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Pretty excited about josh cooper....kid has some good hands.


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Update: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

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Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State
Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St
Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State
Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho
Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt
J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State
William Green, DE, Florida
Tashaun Gipson, S, Wyoming
Garth Gerhart, OL, Arizona State
Bert Reed, WR, Florida State
Emanuel Davis, CB, East Carolina
Mike Allen, CB, James Madison

Considering the "names" out there in UDFA this list is rather uninspiring but there's some talent here...E.Davis and Garth Gerhart (Toby Gerhart's bro, btw) are the most known "names" for draftniks here and I think Gipson is a decent CB/FS convert option who could be developed either as the 4th S or on the PS depending on his ST play. Saffold is another intriguing speed option at WR with a sub 4.4 at over 6' and 200p with some production to back it up...

Would like another RB be brought in in case of injury but Heckert probably still likes Obi and A.Smith as the current 4th and 5th RBs to compete and fill a roster spot in case of injury...

Especially OL have a good shot at making the roster since we just have Miller, Greco and Cousins as depth, so there's an open spot and the other 3 aren't locks to make the roster

Gotta say that the Ravens and Steelers got a nice haul of UDFAs, there's some draftable talent on those lists...maybe young players just prefer to play for those 2 teams when haveing free choice? Steelers got DB Golden, WR Maze and OLB Lindsey...3 very draftable talents, I also liked their last pick very much, CB Frederick


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Hey, I like the Emanuel Davis signing! He stuck out to me when I was watching Marshall v ECU as a very active CB who was scrappy and not afraid to come up and tackle. Made a number of good plays that game. I even put him on my browns 150 ranked players because I liked his effort and ability.

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He's very similar to Wade having had an up and down career in College..both have some upside but have to play up to it to earn a roster spot, they wil battle Dockery for the last roster spot...if 2 of those 3 show up, we might even release slacking Sheldon


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He's very similar to Wade having had an up and down career in College..both have some upside but have to play up to it to earn a roster spot, they wil battle Dockery for the last roster spot...if 2 of those 3 show up, we might even release slacking Sheldon




Dockery is pretty good, at least he was at Oregon St.


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Sheldon Brown was waving his hands in the air like he just didn't care last year. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in their CB plans for next year and is a final cut at TC. Hopefully the youngsters (Skrine, Dockery, Wade, and one of the UDFAs) play well enough that along with Haden and Patterson they can afford to let him go.

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Meh... they're UDFAs. They went undrafted for a reason: they aren't very good. If you hit on one or two as a special teams upgrade, you've done really well. If you find a real diamond in the rough who becomes an offensive or defensive starter, you've won the lottery.

Every year people get "excited" about the UDFAs we bring in and every year most, if not all, of them end up getting cut. Camp fodder. ::shrug::


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On the other hand .......

We found Josh Cribbs as an UDFA ..... and Leigh Bodden. UDFA Jordan Norwood looks like he could have a future in the NFL. There are a lot of OL playing in the league today, as starters, who came in as UDFA. Most Kickers and Punters are UDFA as well.

It's just another opportunity to bring guys in for a look, and every so often you might find a gem here or there.


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You're right (and I said that)... but it's still exceedingly rare. The overwhelming majority of starters in this league are drafted players.


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I would guess we have had more hits on undrafteds over the last 10 years than we have hit on round 2 and 3.

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... and that says a lot (because we haven't hit on much of anything since we came back). I don't know whether to laugh or cry...


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For what it's worth, I'm no college football kinda guy and I've actually heard of a few of these (not sure if that's good or bad LOL)

Fodder for the most part,, but lots of trench guys.. Could it be that someone finally figured out that without the trenches,, nothing works?


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looking at the UDFAs again.. I doubt any of them make the final 53. We do need more bodies in camp though.


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Sheldon Brown was waving his hands in the air like he just didn't care last year. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in their CB plans for next year and is a final cut at TC. Hopefully the youngsters (Skrine, Dockery, Wade, and one of the UDFAs) play well enough that along with Haden and Patterson they can afford to let him go.




I think Sheldon Brown is better than this gives him credit for. I think he makes the team and continues to play the opponents #2 option.


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looking at the UDFAs again.. I doubt any of them make the final 53. We do need more bodies in camp though.




Safe bet,,, isn't that always the way it is pretty much.. I mean, Cribbs was a HUGE exception..


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there's usually like one guy that i usually latch on too in each UDFA class, but none of these guys do it for me.. idk.


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Anyone sign Dwight Jones yet?

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Houston signed Dwight jones yesterday.

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Josh Cooper is a sure-thing when the ball gets to him. Great hands. I'm hoping he can find his way on to the roster. I think he could impress some people given the chance he has.

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Oklahoma State WR Josh Cooper among undrafted free agents eager for shot with Browns

By Nate Ulrich
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Published: April 29, 2012 - 08:00 PM | Updated: April 29, 2012 - 11:03 PM

While Oklahoma State wide receiver Josh Cooper waited to learn whether an NFL team would draft him Saturday night, his good friend and college teammate Brandon Weeden, the quarterback who was picked by the Browns 22nd overall, foreshadowed their reunion.

“He actually called me in the seventh round telling me the GM [Tom Heckert] and the head coach [Pat Shurmur] wanted me to sign if I didn’t get drafted,” Cooper said Sunday afternoon in a phone interview. “I was all for it. They showed the most interest in me, and it was a done deal by the time the seventh round was over.”

Shurmur said the Browns plan to sign about 15 undrafted free agents. Cooper is among the young men who have agreed to terms with the organization in hopes of catching on despite not being drafted.

“There’s a whole list of guys that we had draftable grades on that we’re trying to convince to come [here] as free agents,” Shurmur said Saturday night. “So that’s kind of the process, but all 32 teams are doing it. It’s a mad scramble.”

The Browns won’t announce the names of the players until all of them sign, but several have been identified in an unofficial capacity.

Like Cooper, Stanford cornerback Johnson Bademosi, East Carolina cornerback Emanuel Davis and James Madison cornerback Mike Allen have agreed to sign with the Browns, league sources confirmed for the Beacon Journal. Florida defensive end William Green, Missouri State wide receiver Jermaine Saffold and Florida State wide receiver Bert Reed have as well, their schools announced.

The Columbus Dispatch reported two players from Ohio State, offensive tackle J.B. Shugarts and linebacker Andrew Sweat, are Cleveland bound. Wyoming safety Tashaun Gipson, Arizona State guard Garth Gerhart and Idaho offensive tackle Matt Cleveland will join them, according to Scout.com.

Browns guard Jason Pinkston announced via Twitter that his former college teammate, Pittsburgh cornerback Antwuan Reed, is another addition.

Although most undrafted rookies are long shots to make the team, three — running back Armond Smith, cornerback James Dockery and linebacker Benjamin Jacobs — survived cut day last year and made the Browns’ initial 53-man roster. And because the NFL recently expanded offseason and preseason rosters from 80 to 90 players, more underdogs are getting shots to earn roster spots than in previous years.

“I was hoping to get drafted … but just getting a chance to be up there anyway is good enough for me,” said Cooper, who established himself as Weeden’s No. 2 target at Oklahoma State behind the fifth overall pick in this year’s draft, receiver Justin Blackmon. “I’m excited to come up there and show them what I can do and prove myself.”

Last season as a senior, the 5-foot-11, 190-pound Cooper caught 71 passes for 715 yards and three touchdowns in 12 games. The previous year, he compiled 68 receptions for 736 yards and five touchdowns in 13 games.

Cooper hopes to convince the Browns he’s valuable as a slot receiver and a return specialist.

“I’m a hard-nosed player,” he said. “I’m a small guy, but I play hard and I play tough. I’m not gonna be the kind of guy that’s gonna run past you or anything, but I think I do more of my talking through my routes and separating from the [defender].”

Cooper also hopes his chemistry with Weeden gives him a leg up. The two hit campus Sunday afternoon in Stillwater, Okla., to work out together.

“We’re always on the same page,” Cooper said. “We have been for the last two years. Just getting this opportunity is huge.”

Cooper plans to report to the Browns on May 10, a day before the scheduled start of rookie minicamp. But there’s a chance he could arrive in Northeast Ohio sooner.

“Weeden might go up there and look around for a place [to live] a couple days before,” Cooper said. “I talked to him about going up there a few days before to see what it’s all about.”

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Some known names on this list this year, normally I know 3-4 names,

There might be a few depth players here to replace some of the depth players that have been around a few years, hopefully a few will catch on and make us stronger.

I do like Cooper signing & Reed from Flordia State is intresting, alot of potentinal but never lived up to it.

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Here is an article about the best UDFA's on offense in this year's draft. I realize that some of these guys have already been signed.

The best undrafted players of 2012: The offense


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Believe it or not, our top undrafted QB once beat out Matt Barkley at USC. (Getty Images)
You may remember that receivers Doug Baldwin and Victor Cruz had pretty good seasons in 2011. And that Wes Welker guy? He's pretty good, too. Arian Foster is nobody to sneeze at, and London Fletcher is one of the most durable and productive linebackers we've seen in this era. You heard of Tony Romo? Antonio Gates? And we'd better include James Harrison, lest he lay us out with one of those brick-hard hits.

You may know where we're going with this -- none of the players named above heard their names called by any teams in their draft classes. With chips on their shoulders, and the desire to prove everybody wrong, undrafted players will often rise to a level few saw coming. Add in the historical guys -- Kurt Warner, Night Train Lane, John Randle, Rod Smith, Warren Moon, Priest Holmes, Adam Vinatieri, Larry Little, Sam Mills ... the list does go on and on. In that spirit, it's not a reach to assume that one of the players that went undrafted in the 2012 class will wind up making a lot of personnel guys look pretty dumb in time. Here are our favorite undrafteds this year on offense; our all-defense team can be found here.

Quarterback

Aaron Corp, Richmond: USC transfer who impressed me at the combine and had me going back to watch tape. Beat Matt Barkley out as a starter before breaking his leg, which makes you wonder what might have been. A Greg Cosell favorite.

Kellen Moore, Boise State: Great brain, popgun arm. In the right offense, could be a Chad Pennington/Ty Detmer type. Potential to be a coach on the field -- he's smart enough to do more with a clipboard than just hold it on the sidelines.

Austin Davis, Southern Miss: Davis also came on my radar with his combine throwing session. Played in an offense that had a lot of read-first or predetermined reads, but you could say the same thing of Brandon Weeden.

Running Back

Chris Polk, Washington: Polk's positive is that he plays like he thinks he's 250 pounds. His negative is that he doesn't weigh 250 pounds. Incredibly physical runner with medical concerns. Underrated pass-catcher and a good kid who will work his butt off.

Davin Meggett, Maryland: Son of Dave Meggett. Bowling-ball runner who might have a Mike Tolbert-style career. Not explosive by any means, but gets through the pile with authority and could shine in a running back rotation.

Tauren Poole, Tennessee: Poole has speed that he doesn't always know what to do with. Outruns his protection, and he's inconsistent, but he's worth a shot as a project player.

Bobby Rainey, Western Kentucky: Fast and agile player who might have seen an early third-day call if he was taller than 5-foot-7. Not that any short running backs have ever succeeded ... oh, wait! They succeed all the time.

Receiver

Chris Owusu, Stanford: Multiple concussions prevented Owusu from becoming the fifth Cardinal to be drafted in this class. If he can check out medically (and we certainly wish him the best from that perspective), you'll see a real burner who can establish himself as an outside threat and kick returner.

Eric Page, Toledo: At 5-foot-9 and 186 pounds, Page looks like a waterbug, but doesn't always look like one. You'd want better than 4.6 combine speed from a guy his size, and he may lack the physicality to be an NFL slot man in some offenses. But he is a good glider and he's shifty in space.

Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M: Good overall route guy, but man ... those hands. Those in the know who have charted A&M's games understand that Ryan Tannehill was unfairly dinged because his receivers dropped the ball as if it was the proverbial greased pig. Fuller's first challenge at the NFL level is obvious.

Tight End

DeAngelo Peterson, LSU: Might be an H-back at the next level, but will need development coming out of a retro passing offense. Gives effort and could also surprise out of the flex. Not an old-school tight end in the blocking department.

Chase Ford, Miami: A Miami tight end with limited experience and one-dimensional ability at this point. Well, that's what they said about Jimmy Graham. Ford isn't that good, but he blew it up at the East-West Shrine game and started popping up on the radar.

Offensive Tackles

Matt Reynolds, BYU: Reynolds served a two-year LDS mission at BYU, so he's coming into the league a bit older. But he started every one of the 52 possible game he could start for the Cougars, even when the offense fell off the cliff. Smart and clean on and off the field with interesting attributes.

Jeff Adams, Columbia: Another Shrine Game standout, Adams will have to develop weight, strength, and technique, but he's a good project for any team willing to wait.

Dustin Waldron, Portland State: He was part of an offense that led the nation in passing offense in 2008, and led the Big Sky Conference in rushing offense in 2010. Swing tackle potential. Perhaps this young lady would like to speak with him, given Waldron's conference affiliation.

Offensive Guard

James Brown, Troy: Underrated player -- tape mavens have a mancrush on him, and many gave him an early third-day grade. From a size perspective, a better zone guard, and there are concerns about the competition he faced.




http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/best-undrafted-players-2012-offense-190032664.html


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j/c... updated list

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

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Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State
Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St
Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State
Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho
Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt
J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State
William Green, DE, Florida
Tashaun Gipson, S, Wyoming
Garth Gerhart, OL, Arizona State
Bert Reed, WR, Florida State
Emanuel Davis, CB, East Carolina
Mike Allen, CB, James Madison
Johnson Bademosi, FS, Stanford
LJ Fort, LB, Northern Iowa

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I couldn't find a good highlight video on him, but here's an interview with some annoying music.


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Man oh man, was Shugarts just AWFUL for OSU . . .

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Mike Allen. Kind of runs out of control i guess. Made a couple nice picks, though... Reached out for one at 1:20.

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03/22/12 - Stanford Pro Day: Perhaps the most intriguing was Bademosi, who was clocked at a startling 4.35 on his first 40 attempt and also demonstrated incredible explosiveness in the vertical (40") and broad jump (10'5"). Graded by some clubs as a corner and others as a developmental free safety prospect, Bademosi may have earned himself a draft selection with his effort Thursday. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=81815&draftyear=2012&genpos=FS

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I liked the Bademosi signing, but unfortunately the Standford press is reporting he signed with SanFran, so I don't know which team is he really with, yet.

I'll admit I didn't know much about him until their pro day when there was a decent bit in an article about him that made me like him as a potential UDFA.. Hopefully we did get him, because of that list (if its all true) he is one I could see sticking, perhaps Sweat also (but doubt it), due to our lack of depth LB's overall, and if Fujita gets some small suspension.


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crap. ABJ today said browns.

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Stanford cornerback Johnson Bademosi and Pittsburgh cornerback Antwuan Reed also have agreed to sign with the Browns as undrafted free agents, league sources confirmed.

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Well I hope they are correct, and maybe they are, hopefully. I have been looking for the blurb I saw it in, but haven't located it yet.


Here is another UDFA listing site that says SanFran, take it for what its worth.

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Here is a complete list of all our undrafted free agents. Shurmur said we would sign 15 guys and there are 15 guys on that list, so I assume we are done for now.

James Madison cornerback Mike Allen
Akron guard Jake Anderson
Stanford cornerback Jonathan Bademosi
Idaho tackle Matt Cleveland
Oklahoma State receiver Josh Cooper
East Carolina cornerback Emanuel Davis
Northern Iowa linebacker L.J. Fort
Arizona State guard/center Garth Gerhart
Wyoming safety Tashaun Gipson
Florida State defensive end William Green
Florida State receiver Bert Reed
Pittsburgh cornerback Antwuan Reed
Missouri State receiver Jermaine Saffold
Ohio State tackle J.B. Shugarts
Ohio State linebacker Andrew Sweat

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Bummer. Still no more competition for our RBs

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2012/04/syracuse_university_tailback_a_2.html

Syracuse University tailback Antwon Bailey signs with hometown Washington Redskins

Syracuse, NY -- Syracuse University running back Antwon Bailey won’t have to travel far to take his shot at the NFL.
The All-Big East tailback from Landover, Md., signed a free agent contract with the Washington Redskins on Saturday night, shortly after the three-day NFL Draft ended.
Bailey, a 5-foot-7, 200-pounder, confirmed this afternoon that he has signed with the Redskins and will report to the team Thursday. The Redskins' rookie mini-camp begins on Friday.
The SU offensive captain in 2011 will soon get the chance he’s been waiting for – possibly catching passes or taking handoffs from Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III, the Redskins’ top pick and No. 2 selection in this year’s draft.
It wasn’t an easy road for Bailey.
Despite rushing for 1,051 yards in his senior season at SU and catching 29 passes for 200 more yards, Bailey was not invited to the NFL Combine in February and was rated as a long shot in the draft.
Bailey said he and his agent, Tony Paige of Perennial Sports and Entertainment, talked with more than a dozen teams in the week leading up to the draft.
“I knew I would get my shot,” he said. “I wasn’t worried about getting a shot.”
But he didn’t spend a lot of time in front of his television the past three days, either, as the draft played out on ESPN.
“I couldn’t watch the whole thing,” he said. “That would have been too mind-boggling for me.”
Despite the dearth of SU players taken (there were only two, Chandler Jones and Andrew Tiller), Bailey said he knew there would be free agent deals out there. He had talked to the Redskins several times.
“I talked to them during the process, so I wasn’t really surprised to hear from them,” he said of his hometown team.
Bailey played in 44 career games in four years at SU, but he didn’t become a starter until last fall.
His 2,144 rushing yards is 16th on the Orange career rushing list. His 91 catches for 454 yards are both SU records for receiving by a running back.
While it feels good to get his opportunity, Bailey said he’s really just starting another challenge.
“I’ve been getting ready for this for a long time. It feels good,” he said before adding, “There’s a lot more work to do, though.”

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Why do our running backs need competition? We have a clear number one guy, a guy who is good on third down, and three guys who will be competing for the third spot. Am I missing something?

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who's the guy that's good on third down?

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Brandon Jackson.

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In all fairness, Bailey isn't really all that remarkable.
Doesn't make sick cuts, doesn't dazzle with pure speed(I mean the speed he plays) and isn't big enough to be a bruiser.

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you think so? I thought he hit top speed really fast. I was impressed with the little bit I saw of him.

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Well according to this we did get Bademosi, that's good.


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Drive for show (1st round), Putt for dough (rest of draft).
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Quote:

who's the guy that's good on third down?




Trent Richardson.

He's the best pass catching RB on our roster, and he's the best pass-blocking RB on our roster. He's not a prototypical 2 down, bruiser RB who either has to come out or is a liability on obvious passing downs. He's a legit 3 down RB.

And yes, if you need to designate a backup as a "3rd down RB" that distinction would go to Brandon Jackson.


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