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The part in bold makes it pretty self explanatory.

I feel like too many people put too much stock, positive and negative, in the predictive merit of a player’s draft position. Each one of these guys is an individual player with a story for why they got drafted where they did. There’s certainly some “wisdom of the crowd”, players drafted earlier show up as starters more often than those drafted later, but there’s also group think and sometimes some traits get over valued which leads to other traits getting overlooked.

I’m not an idiot, I know physical attributes matter a great deal in this game but what’s between the ears matters more to the QB position than just about any other in major sports. I don’t know if Gabriel washes out because his body just can clear the bar but when I look at his consistency and productivity in different environments, all against elite competition, I think that’s the kind of head-set that excites me. I totally understand why he dropped and I know I have a typical Brownsian wishful thinking but I’m very excited to see this kid in action. I love an underdog!

So far it doesn’t look exactly promising Probably another valuable draft pick that’s flushing down the drain because of poor scouting.
Hight matters.

Height may matter but other QB's Dillon's size have done decently. Let's give him every opportunity and then we can make our evaluations. Same with Shadeur and KP. They all deserve a fair shot.

I've heard ppl say that Gabriel was drafted because he fits the mold of a KS type QB --- accurate, smart, on time, etc. But so far, the reports from camp don't seem to say that same thing

IMO, KS has had the most success with bigger, pocket type QBs who can be accurate and push the ball down the field off PA

He had a couple of bad practices so he's already claiming it's wasted draft pick. It's a case of having crystal balls.

Maybe a trip to the urologist is in order?

I avoid giving others medical advice other than "Maybe you should see a doctor about that."

He has similar height as Kyler Murray but without the foot works and speed.
He will never be a franchise QB, at best a back up, you can all quote me on that.

What’s Stefanski’s type?

Baker seems to do fine with almost all his coaches when healthy.
Same with Kirk Cousins.
Deshaun got significantly worse with Ski.
Flacco arrived as a senior QB who had already won a SB. Another one who probably took care of himself.
The rest must be labeled as failures…

So what kind of success do we talk about?

my only rebuttal would be that Brissett had a career type year (or half year or whatever) with KS

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO


Get with the program. Our third round pick is a 1,000,000 percent bust because he has not been elected to the HOF yet before his first pre season snap. Don't you get it.

Absolutely and there have been small improvements with almost every QB but there has also been setbacks and in some cases a clear stagnation.

It seems like he’s good with some of the technical aspects and creating schemes but looking at him on the sideline or on the training ground I have serious doubts about his human management, motivation skills and communication ability.

He failed totally in the end with both Baker and Deshaun.

It got to the point where all communication died.

It’s easy to always blame the players but when a relationship gets totally broken then the person with the most power has the ultimate responsibility to make sure that the communication continues one way or another.

It’s a huge red flag for me to me when a coach is involved in abrupt broken relationships with several star players in such a short time. How you break up is also a testament of your leadership.