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And to think the Tribe got McAllister from the Skanks for Austin Kearns. Think the Skanks wish they never made that deal?
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They'll just wait till he becomes a free agent and sign him away from us.  However, we can pretty much ensure that we'll keep any free agent we want by making them a high enough qualifying offer. I think that it will be somewhere around $12-$13 million next year. (and that might drop if averages drop by virtue of huge contracts dropping in value) If we, for example, make Reynolds that kind of offer, then we would receiver a 1st round pick if someone else signs him ...........unless they are a lottery team, then it could be a 2nd round pick. The new system is really screwy, and is weighted so that it's not a 1 for 1 exchange. It's an odd formula, and one that I haven't seen spelled out in great detail.
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McAllister certainly pitched well enough to get the win and should have.
True, but for the other times where he gives up 5 ER in 5 innings and the offense explodes for 10 runs, he gets the win there.
IMO, if you're good enough to get to 20 wins, you will.
And anyway, the Tribe won. That's all that matters (and nobody got hurt in the process).
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Yeah but .....
Thus far this year, McAllister is 3-3. The way he has performed this year seems like he should have a much better record than he has.
These are his starts so far this year:
@TB 6 IP 2 ER (4 R) L
CHW 6.1 IP 1 ER (3R) W
BOS 5 IP 3 ER (3 R) L
@CHW 5.2 IP 3 ER (3R) L
PHI 7 IP 2 ER (2R) W
OAK 7.2 IP 0 ER (0R) W
@DET 6 IP 2 ER (3R) ND
SEA 7.1 IP 2 ER (2R) ND
He has a 3-3 record, in 8 starts, going an average of 6 1/3 innings per start. His ERA is an amazing 2.65. With an ERA like that you would think that his record would be much better.
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McAllister certainly pitched well enough to get the win and should have.
True, but for the other times where he gives up 5 ER in 5 innings and the offense explodes for 10 runs, he gets the win there.
IMO, if you're good enough to get to 20 wins, you will.
And anyway, the Tribe won. That's all that matters (and nobody got hurt in the process).
When has McAllister given up 5 runs (forget earned runs) in a game this season? He's only given up 3 ERs in 2 games this season, both of those loses.
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Sorry to the both of you, I wasn't pointing to a specific game of his in the past. As a pitcher, sometimes you get the win when you pitch bad and sometimes you get a ND or loss when you pitch well. It evens out over a long enough timeline. It's best to not worry about the ND or loss because Wins for a pitcher is kind of a meaningless stat. I'm sure a stat geek can explain that ERA or WAR or something else (quality starts) for a pitcher better explains if he's doing his job correctly.
And the end of the day, did he pitch well enough to keep his team in the game and did they ultimately get the win. That's all people should really care about for a starting pitcher.
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J/C ......
The Indians are trying to really beat up yet another former Cy Young winner, (Felix Hernandez - 2010) as they lead 5-0 in the bottom of the 3rd.
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The Indians are trying to really beat up yet another former Cy Young winner, (Felix Hernandez - 2010) as they lead 5-0 in the bottom of the 3rd.
Masterson is quickly becoming a legitimate #1 starter ... better known as the teams ACE ... JMHO 
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The Indians are trying to really beat up yet another former Cy Young winner, (Felix Hernandez - 2010) as they lead 5-0 in the bottom of the 3rd.
Masterson is quickly becoming a legitimate #1 starter ... better known as the teams ACE ... JMHO
Not bad for a kid from the island of Jamaica.
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Go, Tribe! Kick some! (Just wanted to get that in be fore the annual June Swoon elevator ride we grown to know and dread.) But it has been good so far. 
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Former Cy Young Award winners are 1-7 with an 8.21 ERA vs your 2013 Indians. I don't know what's more amazing - that we've faced 8 CYA winners in 42 games ( nearly every 5 games!), or that we won 7 of those 8 games. It gives me some hope that this isn't just another Indians' early season mirage.
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Former Cy Young Award winners are 1-7 with an 8.21 ERA vs your 2013 Indians. I don't know what's more amazing - that we've faced 8 CYA winners in 42 games ( nearly every 5 games!), or that we won 7 of those 8 games. It gives me some hope that this isn't just another Indians' early season mirage.
If nothing else, nobody can say it's a fluke. They have beaten good pitching, and done it multiple times.
I saw a stat last night that said around the same time last year we were a -2 with the same record. This year I think we are around the +30 mark, I don't remember exactly.
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[quote I saw a stat last night that said around the same time last year we were a -2 with the same record. This year I think we are around the +30 mark, I don't remember exactly.
Last year we were 23-17, in first place with a -2 run differential. This year we are 25-17, in first place with a +35 run differential. I just saw that before I left the house this morning so it is fresh in my mind. Something to be said about have a little more beef in the line-up. 
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Last year being down a run felt like a lot, being down any more like that and it felt like the game was over. This year, it just feels different. Being down a run isn't a big deal. When they take a close game into the 7th inning and beyond, I feel like we are supposed to win.
I still think if they can find an arm at the deadline, do it.
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the run differential certainly highlights things.
but, the fact that we can score against RHP & LHP, our starting pitchers are actually throwing quality games, and our bullpen has been our weakness over the past couple of weeks (and it's still good - that just shows how strong we've been in May).
i don't think we'll be this good all year, but I'm certainly enjoying it.
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I heard something about Little ( of the Browns ) making disparaging remark about Perez ?
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[quote I saw a stat last night that said around the same time last year we were a -2 with the same record. This year I think we are around the +30 mark, I don't remember exactly.
Last year we were 23-17, in first place with a -2 run differential. This year we are 25-17, in first place with a +35 run differential. I just saw that before I left the house this morning so it is fresh in my mind. Something to be said about have a little more beef in the line-up.
Some of that has to be credited to pitching as well. It would be interesting to see how the pitching numbers stack up compaed to last year.
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Agreed. Usually if they got down a run or two last year, I quit watching. Now I won't stop until after the post-game show. It's nice to see our pitchers throw quality games and our hitters reward them with runs. I'm with you guys, though. Let's hope this will last!!
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Quote for the Daily Herald...
The Indians improved to 7-1 against Cy Young recipients, knocking off Hernandez, R.A. Dickey, David Price, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Bartolo Colon and Justin Verlander.
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The Indians improved to 7-1 against Cy Young recipients, knocking off Hernandez, R.A. Dickey, David Price, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Bartolo Colon and Justin Verlander.
and, they are not only 7-1, but they have been lighting up these guys. Michael Brantley, in particular, seems to thrive off the best pitchers in the game.
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Kazmir not having a good day:
3 IP
63 PC
7 H
5 ER
2 BB
2 K
Already in the showers.
Game is tied 5-5 bottom 4.
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They'll blow it in the ninth.
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Need 2 runs.. come on Tribe!!
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The Bullpen Mafia are intent on killing every chance to win this game. Jeez.
1 run in the 8th for a blown save
1 run in the 9th for a potential loss (twarted by the Tribe's bats)
1 run in the 10th for another potential loss
Come on weenies.
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um, not exactly lol. the pitcher had a lot to do with it.
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Gomes has the bunt pulled....... so he smacks a 3 run walk off homer to win he 5th in a row for the Indians!  The Mariners made 2 really stupid errors late in the game to extend it for the Tribe ...... and Gomes made them pay!
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I had the feeling it was going to be another walk off. The offense carried the pitching today for sure. Seems like nobody had their "good" stuff. This team is really exciting to watch right now. But............
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But nothing. They find ways to win way too often for it to be fluke stuff. They get the occasional piece of luck, but sometimes that happens with a team of destiny.  (hopefully anyway)
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These come from behind heroics are starting to remind me a lot of the 95 squad.
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um, not exactly lol. the pitcher had a lot to do with it.
I'll go back and review the play-by-play on the Gamecast. I only reviewed the scoring summary.
Wow! I bet Seattle isn't too happy about this weekend (3 last-at-bat wins and a 6-0 shut-out by Masterson)
So that means the Tribe is up 2.5 before a 2-game set against the Tigers at home.
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Wow... this is unbelievable! LOL When was the last time you saw a Cleveland team capitalize on every chance our opponent gave us? This is AWESOME!
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But nothing. They find ways to win way too often for it to be fluke stuff. They get the occasional piece of luck, but sometimes that happens with a team of destiny. (hopefully anyway)
100%.
Today, most of those pieces of 'luck' were caused by pure speed. Bourne and Stubbs are an absolute headache for opposing pitchers. Love it!
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I don't even know what to say about that.
I'm just gonna move on to the next one.
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Gomes needs to stay on the major league roster. Marsen should be worried right now.
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I'm with you there, Excl. I almost commented to that the other day and figured I would be the jinx. YTown, I'm a Cleveland fan so there almost always has to be a "but." However, I agree that this could hopefully be a team of destiny. It's amazing how well they play when they are loose and confident.
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worried? he should have his bags packed. either to go to another team or Columbus.
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