DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk 2025 NFL Draft 5th Round Pick: Sheuder Sanders

But has the earth moved while watching any of them throw yet?

What I noticed about Sanders, is the ball comes out low. I see many batted passes in his future

I didn’t think Sanders could be the guy when he was a projected first rounder. At this point I’m just trying to figure out if he’s good enough to beat out Pickett or Gabriel for a roster spot.

At the end of the day, I think this front office is trying to win as many games as possible and will want Picketts experience over taking the time to develop TWO rookies. So, I really think the is a Flacco starter, Pickett back up and the only real competition is who to keep as the 3rd string development. It’s Sanders v Gabriel.

Not sure Sanders is even decent trade bait after so many passovers in the draft. Finding a partner to move him might be a challenge. However, we don't need to get too much for him to make it a plus for us. Using him as part of a swap deal for a position we need more provokes some thought about options. Trading dad as well, I suspect.

This makes me think that part of the plan may be to simply build up and show off Sanders and turn our 5th into like a 3rd or 2nd next year. Make him look good enough and some team will bite. Someone has a QB go down early every year.

Listening to a few interviews, I think I agree with you, Purp. This "find" could help us if the pick is two or three rounds higher, maybe a working OL utility player. Or swap for a proven "tush push" specialist or a big WR. I want to see him when the NFL bullets are pressuring him. Waiting for reality. We don't need no steenkink controversy in the QB room.

IMO Joe will start. I hope I'm wrong but to me none of the other 3 QB's we have will be anything more than mediocre and backups. Again, I hope I'm wrong and we can develop one.

I think "develop" is they key here. I don't believe either of the two rookies can possibly be ready by the regular season and both will take time to develop if they are ever worthy of being NFL starters. I don't claim to have any idea if either of them can become NFL starters. Only time can answer that question.

We drafted both rookies, so we will keep both.

I see us starting the season with 4 QBs on the roster. If and when one of them shows enough to get a nod, we release one of Pickett or Flacco.

My guess is we will release Flacco. He has the shortest shelf life. No matter how it works out I don't see any way we would keep Joe heading in to next season. Both Joe and the Browns know that Joe is a short term rental. I see Joe being released around week 5.

Pickett on the other hand is a guy who has his flaws, but in the world of back-up NFL QB's Pickett is pretty serviceable.

I'm with you on the rookies, but I think it will be Pickett released. Flacco is a bridge and he knows the system. He has also been effective in it. I think he's our day 1 starter.

I think Flacco is a known quantity with an equally well-known shelf life. I think Pickett COULD prove that he's everything his detractors say he is. If that's the case, he brings nothing to the table.

I find this whole Cleveland quarterback room fascinating. None of these quarterbacks was ever a sure thing. Sanders has the most potential of the group but the odds are slim even if drafted in the first or second round.

I envision a repeat of 2023, where the Browns used five quarterbacks throughout the season. The difference this year is that it is controlled.

I agree with Peen. I think they release Flacco. Joe is insurance if Pickett isn't reliable.

I believe the goal is to build an offense similar to the one the Steelers or 49ers have had over the past decade. Nothing fancy, get to the playoffs hoping for a little luck.

Keep drafting quarterbacks until you find the guy. Meanwhile, become a producer of reliable quarterbacks that other teams will trade for. Use Kyle Shanahan's method of developing quarterbacks.

Take the focus off finding the franchise quarterback, and develop the overall team. It is not a crime to have the best defense in the league. Build the best 12 and 13-personnel offensive scheme. There are but one or two teams capable of defending against it.

I hope Joe can start and has enough in his tank left to compete without giving games away with picks, fumbles, and the like. If his shelf life can put up some points, then the D might sneak in a few wins. It will demand that badassery" replace last season's "halfassery" this year. Love to get back to some offensive authority. I am ready for some football!

One thing I think is worth considering is that Flacco still has enough arm to throw the ball deep. If opposing D's are forced to respect the deep ball it lessens their ability to stop the run game and short pass. If you can stretch out their D it's always to your advantage.

I share that notion. One real concern I have with all these QB's is their ability not to take sacks, as we saw way too often from our starters. Trying to throw out of trouble in a panic really stropped our D. Eliminating these could easily make this a real strength. Sacks, strips, strip 6's, picks, and other drive killers could really extend more drives into scoring opportunities.

I think this is pretty much it. Pickett is a gamble on upside and maybe's and while we traded for him we only gave up DTR and a 5th this past April. DTR was definitely NOT in our plans, so we basically just gave up a 5th to see if a change of scenery improves his fortunes. Flacco is the solid #1 until someone takes it from him. Pickett is the #2 until/unless he takes a leap forward and takes the job from Flacco.... best case, he does and we have someone better than Flacco. Worst case, he's who he was in Pittsburgh and he's the backup who goes in and allows both rookies to stay on the bench.
Both rookies will stay until/unless someone trades for one of them.... I expect us to try to make one of them look really good in preseason.

I think Joe will start the season. We agree on that.

Unless someone totally sucks, we start the season with 4QBs on the roster. I am assuming Watson gets IR'd.

Joe has no value after this season. Pickett does as a long term back-up.

Sure, if he totally sucks.

I think Pickett is as good as Colt McCoy or Jacoby. Both have had long careers as back up QB's. I think Pickett does bring something if you scale back the expectations and think of him as a good back-up, if he can't indeed be a good starter.

Don't be surprised to see somebody traded before the season starts OR somebody *cough* *cough* get's injured and goes on IR *cough* *cough*

I won’t be surprised, or perhaps I will be. You’ve got a cough today, is it chronic?
😂

Lamp, should we hope it is catching as well as chronic?

It's that Canadian wildfire smoke. Thanks Lamp.

JC... There is a bunch of Crazy rumors going around... Anything from Pickett getting traded or Sanders or ever Gabrial all being traded. Wow.

Myself, I do think one will be traded...Which one, I've no idea.

My gut tells me we’d put one on the PS and keep the other three, unless a team loses a starter in camp and comes calling for a vet .

The PS seems feasible. Trading one is believable. Would you trade two?

No I don’t think we will bard. But I don’t know, I believe Flacco will be our starter week one

I picked Flacco as well. Potential is here for us to package a four QB offense. Problematic. Run and shoot by committee.

I can't see four active, but it's us.

j/c...

Shadeur taking a page out of the Myles Garrett school of driving.

He’s young, made a dumb decision to drive 101. Hopefully he won’t make too many dumb decisions.

Wow that's the maturity I'm expecting out of a 5th RD QB in a comp battle.
I guess he didn't pay attention to what happened to Henry Ruggs 4 years ago.
Here's the thing . He has the " I'm bulletproof and indestructible " mindset
What would have happened if a deer ran in front of his car ?
Million dollar contract and horse manure for brains .
Can't wait to hear the typical " im remorseful for my actions
And will promise to take the steps nessacary to be a more responsible
Person... BS " press release.
You can only imagine how many tickets he got out of in Boulder
Cause of his name . If the Browns were smart they'd cut him just
To make a example out of him.
But they wont . They love drafting immature QBs.

I agree, it isn't a good look. Any simpleton knows driving that fast isn't going to end well.

WOW that's the kind of comment somebody makes that never made any mistakes in life. Congrats of being perfect stripper.



as do 90 to 95 percent of young men in their teens and 20's

It's possible the accelerator got stuck. It happens!

I like Sanders and I think in 2025 he is the only hope for the future of the QB position. Driving like that is a decision and a bad decision. If you want to be QB1 it starts with good decision making on and off the field.

Generally, our perceptions of how bothered/offended/incensed we are in situations like this is directly correlated to our opinions about the player that were previously formed.

Many will think it shows a major character issue, others will pass it off as routine youthful indiscretion.

I am guessing if he turns out to be even a quality NFL starter, this will be ancient history. If he fails, it will confirm his attitude or entitlement issues we may now hold to be ture.

I will let it ride and see what happens.

FWIW, the stories about his pre-draft interviews give me more pause than speeding. The selective pearl-clutching is comical.

As some have already stated, kids make mistakes. It could have ended badly but let me know when he pulls a "Ray Ray Lewis".

In the grand scheme of things this is just a careless mistake in his youth. Most of us made decisions that would qualify in the same way.

It's not like he committed sexual assault or anything. That may have elevated him to starter status.

Two tickets in two weeks and not showing up for court up the ante substantially.