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I didn't know that Bone thanks. I feel the same way. If TM and AB like him then draft him. I don't know how he will turn out. Hopefully a franchise QB if we draft him!!!

I am missing something on this whole first round grade for Simpson. I think the talking heads have convinced themselves that there has to be more than one QB… similar to Sanders last year.

Alabama didn’t have a better option come in through the portal, so the guy who has been there for 4 years got the nod. He led them to a playoff, but they shouldn’t have even gotten in to begin with. Their past reputation got them style points. He was a mediocre QB on a storied college program… with a bad back…

He might still be available at pick 70….

That could be true, whether it was genuine by them or not. The hard truth is, if every team has a first round grade on him, then he will be a top ten draft pick. QBs are on a different level of being over drafted. If this is factual, he will be long gone by our second pick… in fact he should be gone before our first one.

My contention is, if he goes anywhere after the 20th pick, he has a second round grade on him. Teams give out round grades and most of them don't have 20 first round graded players. They don't make the cutoff at the 32nd player on their board. If a QB shows a strong probability to be a first or second year starter with high ceiling, they are a first round grade and are typically taken in the top 5 picks. If a player has a possibility of being a starter by their 3rd year, but you can't really pinpoint a ceiling, they are typically second round or lower grades. Doesn't mean they will last to the second round. Teams looking for a project behind their aging veteran are looking for these types of players because they are usually nowhere near the top ten in order to draft one.

Any QB taken outside the top ten.. there is a really good probability whoever drafts them has not found their guy. Obviously anyone can come up with examples, but for every example over the past 20 years, you can come up with ten more that didn't make it in the top two rounds. 10% chance is not great odds.

You are drafted where teams have you listed on their draft boards. That's how you're graded. Phrase it any way you like, but you are drafted according to position and grade.

Even QB's drafted in the top 10 don't have a high success rate. A better success rate? Yes, somewhat higher. But then again all top 10 drafted players at every position have a higher success rate so your point seems moot.

The point is in the evaluation which is related to where QBs are historically drafted, unlike EVERY position. QBs are over drafted at a significantly higher rate than any other position and it isn’t close. Yes, I agree you have failures at every position, but the further away from #1 overall, the failure rates of QBs climbs a great deal.

All I’m saying is, if Simpson is drafted outside the top ten, most teams do Not see him as a high ceiling prospect. If you have any team that doesn’t currently have a top ten ranked QB, give him a high ceiling grade, they will find a way into the top ten, if not the top 5. If it isn’t a high ceiling, why do it?

I think you are confusing "high ceiling prospect" means. There is a difference between elite grade and high ceiling grade. And I repeat, all teams use need as a metric in setting their draft board.

And can you please tell me of any position where the further you get away from the #1 overall pick the overall failure rate doesn't climb a great deal? That's holds true for every position in the NFL.

You do realize that a players ranking in the draft is set by how good they are at the position, right? And those players rated the best at their positions get drafted first and it goes down from there, right?