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Don't use logic in a hate-fest. It ruins the agendas.

The issue began when the NFL put Banner and Hasslehoff together, and then the Chamelon Lombardo was brought on..I didn't like the way his name surfaced and where I was at, it was told where's there smoke there's fire.

So now reboot # 2. Whover it is and signs once more point to McDaniels, it's another birds of a feather flock together thing..
If they mess this up Hasslehoff needs to get rid of them.
There are some that questioned this stuff because they are close to the team and don't like whats happened even though they know both sides of the story. The apparent set up to fail is very evident so the PR hit they've got is earned.

Even these three kids have a pretty good idea for who to get to coach the Browns.

Im just glad we have fans younger than 20

http://www.youtube.com/v/Miqa-oFkIBk

Hmm ... interesting.

I like Stoops, a lot. If we go college coach, we could definitely do worse than Stoops. He definitely gets the best out of his players.

Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, the Youngstown native, might have inside track for Cleveland Browns' job, report says | cleveland.com
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/oklahomas_bob_stoops_the_young.html#incart_m-rpt-2


CLEVELAND -- While Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, the Youngstown native, was in the midst of battling Alabama in the Sugar Bowl Thursday night, a report surfaced that he may have the inside track on the Browns head coaching vacancy.

Rams sideline reporter and St. Louis' 101 ESPN NFL Insider Tony Softli tweeted that Stoops, who guided the Sooners to a 159-39 mark and 7-7 in bowl games before Thursday night, might have the fast track to become the Browns' seventh-fulltime coach in the new era.

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported earlier this week that Stoops might be interested in leaving OU for the NFL.

A source also told cleveland.com that the Browns, who went hard after Chip Kelly last year, are considering some college coaches.

Stoops, 53, has strong ties to the Cleveland area, and comes from a tight-knit football family. His father, Ron, was a coach at Stoops' alma mater, Youngstown Cardinal Mooney. His brother Mike is his defensive coordinator at Oklahoma, and his brother Mark is head coach at Kentucky. His older brother, Ron Jr., is an assistant at Youngstown State.

One of the most respected college coaches in the business, Stoops has guided the Sooners to a bowl game in each of his 15 seasons there. Sixty-five of Stoops' OU players have been drafted, including 13 first-rounders.

The Browns are also reportedly interested in Auburn coach Gus Malzahn and Vanderbilt coach James Franklin, according to Jason LaCanfora of CBS Sports.

The Browns' first wave of interviews this week includes Seattle defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles and Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. They're not permitted to offer jobs to coaches in the playoffs, which means they could have to wait until after the Super Bowl Feb. 2, to hire their man.

In the meantime, they're expected to turn their attention to the college ranks, and an interview with Stoops would make plenty of sense.

This would definitely be a good idea. I would be happy if we got someone like Stoops and this report was even a tad bit true. And if his interview goes well there is no waiting period for hiring him like the NFL coaches still involved in the playoffs. Haslem better have a lot of input in this and not just let Lombo blind everyone with his apparent JM love.

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... the Browns' seventh-fulltime coach in the new era.

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I guess that sounds better than the seventh fulltime coach in 14 years.

jc

Of all the names bandied around by the media so far, my number one choice would be Bowles. He did a nice job as interim HC of the Dolphins.

THe wildcard for me is Gus Malzan. I don't know enough about him to offer an intelligent opinion (when has that stopped anybody?).

Other than that, I am less than enthused with the potential HC candidates.

Now this one I can get behind. If we get Stoops, I'm excited for the Browns again.

I just came here to post that Stoops article. Man, talking about NOT getting your hopes up. They're basing it on practically NOTHING. The subject line of my latest Bleacher Report e-mail goes so far as to say, "OU's Stoops Eyeing Browns?" C'mon. . .

At this point, I really can't get excited about ANYONE. I literally have to see results on the field. I don't care who it is. Dr.Frankenstein could stitch together some crazy amalgam of all the so-called greatest candidates & I'd say, "SHOW ME."

I'm kind of half listening to 92.3 online today trying to get more info on the Stoops rumors and they said that he neither denied nor confirmed it after he was asked. His own words "that is something that is always personal and no-one ever knows". It was on the Dan Patrick Show. He also said that he was happy now but you never know down the road. He definitely went out of his way to keep it open ended. Who knows, maybe that was just lip service to get an even newer contract from OU. However, this report from earlier in the week discussing that Stoops could make the jump, don't know how I missed this one. Link.

Let me clear the smokescreen for you. Josh McDaniels will be announced as HC shortly after he is interviewed on Saturday. (That is assuming the black coach they are bringing in to satisfy the Rooney Rule keeps his appointment).

Read this article by Michael Lombardi published: Dec. 7, 2010

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81...tment-to-change

What happened to Josh McDaniels on Monday, being fired not even two full years into his tenure with the Denver Broncos, was, as Yogi Berra once said, "Déjà vu all over again." At least it was for me.

I saw this before, back in 1996, when I was director of player personnel for the Browns and owner Art Modell fired Bill Belichick over the phone on Valentine's Day. Modell struggled with the fans' reluctance to embrace their young coach from his first day on the job. Modell struggled with the losing season as the team planned to move from Cleveland to Baltimore. More than anything, he struggled with staying with the plan. Modell failed to see the future, as he wanted to make the fans happy and never felt there was more than a ripple of hope staying the course with his youthful coach.


Gregory Bull / Associated Press
Josh McDaniels started 6-0 as the Broncos' coach, but things quickly fell apart over the next 22 games.
Broncos under Josh McDaniels
1st 6 Gms Last 22 Gms
W-L 6-0 5-17
Home W-L 3-0 3-8
PPG 22.2 20.4
Opp. PPG 11.0 26.9
Having worked side by side with Belichick for five years, I honestly knew one day he was going to eventually win a Super Bowl, in part because he was super smart and had a willingness to adapt. He was always divergent in his thought process. He was, and still is, the best listener I have ever been around.

With Belichick, there was never an ego in the room. He only focused on what was urgent and important each day. He had core principles and beliefs he adhered to, never wavering off those beliefs. But in Cleveland, he could not overcome the changes he insisted on making, which alienated the fan base and caused concern for Modell. And when the 1995 season slipped away from us, we all knew we were in trouble.

In any sport, losing is extremely difficult -- it's hard on the mind, body and spirit. It challenges every prior belief an organization holds true, forcing constant evaluations of the path, the direction and the journey chosen for the organization. It is human nature to second-guess every move on a losing path. Few, in most sports, are willing to brave the losing, the criticism of the media, or the wrath of their fans. Believing in principles and having the courage to stand alone is a rarer quality than bravery in battle or superior intelligence. Yet it is the one essential for teams that desire to win Super Bowls.

When Belichick was hired in Cleveland, Modell had no idea what he had, or what Belichick could eventually become. He never thought in three dimensions, or hired with a plan; he just hoped for success, in large part because Modell based every decision on what the media and the fans thought. Modell had a wonderful heart. He wanted to make his fan base happy, therefore hiring Belichick after winning a Super Bowl with the New York Giants was great, and firing him after the fans revolted was also great -- never mind he just extended his contract.

Belichick's success in New England was due to his experience in Cleveland -- that Modell financed and Patriots owner Robert Kraft now enjoys. Any time a team hires a young coach or a young executive, one must think in a three-dimensional way. Does he have the aptitude to be a successful leader? Does he have the willingness to grow? Do we have the strength to handle the turbulent times?

Modell paid for Belichick's education as a head coach, an education that has to be lived, not learned. There are no schools to attend to be a successful coach in the NFL. And just because an assistant works for a successful coach does not ensure success when it comes time for a promotion to the head coach's chair.

When the Broncos hired McDaniels and turned over all the power to him, they had to understand there would likely be tough times. But did they?

As an outsider looking in, when the Broncos hired McDaniels, I thought they were willing to change the direction of their organization. Having spent a brief time volunteering my services as a consultant to Mike Shanahan, I saw firsthand Denver's ridiculous spending on players, the failure to have a personnel department, and the constant approach to repair as opposed to rebuild. Therefore, when the Broncos fired Shanahan following the 2008 season and decided to change the course, eliminating the free-spending of the past, the move signaled to me that they wanted to try the Patriot Way, which centers on building a total team through the draft, cut spending in free agency and develop coaches and players from within.

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Initially, it made sense to me, as most owners tend to hire the opposite of what they just fired. Firing McDaniels 28 games into his tenure as the head coach is bad for both parties. It wasn't enough time for the team to be fully developed, or enough time for McDaniels to grow into the job.

And therein lies the problem -- the Broncos wanted to change, but were not committed to change. Once they slipped into a different world, they longed to be back to their old ways of doing things. They really love the Bronco Way.

Never mind they have only won one playoff game in the last 12 years. Never mind they lack talent on the field, or are going to be paying three head coaches as a result of McDaniels' firing. Never mind they might have to take two steps back to move forward. Clearly, this move means the Broncos long for their old days, and potentially bringing John Elway back into the organization signals how much they miss those days.

Why does it seem that most of Belichick's assistants never attain a high level of success when becoming a head coach? It might appear that way on the surface, however the coaches involved with Belichick in Cleveland have done well -- from Pat Hill at Fresno State to Kirk Ferentz at Iowa to Nick Saban at Alabama.

And the ones who have only been in New England -- Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel and now McDaniels -- have missed the element of what went into developing the program in Cleveland, therefore they missed a huge step in the evolution. The failure rate among NFL coaches, regardless of their background is high. However when coaches leave an established program like the one in New England, not every owner is willing to embrace the time it takes to lay the foundation. Also, not all the new coaches carry Belichick's uncanny ability to evaluate talent, and also what his team needs to be successful.

Belichick's success lies in his ability to coach, but also in his ability to be the general manager. He can wear two hats, and not every coach that leaves the Patriots can do the same.

Broncos chief operating officer Joe Ellis said Tuesday that the team was at fault for giving McDaniels too much power too soon.

While that might be true, I believe McDaniels will one day be a successful head coach. I believe this because I know what it takes to be successful in the league. I've never worked with Josh, nor have I spent much time around him. But I have observed him each week, from his game plans to his teams' performance on the field. His teams might not have been the most talented, but they were well-coached, well-designed and well-prepared.

McDaniels will learn from his tenure in Denver, just as Belichick learned from his time in Cleveland, and some other owner willing to change will benefit greatly.

Follow Michael Lombardi on Twitter @michaelombardi.

Stoops?

Does he know Quarterbacks? The kid last night looked like the best one he's ever had. If you can't recruit a real talented QB at Oklahoma, in 10 years, then I wonder if you know what you're looking for (Bradford being the one exception).

Some of his defenses have been very weak.

Seems like Bob peaked about 10 years ago and has been going through the motions.

Do you guys think that if he came in, and brought in his own people as assistants, that there will be an improvement over last year? With Chud, Norv, and Ray?

hmm...

"Do you guys think that if he came in, and brought in his own people as assistants,"

Let's see,the 3 Stoops boys,Bo Pellini,and maybe he could talk Shepas into leaving Waynesburg.
That would be a pipeline straight to God thru Cardinal Mooney.
Of coarse you would have to add Tebow,as a translator for the infidels.

I have heard a bunch of names associated with the Browns job, some from reported interviews set up to others who are just rumors...

So I thought I'd make a list...

Interviews reported to be set up:
Josh McDaniels - Pats OC
Dan Quinn - Seahawks DC
Ken Whisenhunt - Chargers OC
Todd Bowles - Cardinals DC
Adam Gase - Broncos OC


Rumors:
Gus Malzahn - Auburn HC
James Franklin - Vanderbilt HC
Bob Stoops - Oklahoma HC

Am I missing any? From that list, there are some good candidates.. of course the one I like the least is the one everybody expects to get the job...

I think that's accurate right now.

Wait, what happened,, I thought that JMcD was the "Chosen One"

Boy are we gonna get a lot of this kinda story in the coming weeks.

As for Stoops, better than most I've seen linked to the Browns lately. Actually, better than anyone I've seen linked to the Browns lately..LOL

Well, if you remember last year's GM search we were linked to Lombardi ... then other names popped up .... like Farmer and others ........ then we bounced back to Lombardi.

As far as the head coach search, we were all in on Kelly ..... till he did the unthinkable and pulled out of the Browns search. Then the Browns front office went back to square one, and "started over". They watched Buffalo hire Doug Marrone, who they were supposedly high on. They interviewed some other guys who this year are off the list. Why? Is it because they liked them only until they interviewed them, then lost interest? Maybe ... but I doubt it. Was it because those candidates expressed .... shall we say, reservations, over the way the Browns were structuring their front office and team, and the way decisions were going to be made? Perhaps those candidates wanted more power and authority than the Browns were willing to offer? Maybe some wanted to be the final word, as opposed to leaving that "tiebreaker" vote to Banner? Maybe some even turned the Browns down, not feeling comfortable with the way the Browns outlined the job to prospective head coaches?

The general consensus is that Bill O'Brien was the top "young" coaching candidate available this year. We talked to O'Brien last year, and he didn't want to leave Penn State. Should that have disqualified him for this year?

I really think that the Browns got push back on the way they wanted to do things from some candidates. Some may have expressed reservations over the way the Browns have set their team up. Maybe some wanted to "shop for the groceries". Who knows? However, to flat out disregard everyone they talked to last year is curious, at best.

Anyway, so now we are back to square one, starting over once more.

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I think Gase has deferred talking to anyone until after they're out of contention, and has not committed to interview with the Browns at all at this point. IMHO, he will be highly desirable and least likely to come here.

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Or... could he be the guy and has accepted the job as the Browns HC.... This could be his way of saying.. " I have a job... so I don't want to deal with having to interview with other teams "

Hey ! Ya never know....

Oh I know Ytown. I get it. I wonder how many others do. I mean if you read some of these posts, you'd think that he's the guy and there is not even a chance that anyone else may be considered.

And, he may be. I understand that it's possible.

I don't know how he's banner first choice. I understand the connection between Belichick and Lombardi that could lead one to believe he's Lombardis first choice. But Banner?

And does Haslam even know the guy? well, I mean, he probably does now, but did he before the other day? Don't know.

Anyway, at this point, just about anything is possible and I know that.

Just havin fun with all the different reports.

I do think Stoops might be a good choice. But beyond that, I don't have a horse in the race.

Mary Kay Cabot is reporting that Jim Tressel will be interviewing for the HC job within a few days.

Browns Country reported a team's spokesmen said the report about Tressel is "Totally false".

It's on my Facebook wall.

On an unrelated topic - Vikings reported to interview Ray Horton on Tuesday:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ton-on-tuesday/

I can't possibly fathom Tressel being on the Brown's wish list. Can you?