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ya know, i was just reading a few sites catching up on the rest of the leagues signings- it is listed several times as a 3rd round pick. So i guess we won't know for sure until its posted by the Browns.
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Some people still don't realize that the dream of trading DA for a 1st rounder is dead, because of the 12 million cap hit it would cost. If you don't understand the cap it can be confusing I guess.
So to end further ???s about DA being traded..............
1. DA was signed for 12 million guaranteed.........
2. If we trade DA get's traded then we take ALL of the 12 million cap hit this year.
3. This eliminates any scenerio where DA isn't a Brown this year
DA isn't getting traded, and he will be the QB come game 1. Now will he stay that way is the big ???.
Not To pee an your or anyones parade. But DA's bonus does not kick in until April 
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Wow! Williams is the guy I wanted in FA. I really like this trade. I doubt a second rounder could provide the impact he can. He is a strong guy w/great burst out of his stance. I like the fact that he can create double teams but he can also blow by guys and be very disruptive. Unlike many of you, I hope he plays the Nose. I think he can be very disruptive there. Teams will have to double him unless they want him in the backfield. This will open up opportunities for other guys. When they don't double him, Williams will make plays. Great job, Phil. You are on a roll! 
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Maybe I missed it in all the clamor but I haven't seen this trade confirmed by the Browns yet. Has it been?
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Really? Dang. I was kinda skimming through the posts. Most had nothing to do w/the topic at hand. My bad. Well...........I really, really hope this trade comes to fruition. 
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Really? Dang.
I was kinda skimming through the posts. Most had nothing to do w/the topic at hand.
My bad.
Well...........I really, really hope this trade comes to fruition.
Done Deal...Savage said it was a 2nd rounder and that there was noone at 56 worth this talent...All pending physical which will be easy... 
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BTW...Apparently this Rogers to Cincy deal has crashed and burned... 
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Sweet, everything else is just logistics. Couldn't agree more on the second rounder sentiment also. Hopefully he's a great addition to the line.
Hey DnD, did they ask Savage about how he feels abotu not having a first day pick anymore?
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Why?  I Kinda feel bad for 'em ... kinda ...
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According to Mike O'Hara of the Detroit News, the deal was not consummated and the Lions will be looking to send Rogers elsewhere. The two teams had agreed that Rogers would head to the Bengals for a third-round and a fifth-round pick.
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Because they found out about the strip club trouble he had last year ...  You can't leave out the juicy parts bro! 
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Great move by Phil. But as I said earlier, this really screws up the Draft party..... 
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LOL...........wonder what they'll do? Do they sell booze there? If so, people will be really wasted by the time we pick.
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LOL...........wonder what they'll do? Do they sell booze there? If so, people will be really wasted by the time we pick.
I doubt there is one...we don't have a first day pick.
*Isn't this the year where the first day of the draft is just rounds 1 and 2?*
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Yeah, that's why I said what I said. I doubt that they'll have a party. Too bad, I always enjoyed it.
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Great move by Phil. But as I said earlier, this really screws up the Draft party.....
Nah, when Green Bay uses our old pick, just jump up and scream "Williams"!!!. More than likely a better value than what the Packers get there.
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Wow-za!
He can be a beast, but doesn't he have some character concerns?
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I'm starting to wonder if we'll even have a Draft this year........ 
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LOL me too! I'm kinda iffy on this pick up ... if it actually happens
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Wow-za!
He can be a beast, but doesn't he have some character concerns?
Something to do with a strip club
He may have some character concerns...but the man is a flat out BEAST! He'd be a heck of a NT.
you had a good run Hank.
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That would be insane. Talk about upgrading the defensive line.
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And who knows, maybe the Team and Crennel can get him to reach his potential.
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In addition to the strip club incident, it's been said that he doesn't get himself in shape and loses his effectiveness as a result.
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I always looked at him as as Big Money II.
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Undisciplined,takes a gap instead of playing his man.Feast or famine type of player.
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In addition to the strip club incident, it's been said that he doesn't get himself in shape and loses his effectiveness as a result.
I doubt that will happen in Cleveland, don't see much of that around here any more for whatever reason, hopefully if he comes here the coaches/players push him to reach his potential because when he is playing at 100% hes freakin awesome.
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Not just to you WB.  Is it just me, or does it seem like upper tier talent are seriously looking at Cleveland and saying to themselves, "I WANT to be on that team". 
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Not just to you WB.
Is it just me, or does it seem like upper tier talent are seriously looking at Cleveland and saying to themselves, "I WANT to be on that team".
Yeah, thats the vibe I've been getting and I love it... Players don't really care where they play as long as...
A.) Its a class A organization.
B.) It has a winning atmosphere.
C.) The team is willing to pay.
The Browns have all 3.
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Browns close to acquiring Williams Zac Jackson, Staff Writer 02.29.2008 Running back, quarterback, defensive lineman. Check, check, and almost a check. The Browns are on the verge of addinga player one of the NFL's best teams originally designated as too good to allow to hit the free agent market - a player the Browns targeted internally long before free agency started as someone who could bolster the defensive front both immediately and in the long term. The Browns and Packers have agreed to a trade that will bring defensive lineman Corey Williams to the Browns in exchange for the Browns' second round pick, 56 overall, in the 2008 NFL Draft. The Browns and Williams have agreed to terms on a six-year deal. "We felt like (Williams) is someone who, if he did get to free agency, we would be interested in trying to obtain," Savage said. "Once the league year began we contacted the Packers and asked if they'd be willing to talk trade. We talked about it and ultimately came to the conclusion it was worth a second-round pick to get a defensive lineman that has played in the league and has had success in the league." The Packers designated Williams, 27, their franchise player before free agency began. Williams was a force on the interior last season for a Packers team that finished the regular season with the NFC's best record. Williams' breakout season came in 2006, when his first 11 starts came in his first 16-game season. He followed that up with another stellar 2007, when he again fought off double teams and played well against the run and the pass. He had 7 sacks in each of the last two seasons and set a career high with 35 tackles in 2007, one more than he had in '06. He played in all 16 games and two playoff games last season. He was a sixth-round draft choice out of Arkansas State in 2004, playing in 24 games in his first two NFL seasons. Savage said Williams (6-foot-4, 313) could fit at either left or right defensive end with the Browns and will play inside in the Browns' four-man fronts. "When we left our final free agency meeting, our three main objectives were to sign Jamal Lewis back, sign Derek Anderson back and also to try to address the defensive line," Savage said. "On the first day of free agency we were able to do that. "We're excited about adding Corey. He'll be a real valuable addition." To add Williams, the Browns had to give up their only remaining first-day pick in this year's draft. That was not an easy decision, but it's one Savage said makes the most sense as the Browns sort through their options for continuing to improve the team. Specifically, he said the Browns wouldn't be able to get a defensive lineman near Williams' caliber with the 56th overall pick. "A legitimate veteran d-lineman who still has a lot of upside potential seemed to be a good fit for us," Savage said. "Our scouting staff...will get to know those mid level players a little better. Maybe we'll find a gem or two." http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/article.php?id=8249
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Wonder what the delay in this signing is?
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Mmm, maybe they're waiting on his physical.
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Okay, we'll go with that.  But, didn't Rogers have to take a physical, too?
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maybe Roye won`t give up his "99" jersey to Williams... 
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Ummm, you do know Roye is gone, right?
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I love this deal. I 2nd for a stud at a position of DIRE need. I mentioned this guys in a DL thread about a month ago where folks were talking about Jenkins, Rogers, Hayesworth and such. and I got a responce much like the sound of crickets. It's funny how so many love him now. I mostly lurk so I don't mind LOL. Rodgers is icing on the cake. I'm a bit nervouse about CB now, but free agency is not over. Edit: or really a P.S. I have the sunday ticket and due to farve being my fantasy QB this year, i watched A Lot of Greenbay games this year, when not opossit the browns. but sometime had them both on. ( i have a dual tuner on my 52"  ) This guy has a motor. Those not familiar with him, will learn to love him. I.M. very H.O.
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I love this deal. I 2nd for a stud at a position of DIRE need. I mentioned this guys in a DL thread about a month ago where folks were talking about Jenkins, Rogers, Hayesworth and such. and I got a responce much like the sound of crickets. It's funny how so many love him now. I mostly lurk so I don't mind LOL. Rodgers is icing on the cake. I'm a bit nervouse about CB now, but free agency is not over.
I am not as worried about CB, now that we have the potential to really disrupt the passing game, and hopefully shut down the running game better. That with our offense coming back mostly intact we could do some real damage. If we tend to get ahead early then the front 7 will be rushing in with their ears pinned back and that could make for a real fun year. Heck it is too early to speculate, but what else do we have to do this time of year? 
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