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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Along the lines of Malik Willis, I think a better low-cost option would be to watch closely what's going on with Justin Fields. I believe he's under contract for 2026, but there's chatter around them shaking things up in the QB room.

I could be wrong, but my assumption is it would end up costing less to get Fields in here than it would to get Willis.

I agree! Fields seems like a Monken guy... No on has been able to get much out of him, but Monken has done well with Jackson, so I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do.

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Check the NFL QB rankings, Gabriel slightly higher than Sanders overall, both are NO good starters. Watson, with all his baggage, is our best QB hands down.....if healthy. We have to pay him, he's best bridge to next years QBs.

Check out the big chunk plays for the Browns last year? Who was QB? That is where he flashed. Gabriel showed absolutely nothing.


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While Sanders has shown a great ability to throw more int's than td's. But I agree that neither one are the answer at QB.

Sanders did not play well at QB. But he flashed some ability to make a play. Gabriel showed nothing. Neither QB proved they were the answer. Sanders just showed with some work he has some ability. How much TBD.

I didn't mention Gabriel but okay. Being able to "make plays" doesn't really help when one of your glaring "abilities" is throwing int's.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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While Sanders has shown a great ability to throw more int's than td's. But I agree that neither one are the answer at QB.

Sanders did not play well at QB. But he flashed some ability to make a play. Gabriel showed nothing. Neither QB proved they were the answer. Sanders just showed with some work he has some ability. How much TBD.

I didn't mention Gabriel but okay. Being able to "make plays" doesn't really help when one of your glaring "abilities" is throwing int's.

I did not say he played well. The bar was not set high, but he just showed much more promise than Gabriel. There was a reason the Browns requested Sanders to come back to the facility when Monken arrived and not Gabriel. Even with that said if he did prove he was the future starter you would not hear chatter about Willis possibly being an option. I would not rule out the possibility that the Browns would not take a swing at the Alabama QB Ty Simpson if he fell to #24. Garret Nussmeier is also a name on the rise with scouts. He had a very good senior bowl week and if he performs next week at the combine, he may end up the 3rd 1st round QB this year.

When the best QB on your roster is Sanders or Watson your GM/Coach will explore all options. I think if they explore an option outside of just drafting someone mid rounds they will go after Willis because his acquisition if he did not meet expectations would not prevent the Browns from drafting a QB in 2027 if they were in position to do so. If they spent a 1st this year it begins to get to be a harder conversation to draft another 1st a year later.


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I kinda disagree. He has good tape out there. He's no world-beater... but he's done some good things (he had a stretch where he was basically the entirety of the Bears offense). Overall, he hasn't been able to put it together to be a cog in a winning O, but he brings an element that I think Monken would utilize well.

He may not end up as good as Willis, but he's more of a known quantity and I believe he'll be significantly easier to bring here. I'd much rather do that then pay a guy with single-digit starts.


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Once again I did not mention Gabriel. notallthere


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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While Sanders has shown a great ability to throw more int's than td's. But I agree that neither one are the answer at QB.

Sanders did not play well at QB. But he flashed some ability to make a play. Gabriel showed nothing. Neither QB proved they were the answer. Sanders just showed with some work he has some ability. How much TBD.

I didn't mention Gabriel but okay. Being able to "make plays" doesn't really help when one of your glaring "abilities" is throwing int's.

I did not say he played well. The bar was not set high, but he just showed much more promise than Gabriel. There was a reason the Browns requested Sanders to come back to the facility when Monken arrived and not Gabriel. Even with that said if he did prove he was the future starter you would not hear chatter about Willis possibly being an option. I would not rule out the possibility that the Browns would not take a swing at the Alabama QB Ty Simpson if he fell to #24. Garret Nussmeier is also a name on the rise with scouts. He had a very good senior bowl week and if he performs next week at the combine, he may end up the 3rd 1st round QB this year.

When the best QB on your roster is Sanders or Watson your GM/Coach will explore all options. I think if they explore an option outside of just drafting someone mid rounds they will go after Willis because his acquisition if he did not meet expectations would not prevent the Browns from drafting a QB in 2027 if they were in position to do so. If they spent a 1st this year it begins to get to be a harder conversation to draft another 1st a year later.

I'm not sold there will be a second 1st round QB this year. I don't think Simpson has shown even close enough to rate him a second rounder, let alone a first rounder. I know QBs tend to be over selected, but if he won't be a starter in 2028, let alone 26-27. First rounders are those that will have a short learning curve... Even though everyone that talks CLE football thinks a 5th rounder should look like a franchise QB after a half of a season.

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Maybe that's not it? Maybe they fully understand that NFL history dictates to get a dynamic QB in the fifth round or later is a once in a generation event and the odds dictate that it's almost impossible to draft a 5th round QB that will ever be "the guy.


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The one thing Gabriel did better was this .. each guybthrew 7 TD, but Sanders had 10 INT, whereas Gabriel had only 2.

Neither guy is the long term starter IMHO.


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Jake Burns studies a lot of film.

Here is his take of Malik Willis.


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