We'll see how he holds up as teams get more film on him in this offense. He could keep holding up, but again, we'll see. Sample size still isn't that big for Jones at this level yet, and the line has been "exploited" elsewhere. If those issues get cleaned up, we'll have to see where the next "pressure point" is looked for.

If we're going to be mostly in shotgun, LT and RT distinctions are less important. There isn't as much of a blind side when the "vision cone" starts further back. In some ways, Jones actually creates blind spots with his size, so maybe the "backside"/LT will ultimately be his ideal position.

I also think there's a pretty good group of OTs supposed to be in this upcoming draft, so that will likely be a factor in who ends up where going forward.

Being something of a "mad scientist" type, I actually wouldn't be against moving OL around more so they don't develop a dominant side. That would have to start earlier than mid season and preferably at a lower level of football, though. Training "ambidextrous" OL would allow the offense to potentially exploit matchups in the trenches.

I think we've all played with those players that get advice, get talked to, are given patience, etc ... have a lot of talent ... but just don't have the fire

Njoku now questionable for tomorrow after suffering burns at home CBS is reporting!

sounds like he'll play

Watson out today with sore shoulder.

The restof the team decided to take the game off as well.

Our OL has gone from elite, to crap.