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Heck of alot of talent, I wish he wanted to be here but he doesn't. Time to move on.
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 This is funny to me because I heard the interview live. Winslow didn't say this at all. Adam Schein said it. He said that when Mangini was hired he didn't think Winslow or Edwards would play for the Browns next season. What Winslow did say is that Brady Quinn would be the better QB for the Browns next season.
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having 3 second rounds in this years draft would be freaking awesome...
GO LB round 1 and Then WR/CB/S in round 2....wow that would be awesome. Or go WR in round one (crabtree) and LB/CB/S in round 2.
Then maybe another late round WR.
All that being said. I would rather have BE this year. Just because i think we will need him a lot more.
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Not that we needed any more proof that Edwards wants out, but there are posters who still believe Edwards wants to stay in Cleveland.
You're quick to jump on this because it supports your opinion, but you neglect the fact that a) he hasn't formally asked for a trade and b) we had his father - who I believe is closer to him than Winslow - stating his first preference is to stay in Cleveland.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle - no heartbreak if the trade happens, no hearthbreak if he stays. But you like to take the smallest bit of evidence that supports your opinion and rub it in the faces of those that aren't on that same train with you - neglecting everthing else.
You have one guy saying one thing, another guy possibly saying something else. You have no formal trade demand. This is not the open and shut case you make it out to be.
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Braylon is not going anywhere in 2009...
Even if some of us do not care for him... The Browns need him. He is a threat, and our other "threat" is now a Buccaneer.
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This is funny to me because I heard the interview live. Winslow didn't say this at all. Adam Schein said it. He said that when Mangini was hired he didn't think Winslow or Edwards would play for the Browns next season.
What Winslow did say is that Brady Quinn would be the better QB for the Browns next season.
Very interesting. The article is out of NY, so not surprising they would spin it that Edwards wants to go there.
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But you like to take the smallest bit of evidence that supports your opinion and rub it in the faces of those that aren't on that same train with you - neglecting everthing else.
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You have one guy saying one thing, another guy possibly saying something else. You have no formal trade demand. This is not the open and shut case you make it out to be.
Other than Braylon's comments that he didn't want to be here in the first place, and all the little puffs of smoke that indicate a fire, no, we don't have a direct quote from him asking for a trade.
If this were a court of law, you'd win. However, this is the court of public opinion. 
All the circumstantial evidence (besides......you know.........Braylon saying he didn't want to be here, and that the city and the fans are all against him *L*) says he's not happy and would want out, given the chance.
So, while we don't have a quote asking for a trade or a release, we also don't have a quote that says he wants a contract extension, and that he wants to finish his career as a Brown. 
Open and shut case? Nope. Pretty-damned obvious that there's a huge problem here? Oh yeah 
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Even if some of us do not care for him... The Browns need him. He is a threat, and our other "threat" is now a Buccaneer.
I thought our other "threat" was in the NFL Substance Abuse Program and driving around Florida somewhere,..... 
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You heard the interview?
Didn't think so,if you had,you wouldn't be calling Winslow stupid.
Winslow made it out of here,and he's downright giddy about it.Those few lines were nothing more than a friend trying to help another friend get out of the NFL craphole that is Cleveland.
Winslow and Edwards,thier stars shine much too brightly to remain in the NFL backwaters.They can't remain observers to the real NFL,they need to be centerstage.That won't happen for either here.
There are many things you can call Winslow,but stoopid,isn't one of them.
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BC,, if you think that little of the Browns, why are you even a fan of the team.. I mean, it seems as if your contempt for them is endless and your dislike for the city unending.
To me, if I thought that little of the team and the city they play in, i'd not follow that team at all.. Please excuse me on this, I'm rather confused by your thinking..
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U know .. theres alot of HAPPY WR'S in the NFL that would more than likely give there right testicle to go play with the Gnats ... thats a GREAT SITUATION for a WR on many levels ... so why folks would believe even for a second given Brey's situation here with us that he would not give both testicles to go there is beyond me ..... its almost as ludicrous as believing were re- building ...
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I DID hear the interview and I also don't think that Winslow said anything stupid. Actually I think he handled himself very well, he did seem happy, and really the only person it seemed he had issues with were Savage, and I beleive he dodged that question pretty well.
I think he was about to jump down Schien's thoat if Schein didn't word his question about Winslow and Edwards handling Mangini's "discipline" very well. If you've heard Schien in the past he has stated that he doesn't beleive those guys could comform to Mangini's camp, basically they would be trouble. Schien didn't exactly tell Winslow the same thing he has said in the past.
As for the Edwards comments, I believe Winslow knows Edwards wants out. He was just trying to be sensitive to the situation.
I don't think Edwards will be here after the draft.
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I don't view Cleveland in such a negative light,but I'm a local.
The Browns are what I described,a second rate NFL team.Excluding local products,no player in thier right mind would want to play here.
In his interview Winslow spoke highly of the fans and the city,it might have been just lip service,but I thought it was genuine.He wasn't so glowing when speaking of the team.
I realize it's fashionable to always be upbeat and not critize the team,but truth be told,they suck and have for a long time.I don't see that changing in the near future.
I know you didn't,but there will be several of the minions following along here that will,don't question my love for the Browns.
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Well said, BCbrownie....
The one person not saying a word is Braylon.
We have heard Braylon's dad says the right things...stuff about Braylon wanting to play in Cleveland...words to that effect....
Now we have Winslow, finally opening his big mouth...I just new he would begin to trash Cleveland, forgetting that it was Kellen who wrecked his own motorcycle in a parking lot....
Why is it hard for some to believe that players who view themselves as "elite", do not want to play for losing team that is in a state of constant change?
If your a head coach, do you want players who play well when things are going well for them...but when things get tough, these players disappear or do not play up to their ability?
Have you ever thought, there are different ways of measuring ones toughness?...its not all about physical toughness. The mental toughness it takes to bust your butt, even when things are going badly for the team, is just as (if not more) important than physical toughness.
If your a new coach who is starting a rebuilding process, do you want players who go south when times are tough?
If the Browns rebuilding process goes well under this new management/coaching team, the Browns are likely going to have one or two more "tough" years. Is Braylon tough enough to bust his butt (for a below average team) for another year or two?
Realistically, does Braylon fit the mold of a player who will buy into another rebuilding process in Cleveland?
I wish I could "yes" to the above question...but I can't.
I doubt that Mangini can make Braylon happy about playing through another rebuilding year in Cleveland...jmho...mac....
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I know you didn't,but there will be several of the minions following along here that will,don't question my love for the Browns.
That seems to be a trend on here. Say the Browns stink or that so and so wouldn't start on another team and you're a traitor. Or an idiot. And none of that is remotely true.
The truth hurts.....but the truth is a reasonable person can see that the Browns now aren't the Browns of 30 years ago in stature or ability. But you can still be a fan even if you acknowledge the truth. Keep the faith, baby......
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Now we have Winslow, finally opening his big mouth...I just new he would begin to trash Cleveland, forgetting that it was Kellen who wrecked his own motorcycle in a parking lot....
Taken in the context of the rest of your post this quote makes little sense. Not to mention it's not true. Winslow praised the fans and the city. But he (essentially) thinks the team is in trouble. Just what about that is untrue or "trashing" the team?
Or did I misread what you said?
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Hey all KW2 was saying...BE is a city guy. If you are a City guy there really is none better than NYC. Of course he would love it. KW2 did state that he loved it in Cleveland but would be a fit for NYC (not football but the other stuff - more face time on publications and TV I'm sure.) Just for those who think I'm being bias...I'm not a City guy thats why I don't live there 
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Not that we needed any more proof that Edwards wants out, but there are posters who still believe Edwards wants to stay in Cleveland.
I don't need to address any fans who dream that Edwards wants to stay here..it didn't take me long to figure that out..like right when he was interviewed and he was ticked that the Fins didn't select him..like when he was quoted saying Lebron wants out of Cleveland...yeah sure he wants to be here  Trade his butt..thats all I say..trade him..
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Not trying to be derogatory here,but it's difficult for us midwesterners to make the distinction between NYC and LI.Especially after that Long Islander says that Boston isn't a big town.
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Now we have Winslow, finally opening his big mouth...I just new he would begin to trash Cleveland, forgetting that it was Kellen who wrecked his own motorcycle in a parking lot....
Taken in the context of the rest of your post this quote makes little sense. Not to mention it's not true. Winslow praised the fans and the city. But he (essentially) thinks the team is in trouble. Just what about that is untrue or "trashing" the team?
Or did I misread what you said?
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..."Ex-'mate: Braylon wants to be a Giant
Braylon Edwards hasn’t asked out of Cleveland (yet), but according to one of his former teammates the big receiver would “love” to play with the Giants this year.
That’s what ex-Browns tight end Kellen Winslow said today in an interview on The Sirius Blitz on Sirius NFL Radio, Winslow said he thinks Edwards’ days in Cleveland are numbered, and that if they are the receiver is hoping to be shipped to New York.
“For some reason I don’t (think he’ll play for the Browns in 2009),” Winslow said. “I know Braylon would love to go to New York. The Giants would fit him to the ‘T’ and he would have so much fun up there. I know he loves Cleveland but New York would be a great fit for him.”
Later in his conversation with hosts Adam Schein and Solomon Wilcots, Winslow said Edwards “would love it there. He’s a city guy and, yeah, I know he would love it there.”
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craz...do you consider the above comments by Winslow as "praise" for Browns fans and the city of Cleveland?
Imagine that, two different people with two different opinions...it happens all the time, crazy... 
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I certainly wouldn't consider them as comments trashing Cleveland. Cleveland is hardly NYC. Anyone who thinks that people outside of the state of Ohio would prefer Cleveland to New York City really need a reality check.
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I don't view Cleveland in such a negative light,but I'm a local.
It kinda sounded like it to me,, but if you say you don't feel that way, I'll take you at your word..
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The Browns are what I described,a second rate NFL team
Hmm,, don't know I agree. They have put a second rate product on the field for the last 10 years,, that's not even questionable.
But I think Lerner is trying to build a 1st rate organization.. And as teams go, we do have a pretty nifty heritage... Not recent, but it's still out there..
I'd say our product is second rate, but not the Team.... might be just semantics however...
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Didn't hear the interview.. so I can't say,, he wasn't what I was commenting on,, I was talking about your comments... or at least the way I took them..
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I realize it's fashionable to always be upbeat and not critize the team,but truth be told,they suck and have for a long time.I don't see that changing in the near future.
I'll admit to being more upbeat than downbeat over the browns.,, what can I say, I'm hooked on them.. It's crazy, kinda like a drug or something. 
But I can't argue with how bad the on field performance has been since thier return.. we've had a few bright spots, but not much else..
As for it not changing,, sorry, I can't think doom and gloom. I'll give the devil his due and see how Mangini does before just saying I don't see good things in the future..
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No, I didn't question that, I merely questioned why you love them given your comments.. Man I know it's tough to be a browns fan.. Trust me, I have first hand knowledge.......
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What??!! 
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I'd think you could ask a thousand people who have failed,and not one of them would say he set out to do things 2nd rate.Trying to run a successful org.goes without saying.
Maybe,Lerner's view of a successful org.differs from ours.We see it as being a winning team,he may see success as making money.
(I hate to have put disclaimers after every sentence,but some turd is going to jump on that.I don't know any of that to be factual,it's just a look at things from a slightly different point of view)
Very few players in today's NFL know about,or even care about what happened here 40 odd years ago.That heritage and history really only exists in a select few old geezer's minds.And we old geezers are rapidly disappearing.
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Braylon would probably love to go to NY or LA... Why you ask? B/c he would be around all the model agencies..
I'll say it again.... Braylon wants to do more than just football.
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j/c i hate the idea of losing BE simply because we're so thin but the giants do have a 1st, two 2nds, and 2 thirds (one compensatory). You'd think they can offer us a pretty good package out of that. maybe a 2nd, the compensatory 3rd, and hixon/manningham. then again, maybe manningham will think we hate him because he's from michigan...
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i hate the idea of losing BE simply because we're so thin but the giants do have a 1st, two 2nds, and 2 thirds (one compensatory). You'd think they can offer us a pretty good package out of that. maybe a 2nd, the compensatory 3rd, and hixon/manningham.
then again, maybe manningham will think we hate him because he's from
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Which is probably why he said (compensatory)
They've allready discussed a receiver a 2nd and a 5th. If Burress isn't available, that offer would increase to either a better receiver than Hixon, or their 1st rounder. Of course if Burress isn't available, our demands might increase as well
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True, but the package he mentioned also said compensatory...doesn't matter though.
Kiwanuka was also part of the rumors, but I don' tremember the specifics. If Burress is a done deal for the G-men, then I'd be half tempted for Kiwanuka plus one of the 2nds for Braylon - or Kiwanuka, Hixon and a 3rd.
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Well the reason I said that is believe it or not Columbus Ohio is more populated than Boston. It really isn't that big. You ever see Fenway? well half the city fits in there...lol 
Long Island is like 30 miles wide and 250 miles "LONG" and when I refer to Long Island I'm always talking about Nassau n Suffolk Counties not part of Queens and Brooklyn on the Island. Those two couties have 3 million in population...pretty much Wall to Wall Suburbia - with the last 50 miles of the Eastern End being less sparse. But we have Ball fields, Parks, Golf courses, Horses, Beaches so its not like the City...but it has enough off shoots of Entertainment and Restaurants from the City over flow to get almost everything the City has to offer you just have to Drive to it.
Not quite sure what your question was??? But - my two Counties got 3 million people and Boston City has just under 600 grand. I think in that post I was stating how I considered a Boston as a Multi College Town and that was its biggest industry...well now we are finding out the Sales of Marijuana just might be its biggest Industry lol
Anyway I don't care if you hate the City or not...fact is Its a pretty special City which I got to agree with KW2 - BE would have fun there. But I'm talking Social life not Football Life...he might or might not have fun there. Coughlin will be more the disciplinarian than Mangini and after losing Plaxico he'll be tough on BE.
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Plax released by the Giants...So what do you think are the odds that Braylon is a Giant by opening day?
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Plax released by the Giants...So what do you think are the odds that Braylon is a Giant by opening day?
I wonder what triggered Plax being released since his case was pushed back until June?
Maybe the Giants were told that Plax was going to do some time, regardless of a plea deal.
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Plax released by the Giants...So what do you think are the odds that Braylon is a Giant by opening day?
Still think it's low unless they really anti up.
Given how thin WE are WR, I don't see us giving up BE for the proposed trade (player, 2nd and 5th). Now, if that becomes a 1st, 2nd and a 5th you have to consider it......and I'm in the keep BE camp. That would allow us to grab Crabtree or Maclin and hell, maybe even land Orakpo or Brown with that extra pick.
But again, I'm more inclined to do the trade AFTER we draft. Why? Because I'd prefer to have Crabtree in hand before shipping off BE. JMHO though. We'd look pretty stupid if we traded him before the draft and someone took Crab before we selected. Unless no one has a problem with David Patten as our #1.
Isn't Bolden being dangled as well by Arizona? Could signal NYG being confident they can get one or the other at this point.
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Plax released by the Giants...So what do you think are the odds that Braylon is a Giant by opening day?
About 20% greater than they were one hour ago
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That probably made their decision easier. The closer they get to camp, the less they want to deal with this distraction.
If he's going to do time, even a short stint, why keep pushing it back? I heard he was likely going to get 1 year because that is pretty standard in New York for this offense and they don't want to be viewed as playing favorites.... why not make the deal and get it started? Wouldn't it be better to get out next April than next June or July?
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If he's going to do time, even a short stint, why keep pushing it back? I heard he was likely going to get 1 year because that is pretty standard in New York for this offense and they don't want to be viewed as playing favorites.... why not make the deal and get it started? Wouldn't it be better to get out next April than next June or July?
I agree DC, but the fact that he is in this predicament is a testament to his reasoning skills.
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But again, I'm more inclined to do the trade AFTER we draft. Why? Because I'd prefer to have Crabtree in hand before shipping off BE. JMHO though. We'd look pretty stupid if we traded him before the draft and someone took Crab before we selected. Unless no one has a problem with David Patten as our #1.
This is exactly how I feel. The only caveat to this is if we feel Maclin will be better than Crabtree which I doubt.
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Actually its going to depend on the picks and what type of recievers KoMan the Barbarian want I have a idea of what recievers they're looking at..might surprise a few people. One name to watch for is Patrick Turner..not saying it's a lock but watch out..
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I'd think you could ask a thousand people who have failed,and not one of them would say he set out to do things 2nd rate
I think that's true,,, but what I meant (again, it's tough to have to qualify every sentence) was that I don't think he always understood what it took, or what kinda people it took to be successful in the NFL. (to be honest, I'm not sure he does yet, but we'll be seeing that soon enough)
Try to remember, he was thrust into this, probably wasn't as prepared as he would have liked to have been and for the last 5 or so years, he's getting OJT.
As for money, the man was worth something in the area of 4 Billion (without the value of the team in there) Not that he doesn't care about money, I'm quite certain he does, but it's not the end of the world to him. he's gonna eat tonight no matter what the Browns do from a profit standpoint.
More than once it's been said that Randy Lerner grew up a Browns fan... He's also been a successful business man. I think he knows the difference between winning on the field and winning on a balance sheet.
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Very few players in today's NFL know about,or even care about what happened here 40 odd years ago.
Then shame on them. You would think that it's important to know the history of the company you work for,, I know that I've always thought it was...
As for the old Geezers,,, yup,, that part is 100% right
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i hate the idea of losing BE simply because we're so thin but the giants do have a 1st, two 2nds, and 2 thirds (one compensatory). You'd think they can offer us a pretty good package out of that. maybe a 2nd, the compensatory 3rd, and hixon/manningham.
then again, maybe manningham will think we hate him because he's from michigan...
True, but it's more plausible that Manningham was actually a Browns fan growing up--Warren, Ohio,....maybe. I don't know where, though I understand it, people have to come up with this Michgan crap. NOBODY complained when we had Thom Darden, Leroy Hoard or Steve Everitt.
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