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Agreed !! Looking forward to this. I love Monken's abrasive or "direct" personality as we've witnessed so far. He wasn't my choice for HC but I have warmed to him considerably.

Obviously a sustained (18-24 months) of losing and looking inept on Sundays will test him and it would be more difficult to maintain that persona in the face of perceived failure - but I honestly think we'll finally see players held accountable for their play - think of how OBJ didn't know where to line up, think of the drops from Jeudy and multiple receivers, think of the bone headed ST and Defensive plays we've made at odd times ... and think of how bland response was, while the team also tried to spin a narrative of tough and accountability that never materialized..

I feel the same way. I liked KS but he seemed too easy on the players and coaches. I don't know what went on behind the scenes and I feel he is a good coach but he didn't seem to hold anyone accountable for mistakes. Monken will from what I've seen so far. It's probably just what this team needs.

Yep he is in your face, do your job or sit!!!

I still find statements like this quite odd. All we know is what Stefanski let us see. You nor anyone else knows what went on behind closed doors. One thing for sure. Any HC who is castigating their players in public and airing their teams dirty laundry in that way isn't fit to be an NFL HC.

Well, I expect no "Camp Cupcake" this year. Any input as to what Camp Monken may look like or his practice priorities we might see?

You don't have to castigate a player publicly to hold them accountable. After the 2nd or 3rd time a guy doesn't know where to line up, he sits on the sideline and the WR coach talks to him about where he needed to be and find out why he didn't know the play. After the player repeats a transgression - you sit him for a play or a series. None of us know what was going on in practice or behind the scenes but based on the platitudes in front of the press and the lack of any change on the field of play .... you can draw conclusions. Also I am pretty certain that players made comments at the season after his release that indicated something similar.

I don't think it will look all that different physicality-wise. The rules are what the rules are now.

Shedeur isn't good enough to displace a healthy Watson, even if Watson is playing as poorly as he has since arriving here.
Watson, I hate to say, will almost definitely be QB1 to start the season.

I am ok with this (Watson starting out the gate).

With all the change and the rookies inevitably being thrust into starting roles straight out the gate I don't expect this offense to click for a while. Ignoring everything else, the roster alone will take longer than one offseason to "fix". I'm more than happy for Watson to absorb those early starts while the offense struggles to get its feet under it.

The bazaar scenario that may unfold is that after all this nonsense with Watson he may end up starting for us and help us become a winner this season. Only the Browns LOL😂

I think Watson being QB1 while things are being installed makes sense. With Shedeur's quote on learning and teaching, I do wonder if he's more of a back yarder than an on his p's and q's type. Reactionary more than in command, and focused more on himself than knowing everyone else's assignments. Watson on the other hand has been around the block with multiple offenses. Watson is probably more likely to help get everyone else up to speed more quickly.

Sanders started taking #1 reps, he Watson more or less took over.

To me that means that Shedufus was having a hard time picking up the O. I feel that way based on the reports that Stefanski had to spend hours of one on one tutoring with Sanders throughout the season.

Monken isn't going to do that. Shedufus better get in to the playbook and pay attention in meetings.

Whether anyone wants to accept it or not Watson may still be a decent starting QB. His legal issues are now behind him and he's over his injuries. It doesn't mean he can't get hurt again and an Achilles injury is difficult to recover from. He still has the knowledge and experience to play QB in this league, but it will probably take some time to get back up to speed. I like Shedeur and hope he's good enough to be our QB and does well but it's conceivable DW may be just what we need for the present.

Well it only makes sense that he will show what he can really do. I men after all it's a contract year. He's auditioning for the other 31 NFL teams and his future depends on it.

He never wanted to come here in the first place. He never wanted to be here. He had a no trade clause and after their initial offer he actually excluded the Browns from the list of teams he was willing to go to. Only when they backed up the Brinks truck did he finally agree to come here. But it's not because this is where he wanted to be. It's because the money was so much he felt he couldn't turn it down. He made that clear from the start and it showed.

This year is different because he won't be playing for the Browns. He'll be playing for himself.

I agree unfortunately.

The fact I can't stand Watson the person and do not want him any where near my young QB room, doesn't change the facts. Facts are he was the 12th over all pick of the Texans, he led the entire NFL in passing yards for a year and he was a very promising QB based on all of his physical traits.

The other facts are, he quit on his team, he had 25+ accusations that he paid money to to go away and he has not tried very hard while being in Cleveland, even when he wasn't hurt. He made a statement that he didn't want to play in Cleveland and turned down offers that were equal to other teams and only came here when the Browns came back to the table and kept raising the stakes to the point where any human being, even an evil one could not say no.

Now, fast forward 4 years. Watson is now in a conundrum or sorts. He is in the last year of his guaranteed contract with the Browns and he wants to score big again. So now, he finally cares enough to get off his butt and compete like he did the year he led the league. I don't think Shedeur Sanders can compete with that.

Monken doesn't care who is starting games as long as they are the best player to help him win.

For all purposes of this argument, we should all allow for the facts that Watson was/is the best "prospect" on this team based on proven past. It isn't like we signed a guy that was really good in his 20's and now he's in his 40's.. Watson is 30. I get that he has been injured for 2 years and they were legitimate injuries, but he should have been healthy last year, not this year. If he wants another contract, I wouldn't put it past him to take advantage of the Browns slow playing his return so they could get this insurance money and getting back into football shape in the process to go this last year and show teams in free agency he deserves another really big contract. Not only that, but he now has the tools to go get that contract. He has a loaded offense.

At the end of the day, this will be his last year in Cleveland, even if he is an All Pro this season and leads the Browns to the AFC Championship game. He did his time for signing the contract and now he is going to want out of Cleveland, he never wanted to be here in the first place.

For what it's worth, there isn't another QB on this team that I have complete faith in that they have the tools to lead this team back to the playoffs... frankly, I'm ready to watch some playoff football. We are signing a deal with the devil so that he can sign another soul wrenching contract away from us, but give me one year of great football and I will hate that trade just a little less.

Nothing that Sanders has done to lead up to this point says that he should be the automatic starter for Cleveland. As much as I want to believe he is the future and we need to nurture that, there are very little indicators that prove he can be anything more than a below average starter at this point. Don't get me started on Green... I love the enthusiasm, I love the athleticism, I love the potential he brings doing things no other QB has ever done entering the league, but he has shown nothing on film to date that translates directly to the NFL. I want him to be a generational player that changes the game forever, but as a rookie coming in, that just doesn't happen. I hope they give him enough leeway to stay around for the season and see how his skill set progresses. I also hope they can get a good group of plays to utilize him in real game situations to see how he reacts.

I also think Gabriel may be getting the raw end of the deal. No rookie QB comes in and becomes a pro bowler immediately... well except Sanders somehow, lol. But, with the regime change and everything, he is probably never going to even get the chance to develop. Maybe everyone can win and he showed SOMEONE, ANYONE enough to give the Browns a 5th or 6th rounder and he still gets that chance. More likely though, he gets put on someone's practice squad and we never see him in a live game again.

For now, Monken wants to get off to a fast start. He has enough to deal with installing two rookie wide receivers and installing a new offense. Watson is more likely the easiest avenue to get up and running quickly. I would be surprised if he isn't the starter going into training camp.