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I would get the late, great Hannibal Lecter to eat the shark if he weren't dead.


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Trump’s CEO Buddies Stunned by Bizarre Meeting With Him

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Trump met with at least 80 CEOs on Thursday to promise tax cuts and scaled-back business regulations if he’s elected president. Among those present were Apple CEO Tim Cook and the CEOs of JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and Bank of America. Trump spoke for about an hour, during which he rambled nonsensically, throwing off those in the room, according to sources who shared details of the meeting with CNBC.

“I spoke to a number of CEOs who I would say walked into the meeting being Trump supporter-ish, or thinking that they might be leaning that direction,” said CNBC’s Ross Sorkin. “[CEOs] said that he was remarkably meandering, could not keep a straight thought, was all over the map.”

Trump promised the CEOs to cut taxes and bring the federal corporate tax rate down from 21 percent to 20 percent, a lackluster attempt to elicit excitement from the suits. One attendee summarized Trump’s message as, “We’re going to give you more of the same for the next four years,” according to CNBC.

“These were people who, I think, might have been actually predisposed to him,” said Sorkin. “And [they] actually walked out of the room less predisposed to him, actually predisposed to thinking ‘This is not necessarily—’ as one person said, ‘this may not be any different or better than a Biden thought, if you’re thinking that way.’”

Trump also excitedly detailed to the corporate juggernauts his promise to eliminate taxes on worker tips—a questionable offer he stole from a Republican nominee for Senate and which, darkly, provoked laughter from the room full of CEOs.


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Forget policy for the moment.

The negative ads that run paint both trump and Biden as old.

If trump could lie about his birth certificate. He would.

Both face what age does. It is a matter of who can handle the job while dealing with age related issues.

I am 76. I face aging. I have taken cognitive tests. I have had a heart attack. I can look at both guys objectively from what I see from my own point of view.

I despise trump but I can still look at him objectively from what I see cognitively.

He cannot stay on track in conversation. His mind is jumping all over the place from one topic to another. Just listen to him and judge if he is making any sense.

Biden looks the part of aging. He has dealt with stuttering his whole life. He is 81. He moves like his age. He looks his age.

When I listen to him for the most part he stays on topic. When he gave his last address. He sounded on top of what he wanted to communicate.

It was so classless that trump and his goons suggested he was on drugs.

The VP's of both parties could take office during the next four years. I think it is an important factor for consideration.

The debate coming up should be interesting.

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Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test but confuses the name of the doctor who tested him

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump on Saturday night suggested President Joe Biden “should have to take a cognitive test," only to confuse who administered the test to him in the next sentence.

The former president and presumptive Republican nominee referred to Texas Republican Rep. Ronny Jackson, who was the White House physician for part of his presidency, as "Ronny Johnson.” The moment came as Trump was questioning Biden's mental acuity, something he often does on the campaign trail and social media.

“He doesn’t even know what the word ‘inflation’ means. I think he should take a cognitive test like I did," the former president said of Biden during a speech at a convention of Turning Point Action in Detroit.

Seconds later, he continued, “Doc Ronny Johnson. Does everyone know Ronny Johnson, congressman from Texas? He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history, so I liked him very much indeed immediately."

Jackson was elected to Congress in 2021 and is one of Trump's most vociferous defenders on Capitol Hill.

Trump, who turned 78 on Friday, has made questioning whether the 81-year-old Biden is up for a second term a centerpiece of his campaign. But online critics quickly seized on his Saturday night gaffe, with the Biden campaign — which has long fought off criticism about the Democratic president's verbal missteps — posting a clip of the moment minutes later.

Trump took the cognitive test in 2018 at his own request, Jackson told reporters at the time. The exam is designed to detect early signs of memory loss and other mild cognitive impairment.

The Montreal Cognitive Assessment that Trump took includes remembering a list of spoken words; listening to a list of random numbers and repeating them backward; naming as many words that begin with, say, the letter F as possible within a minute; accurately drawing a cube; and describing concrete ways that two objects — like a train and a bicycle — are alike.

Trump later said that he had to remember and accurately recite a list of words in order: “Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.”

During the same speech in Detroit, Trump also referenced a video clip widely circulated online in Republican circles where Biden is seen during the recently concluded Group of Seven summit in Italy watching skydivers land with flags from different nations.

A cropped version of the video shows Biden stepping away from the leaders, turning his back and walking in the other direction. He flashes a thumbs-up but it's not clear who he is gesturing to. A more complete angle of the same scene, however, shows that the president had turned to face a skydiver who has landed.

Trump nonetheless seized on the video clip, falsely describing Biden turning around "to look at trees," drawing laughter and hoots from the crowd.

The Biden campaign issued a statement dismissing the clip as misleadingly cropped and accusing those disseminating it as “tampering with the video to make up lies.”

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Aging isn't for the weak, That's for sure. I'm 72 and I feel it. If I had a choice younger than Biden, depending on who, I'd probably take it. I think it takes a younger person for the job. That is not to say that I don't like Biden, I do. But at 81, it's a tougher call. He like me has battled a bit of stuttering. I know what he went through. I can promise you that it doesn't get easier as you get older. Doesn't mean your dumb, but it can make you sound it. So I do feel for him a little.

Trumps age isn't hardly different than Bidens. So for me, that's not a factor., I wouldn't vote for Trump at all. NEVER. I've read where some of the CEO's that attended a fund raiser last week were dumbfounded by his blathering on and on. Not really saying anything. (they said that, not me) He was always a little scatter brained, but these days it seems worse then ever.

Kennedy isn't a choice at all. He's off the chains nutty. When your entire family say no to you, you have issues.


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If I had the stress of however many decades of malfeasance and thinking I was above the law lining up to each take a bite out of me, I'd probably struggle with my thoughts as well.


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I would vote for an amoeba over trump.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
I would vote for an amoeba over trump.
Sounds like that is going to be the choice you are given

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Originally Posted by FrankZ
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I would vote for an amoeba over trump.
Sounds like that is going to be the choice you are given

Shame on you, picking on a Kennedy like that.


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I would vote for an amoeba over trump.
Sounds like that is going to be the choice you are given

Shame on you, picking on a Kennedy like that.

We both know Kennedy isn't an actual choice.

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Neither are the other 2.

"Grandpa Joe" or "Don the Con"...

to paraphrase...

We don't need no insurrections, We don't need no convicted felons.


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
Neither are the other 2.

"Grandpa Joe" or "Don the Con"...

to paraphrase...

We don't need no insurrections, We don't need no convicted felons.

And shamefully those will be the only two choices given.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
Forget policy for the moment.

The negative ads that run paint both trump and Biden as old.

If trump could lie about his birth certificate. He would.

Both face what age does. It is a matter of who can handle the job while dealing with age related issues.

I am 76. I face aging. I have taken cognitive tests. I have had a heart attack. I can look at both guys objectively from what I see from my own point of view.

I despise trump but I can still look at him objectively from what I see cognitively.

He cannot stay on track in conversation. His mind is jumping all over the place from one topic to another. Just listen to him and judge if he is making any sense.

Biden looks the part of aging. He has dealt with stuttering his whole life. He is 81. He moves like his age. He looks his age.

When I listen to him for the most part he stays on topic. When he gave his last address. He sounded on top of what he wanted to communicate.

It was so classless that trump and his goons suggested he was on drugs.

The VP's of both parties could take office during the next four years. I think it is an important factor for consideration.

The debate coming up should be interesting.




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They there calling out president Biden's name and laughing at the end...


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
Neither are the other 2.

"Grandpa Joe" or "Don the Con"...

to paraphrase...

We don't need no insurrections, We don't need no convicted felons.

Actually, those two things, are both Trump


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Unfortunately that is the case.

I really believe there should be an age limit. Hard to pick a number because age impacts individuals differently.

I would not trust a cognitive test because I believe it would be a sham.

Actually I wish there was an Independent that would have a legit shot at winning the office if the policies were sound.

I am not thrilled about voting. However, trump should not be allowed to run and he would not have been able if the spineless Senate led by McConnell were truly patriots. They have proven to be nothing more than conniving hypocrites.

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Right-wing media outlets use deceptively cropped video to misleadingly claim Biden wandered off at G7 summit

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/poli...den-wandered-off-at-g7-summit/index.html


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Have you decided whether you plan to die by shark or electrocution yet? Trump has.


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Have you decided whether you plan to die by shark or electrocution yet? Trump has.

Hey, when you get old like Biden you have to get comfortable with the idea of death. Trump's just trying to provide his "rival" with some levity on the subject. rolleyes


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Originally Posted by bonefish
Unfortunately that is the case.

I really believe there should be an age limit. Hard to pick a number because age impacts individuals differently.

I would not trust a cognitive test because I believe it would be a sham.

Actually I wish there was an Independent that would have a legit shot at winning the office if the policies were sound.

I am not thrilled about voting. However, trump should not be allowed to run and he would not have been able if the spineless Senate led by McConnell were truly patriots. They have proven to be nothing more than conniving hypocrites.

Cutting eligibility off at 75 (~the average male life expectancy in the US [might actually be lower now]) feels like a pretty easy number to land on. Definitely could go lower. It just seems like it would be difficult to come up with a legitimate argument against life expectancy. Ruling out both the options we're being given sounds good to me for now.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Right-wing media outlets use deceptively cropped video to misleadingly claim Biden wandered off at G7 summit

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/14/poli...den-wandered-off-at-g7-summit/index.html






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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Unfortunately that is the case.

I really believe there should be an age limit. Hard to pick a number because age impacts individuals differently.

I would not trust a cognitive test because I believe it would be a sham.

Actually I wish there was an Independent that would have a legit shot at winning the office if the policies were sound.

I am not thrilled about voting. However, trump should not be allowed to run and he would not have been able if the spineless Senate led by McConnell were truly patriots. They have proven to be nothing more than conniving hypocrites.

Cutting eligibility off at 75 (~the average male life expectancy in the US [might actually be lower now]) feels like a pretty easy number to land on. Definitely could go lower. It just seems like it would be difficult to come up with a legitimate argument against life expectancy. Ruling out both the options we're being given sounds good to me for now.

There is and always has been a value to experience. At what age do we decide that experience isn't as important as Physical/mental Vitality?


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Cutting eligibility off at 75 (~the average male life expectancy in the US [might actually be lower now]) feels like a pretty easy number to land on. Definitely could go lower. It just seems like it would be difficult to come up with a legitimate argument against life expectancy. Ruling out both the options we're being given sounds good to me for now.

There is and always has been a value to experience. At what age do we decide that experience isn't as important as Physical/mental Vitality?

Experience is great. Unfortunately, at a certain point the ability to learn new things diminishes. In a president the ability to assimilate rapidly changing information from multiple sources and formulate a response is critical.

Age is great for advisors/mentors. The ability to read off a teleprompter doesn't necessarily translate to a crisis situation.

Throw in the optics/figurehead aspect. The leader of a country has an impact on how other countries interact with/approach that country. Having a leader that appears to be "slipping" can entice foreign entities to push boundaries.

As I said, the age that the average person dies at seems a pretty logical cut off. Earlier would probably be better, but 75 is pretty far past anyone's peak "fitness," mental and/or physical.

I'm not saying an older person couldn't do it. Yet, it seems likely that someone at a more optimal age could do it better. What that age is is certainly debatable. Does anyone think it's 80-something?

Having the person that could do it best be the person doing the job would seem to be ideal. Unfortunately, modern presidential politics seems to have focused on "policy"/"narratives" rather than ability to handle the duties of the office. Personally, leaving policy to the legislature and focusing on ability to "execute" in the executive branch would be more in line with how the system was designed.


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Both have shown issues like short term memory loss.

trump's brain cannot stay on topic. He is all over the place except for "repeating lies and egotistical self adorations."

There is more than cognitive decline and the dreaded 3:00 am crisis call. It is about daily feeling well enough to do the job.

Lots of physical issues come with age that have to do with stamina both physical and mental.

The 25th Amendment could come into play for both candidates. VP choice should be a major consideration for voters.

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Trying to pretend one is worse than the other in cognitive ability is ridiculous. They're both slipping and that is obvious. There isn't a good choice in this department.


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Biden is way worse. Only morons can't see it. He doesn't even know where he is most of the time. He is lost and doesn't know what he is supposed to be doing. He is a feeble demented elderly man who is not fit for office. Trump's rambling isn't old age, its just how he speaks, he rambles. Biden can't even talk without a teleprompter. Trump's rambling is because he doesn't use a canned speech.

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Cutting eligibility off at 75 (~the average male life expectancy in the US [might actually be lower now]) feels like a pretty easy number to land on. Definitely could go lower. It just seems like it would be difficult to come up with a legitimate argument against life expectancy. Ruling out both the options we're being given sounds good to me for now.

There is and always has been a value to experience. At what age do we decide that experience isn't as important as Physical/mental Vitality?

Experience is great. Unfortunately, at a certain point the ability to learn new things diminishes. In a president the ability to assimilate rapidly changing information from multiple sources and formulate a response is critical.

Age is great for advisors/mentors. The ability to read off a teleprompter doesn't necessarily translate to a crisis situation.

Throw in the optics/figurehead aspect. The leader of a country has an impact on how other countries interact with/approach that country. Having a leader that appears to be "slipping" can entice foreign entities to push boundaries.

As I said, the age that the average person dies at seems a pretty logical cut off. Earlier would probably be better, but 75 is pretty far past anyone's peak "fitness," mental and/or physical.

I'm not saying an older person couldn't do it. Yet, it seems likely that someone at a more optimal age could do it better. What that age is is certainly debatable. Does anyone think it's 80-something?

Having the person that could do it best be the person doing the job would seem to be ideal. Unfortunately, modern presidential politics seems to have focused on "policy"/"narratives" rather than ability to handle the duties of the office. Personally, leaving policy to the legislature and focusing on ability to "execute" in the executive branch would be more in line with how the system was designed.

Within the context of your post, go back and look at the G7 video, specifically when it pans across the group of leaders. One is not like the others.


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Only Gopers like trump make fun of others who have physical ailments and speech impediment's. Congratulations.


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He's either nutty as a fruitcake or a habitual liar which is also a mental issue. Take your pick.


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Take off your rose colored glasses.

He not only goes off topic continuously. He mumbles words like military. He loses context of space and time.

Leaders in the field of dementia and alzheimer's have been clear about it. His father had alzheimer's.

Don't lie to yourself you get enough of that from your media sources.

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Trying to pretend one is worse than the other in cognitive ability is ridiculous. They're both slipping and that is obvious. There isn't a good choice in this department.

Yes, they are both showing their age (/psychoses.) Yes, you and others have been ridiculous. Trump and Biden supporters are the ones trying to "pretend" that the other is worse. I keep saying that both are unacceptable to me, no need to compare. Neither would pass a low bar, let alone one that seems appropriate for the "leader of the free world."


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So you quoted my post to agree with it? You claimed I was being ridiculous while agreeing with exactly what I said. Have you considered a career in stand up comedy? My assertion all along has been that Biden is no worse than trump in this regard. I have shown examples of it to back up that assertion. If you're going to make that argument maybe you should try finding someone who disagrees with it first.

Now if you want to point to other issues where I've stated I believe that Biden is the lesser of the two evils in who to vote for, try approaching it that way. Because trying to claim that I attempted to make Biden sound better from a cognitive standpoint is just plain wrong. And all you have to do to see it is read the quote you used of mine.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So you quoted my post to agree with it? You claimed I was being ridiculous while agreeing with exactly what I said. Have you considered a career in stand up comedy? My assertion all along has been that Biden is no worse than trump in this regard. I have shown examples of it to back up that assertion. If you're going to make that argument maybe you should try finding someone who disagrees with it first.

Now if you want to point to other issues where I've stated I believe that Biden is the lesser of the two evils in who to vote for, try approaching it that way. Because trying to claim that I attempted to make Biden sound better from a cognitive standpoint is just plain wrong. And all you have to do to see it is read the quote you used of mine.

Even broken clocks are right a couple of times a day. I claimed you have been ridiculous, not that you were in that post. Comedy isn't really my thing. You're the comic, though it is more the inexplicably roll on the floor variety than stand up.

Examples of a negative? How does that work? Why are you even bothering to compare? "He's no worse" is about the dumbest assertion one can make when comparing candidates.

Both are unworthy of the office.

I wasn't making an argument. I was agreeing with you for once. It seems that you're so used to being wrong that you apparently saw it as an argument. Then you go making assertions anyone with an ounce of sense can see are horrible arguments.


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Trump and Biden supporters are the ones trying to "pretend" that the other is worse.

First your claim I was trying to pretend he was worse.

Now that you have fallen flat on that one you've changed it to......

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Why are you even bothering to compare? "He's no worse" is about the dumbest assertion one can make when comparing candidates.

Pick a lane man. It's like the old proverb about people in glass houses shouldn't throwing stones. That's what it's about. That's why I show that you can't throw shade on Biden when their candidate in no better. If you can't see that don't point the finger at others for being dumb.

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I keep saying that both are unacceptable to me, no need to compare. Neither would pass a low bar, let alone one that seems appropriate for the "leader of the free world."

And I keep saying from a cognitive standpoint the exact same thing you are. I know you love to try and flex some kind of superiority complex but you're the only one you seem to be fooling.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Trump and Biden supporters are the ones trying to "pretend" that the other is worse.

(1) First your claim I was trying to pretend he was worse.

Now that you have fallen flat on that one you've changed it to......

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Why are you even bothering to compare? "He's no worse" is about the dumbest assertion one can make when comparing candidates.

(2) Pick a lane man. It's like the old proverb about people in glass houses shouldn't throwing stones. That's what it's about. That's why I show that you can't throw shade on Biden when their candidate in no better. If you can't see that don't point the finger at others for being dumb.

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I keep saying that both are unacceptable to me, no need to compare. Neither would pass a low bar, let alone one that seems appropriate for the "leader of the free world."

(3) And I keep saying from a cognitive standpoint the exact same thing you are. I know you love to try and flex some kind of superiority complex but you're the only one you seem to be fooling.

1. Are you a Trump supporter pretending? Or a Biden supporter pretending? Once again you assume everything is about you. If you felt the statement fit you, there's probably a reason for that. You don't need to tell on yourself.

2. I didn't change an argument. I made another separate statement. I can "throw shade" on either candidate when either shows their shortcomings and lack of competence. I don't have a my candidate lane. I'm not in a candidate's glass house. I'm politically homeless. I do have several definitely not my candidate lanes. I hold a sign outside of either of their yards as feels appropriate. It's not about one being better. It's about both being unacceptable to me. On the other hand, some people seem quite used to and comfortable with making "bad" choices.

You do realize when you say no worse it's functionally equivalent to no better?

3. So you're also saying that neither should be president because both have cognitive issues now? Last I read you intended to vote for Biden.

I don't need to fool anybody or flex. My "shortcoming" might more be attempting to convince fools of anything. It's probably not worth it, but people definitely won't change if nobody tries. thumbsup


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