Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by FATE
Yes please on Harrison. He has played waaay below his potential.

41 for 608 while only playing 9 games with more than three targets in '25.

Cards were 23rd passing. Harrison with 5 catches in tight windows, ranking 5th in the NFL in those high-leverage situations.


He needs a change of scenery. 6'3" / 220 with world-class speed... sign me up.

If the report is true, I'm guessing Berry is trying to gauge the market to buy low on Harrison, like he did with Cooper and Juedy. Here is my issue with Harrison- I grant him the fact he had Kyler Murray at QB early on in his career, but I really didn't see much of a change once Brissett started playing, unlike Trey McBride. I haven't looked at the full comparison and I know there were some games Harrison was out that made McBride look better but, hell, Michael Wilson was the leading WR in yards, TDs, yards per game, YAC, and overall targets.

There were reports going into 2025 that Harrison deliberately put on a little extra weight (to be better at ball contesting and leverage) and that might have made him slower....I don't know. He has been VERY disappointing so far.

I'd have a hard time arguing with that. The facts are the facts.

I think we became pretty spoiled over the last few years and have forgotten that everyone is not a Ja'Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson. Harrison is measured as generational talent because that's what he was drafted as. We tend to forget that most WRs breakout in year three.

He has all the tools. If I could grab him with a 2nd round pick I would see that as less risk, and actual higher certainty, than most players available in the draft. Especially when you consider those "sure things" require a 1st round pick, and in most cases, actually have a lower ceiling if outside the top ten.

WR feels like one of the positions that takes time to fully adjust to from college. Travis Hunter sucked until he got injured. McMillan was decent but sporadic in production, Egbuka started off strong but faded away like a fart in the wind, Golden didn't do [censored], Higgins was meh, Burden came on at the end of the season. My problem is, out of all of those guys listed, they all looked better than Harrison's rookie year, at least to me. Minus Golden, maybe. That's my concern.... he's in year three and doesn't have much of a resume compared to the ones that came after. I won't even get into the WRs that were drafted after him in 2024.


2nd round is too much for my blood. A 4th with incentives that make it higher based on production in the following year's draft.

I agree with you, with the better teams it definitely takes 2-4 years for WRs to show on the stat sheet. But circumstances dictate it as much as talent does.

a) They've already made public comments that Travis Hunter will be exclusively on defense, with possibly a couple of special plays on offense. That experiment didn't last long.
b) Egbuka came on strong when the Buccs two best WRs went down to injury. His production started to drop week 11. Chris Godwin game back week 11 and Mike Evans came back week 14. The Buccs saw enough that they are letting Evans go in free agency rather than signing him to his final contract to retire a Buccaneer.
c) Golden was drafted into a perfect situation, for Green Bay fans anyway. They are loaded with a talented WR room consisting of Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs and Jayden Reed, all veterans with 3 or more years experience. Doubs is a free agent this year and Watson is a free agent next year. Green Bay just did what good teams do, they reload BEFORE the cupboard is empty.
d) Jayden Higgins was drafted to a team with Nico Collins, Christian Kirk and Tank Dell on it... over 550 yds and 6 TDs is pretty damn good
e) Luther Burden, again was drafted to a team that had DJ Moore and Rome Odunze, as well as drafting what turned out to be one of the top TEs in the league in Colsten Loveland before him. Still he managed 652 yds and 2 TDs.

Harrison actually had 885 yds and 8 TDs his rookie year.. he regressed in 2025 with QB issues, but aside from Tet McMillan, none of them had the rookie year Harrison did.

As for Olave, he has been a bright mark on an otherwise meh team since he joined the NFL.

I would take either of these veterans for a 2nd round pick. Obviously I would rather make a trade with a 4th, moving up with incentives in 2027, but I don't think either team is going to do that. If you gave a 2nd for one of these two, it would give you more reason to trade down at #6.. probably getting at the very least a second round pick back. More likely, move several spots and get a 2027 first AND another second either this year or next.

As for rookies, I think the only one in this draft that isn't going to need that adjustment is Tate. All others will look like #2 or #3 WRs their rookie year I believe. Some will be drafted by teams that they really are #2 or #3 receivers, others will just need that adjustment period to become better players in the NFL. Personally, I think Desmond Boston will also adjust to the NFL faster than the others, but not the same level as Tate.

Carnell Tate and Jordyn Tyson are both outside receivers. Makai Lemon is a slot receiver. Many experts believe that if the Browns draft Lemon, then Monken would see Lemon as Zay Flowers that plays the slot in Baltimore. If they really want to overhaul the receiving core in 1 year, they could trade a 2nd round pick for Harrison or Olave for the outside to pair with Jeudy and draft Lemon with the 6th pick or small trade down and draft Lemon getting maybe a 2nd back in return. That would leave Bond as the designated deep threat and demoting Tillman down to the 5 to battle for a roster spot with Gage and a few others.


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