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All of this Sanders love reminds me of the teeny boppers going gaga over Brady Quinn.

I am not saying the guy can't be the "guy". I just think it a bit premature.

Kelly Holcomb, Charlie Frye, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Johnny Football, DTR.... do we count Cody Kessler & RG3?
I mean, the number of times there has been Late Spring Overreactions toward Browns QB's is just absolutely mind boggling, yet it still continues to happen.

But has the earth moved while watching any of them throw yet?


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What I noticed about Sanders, is the ball comes out low. I see many batted passes in his future


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I didn’t think Sanders could be the guy when he was a projected first rounder. At this point I’m just trying to figure out if he’s good enough to beat out Pickett or Gabriel for a roster spot.

At the end of the day, I think this front office is trying to win as many games as possible and will want Picketts experience over taking the time to develop TWO rookies. So, I really think the is a Flacco starter, Pickett back up and the only real competition is who to keep as the 3rd string development. It’s Sanders v Gabriel.

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Not sure Sanders is even decent trade bait after so many passovers in the draft. Finding a partner to move him might be a challenge. However, we don't need to get too much for him to make it a plus for us. Using him as part of a swap deal for a position we need more provokes some thought about options. Trading dad as well, I suspect.


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Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Not sure Sanders is even decent trade bait after so many passovers in the draft. Finding a partner to move him might be a challenge. However, we don't need to get too much for him to make it a plus for us. Using him as part of a swap deal for a position we need more provokes some thought about options. Trading dad as well, I suspect.

This makes me think that part of the plan may be to simply build up and show off Sanders and turn our 5th into like a 3rd or 2nd next year. Make him look good enough and some team will bite. Someone has a QB go down early every year.


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Listening to a few interviews, I think I agree with you, Purp. This "find" could help us if the pick is two or three rounds higher, maybe a working OL utility player. Or swap for a proven "tush push" specialist or a big WR. I want to see him when the NFL bullets are pressuring him. Waiting for reality. We don't need no steenkink controversy in the QB room.


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IMO Joe will start. I hope I'm wrong but to me none of the other 3 QB's we have will be anything more than mediocre and backups. Again, I hope I'm wrong and we can develop one.

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I think "develop" is they key here. I don't believe either of the two rookies can possibly be ready by the regular season and both will take time to develop if they are ever worthy of being NFL starters. I don't claim to have any idea if either of them can become NFL starters. Only time can answer that question.


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We drafted both rookies, so we will keep both.

I see us starting the season with 4 QBs on the roster. If and when one of them shows enough to get a nod, we release one of Pickett or Flacco.

My guess is we will release Flacco. He has the shortest shelf life. No matter how it works out I don't see any way we would keep Joe heading in to next season. Both Joe and the Browns know that Joe is a short term rental. I see Joe being released around week 5.

Pickett on the other hand is a guy who has his flaws, but in the world of back-up NFL QB's Pickett is pretty serviceable.


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I'm with you on the rookies, but I think it will be Pickett released. Flacco is a bridge and he knows the system. He has also been effective in it. I think he's our day 1 starter.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
We drafted both rookies, so we will keep both.

I see us starting the season with 4 QBs on the roster. If and when one of them shows enough to get a nod, we release one of Pickett or Flacco.

My guess is we will release Flacco. He has the shortest shelf life. No matter how it works out I don't see any way we would keep Joe heading in to next season. Both Joe and the Browns know that Joe is a short term rental. I see Joe being released around week 5.

Pickett on the other hand is a guy who has his flaws, but in the world of back-up NFL QB's Pickett is pretty serviceable.

I think Flacco is a known quantity with an equally well-known shelf life. I think Pickett COULD prove that he's everything his detractors say he is. If that's the case, he brings nothing to the table.


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I find this whole Cleveland quarterback room fascinating. None of these quarterbacks was ever a sure thing. Sanders has the most potential of the group but the odds are slim even if drafted in the first or second round.

I envision a repeat of 2023, where the Browns used five quarterbacks throughout the season. The difference this year is that it is controlled.

I agree with Peen. I think they release Flacco. Joe is insurance if Pickett isn't reliable.

I believe the goal is to build an offense similar to the one the Steelers or 49ers have had over the past decade. Nothing fancy, get to the playoffs hoping for a little luck.

Keep drafting quarterbacks until you find the guy. Meanwhile, become a producer of reliable quarterbacks that other teams will trade for. Use Kyle Shanahan's method of developing quarterbacks.

Take the focus off finding the franchise quarterback, and develop the overall team. It is not a crime to have the best defense in the league. Build the best 12 and 13-personnel offensive scheme. There are but one or two teams capable of defending against it.

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