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Not sure if I am understanding you correctly but there is no counter offer. If he signs a contract with Jacksonville, we either match that contract and he plays for us under that contract or we decline to match and he plays for them under that contract.
Poorly stated, but if we match, it is a counter offer. The transition tag gives the Browns right of refusal. If we refuse to match, it is the same as 'no offer'.
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In the end, it is just a business.
Mack and his agent are doing what is in the rules. The Browns made a gamble when they used the transition tag. I suspect that the Browns will match.
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Well, the offensive line is key to offensive success. A solid O-line improves everyone. We have a good nucleus now, and letting a Pro Bowl center go won't help. He'd have to be replaced, yeah, cheaper, but better? Just as good?
Losing someone that good when there are other gaping holes (QB / RB) doesn't make much sense.
I think all the salaries in big-time pro sports are ridiculous, so why not give him a ridiculous salary, too?? Yeah, I think it's too much, but, again, I think they all get ridiculous salaries.
I remember a St. Louis Rams punter a few years ago who'd retired, but came back because the Rams' punter got hurt. Local TV reporter asked the guy who came out of retirement why he did it. He answered frankly: "Where else can I find a job that pays half-a-million dollars for six months work?"
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Per a league source, it’s a fairly straightforward contract.
Despite speculation that the deal will include a 2015 balloon payment requiring a restructuring that Mack would do in Jacksonville but refuse to do in Cleveland, the offer sheet as currently constructed doesn’t put the Browns in a bind of that nature. It does, however, include a provision that can void the deal at the player’s election to as little as two years.
According to the source, the deal pays out roughly $18 million to $20 million over the first two years, fully guaranteed. Over three, it’s in the ballpark of $27 million, guaranteed.
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Alex Mack really like him. Wished him the best of luck with the Jaguars. But really Drew Rosenhauls is indeed a snake. Could say worse but will leave it at that.
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If that's the contract then we match it no problem.
Not having to pay a QB for a few years is really going to be helping us in this case.
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That was my thinking too. He supposedly has an opt out clause after 2 years too. So we pay him $20m for 2 years - cheaper than if we franchised him. I'm having a difficult time figuring out how, if this info is correct, Jacksonville thinks they have a 50/50 shot at him.
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Whether they (Jacksonville) get Mack or not, Mack is choosing Jacksonville over Cleveland, after five seasons with the Browns.
This entire article is very anti-Cle, and while I'm used to it, I don't understand biased towards Jacksonville... Did our current FO ever even offer Mack a deal? Because as far as I know we allowed him to go out and find a deal... Knowing we could mach it...
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On one hand, the Browns could immediately match the offer, because the last thing the Browns need is another embarrassment.
I don't really see losing Mack as an "Embarrassment" Especially if it's a logical conclusion (that PFT makes themselves) that the deal is overpaying Mack...
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Really? Knee-jerk reaction? Tagging someone so we can match any offer... and then matching the offer... is a knee-jerk reaction? Jeeez...
Overall I'm used to crappy writing from PFT... But this article, and the general tone of it, really annoyed me...
The article is about how the Jags think theres a 50-50 shot at getting Mack, and all they talk about is "LOL THE BROWNS SUCK!"
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Seems like the contract was built to where if the Browns match, it's a defacto franchise tag for two years.
No doubt in my mind we should match. Won't be heart broken if we don't, because I understand if they don't want someone in the locker room who doesn't want to be here, but financially, I'd still make the deal.
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Not having to pay a QB for a few years is really going to be helping us in this case.
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If true, it's an easy match. I don't really care about paying a center too much, if we're way under the cap.
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If that's the contract then we match it no problem.
Not having to pay a QB for a few years is really going to be helping us in this case.
And when we land our QB THIS YEAR, after the 1st 2 years of this deal Mack will see we have arrived and will NOT opt out. 
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Should the Jags sign Mack to a contract the Browns cant match and we let Mack walk, & they both agree to restructure the contract afterwards, I being the Browns would file a suit against the Jags becuase of this, one because you cant show us one contact and than live bye a diffrent one, wouldnt that be under false representation or something, whatever the Browns are shown and unable to match needs to be the contract in place for the life of that contract, if the NFL dosent back it or make Jacksonville honor the original contract than the whole rule is bogus,
If the original contract Mack signs and the Browns except or reject is altered in any way the Browns get another say in matching it or passing on it, becuase if they change it in anyway, than it's not the same contract.
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Guess it is just an issue of semantics. I view a counter offer as us saying that contract that you signed is okay but consider this instead (which is not an option) and you are considering a counter offer as we will offer you the same thing. I don't like your use because to me it implies that Mack then has a choice as to which he takes. But he doesn't.
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Our current guys didn't really get a chance for an offer - the table was set prior. Banner was playing a little hardball and was waiting for the season to end to make the offer...then came the firings with Chud which really PO'd Mack and at that point had made up in his mind to leave Cleveland - Yeah no offer was made - shortly after as we hired our new coach the FO was fired. And the New Regime took over.
One of their first acts as a Group was to fly en mass to the West Coast and visit him. It was at this time he first said if he plays in Cleveland it won't be bad. The Tag was there cause it was too late for an offer as he was going to see what was out there in offers.
The agent seemed very bitter - Possibly there was burnt bridges with Banner vs Agent??? Banner does play hardball and is not known to be an agent friendly guy if I remember reading some things over the years.
There is Brotherhood in football and I'm sure he is tight with Joe Thomas. I still don't see a possible poison pill we cannot handle.
I read writers saying that Mack doesn't want to play here...and then there is Mack stating the opposite. I can only assume it is the agent who texts the writers with that info as he doesn't want his client to play here.
Oh and the OL - not the Bible but the site that many here state is the most revered site regarding OL and statistics for the OL - had us ranked at #5 in the NFL for OL 2013.
Hopefully we will upgrade.
One thing I have learned about football over the years. Almost everyone is replaceable and a good team will move on and prosper without a player. With exception to QB. So if our destiny is to become winners without Mack...so be it - It will be his loss more than ours. We'll see who is in a position to win 2-3 years from now. Jags or us.
Hoping Mack stays and the contract IF HE SIGNS - not sure did he sign it yet. We will match and have him here for 5 years.
If the agent thinks by loading up 2015 cause we got to sign several players is the trick...we will see.
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This is true, but there are certain things that you don't do in business. You don't publicly state how you really don't like your employer and then talk with other possible employers to set your pay rate.
Personally, I'm surprised that the Browns haven't shown him the door yet. They have showed remarkable restraint and patience. They're trying to be pragmatic about what many of their customers want and give them the product that they demand.
The customer doesn't know that what they want is a 3-door compact vehicle and are willing to pay for a luxury vehicle price for it.
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True, they are doing what is within the rules. They're acting like used car salesmen. They've cleaned the interior of the car, washed the outside of the vehicle and so on. Now they have a prospective buyer (Jacksonville) and they're rushing to get the papers signed because someone else is on the lot circling around the car. They're wanting to close one deal and move to the next person quickly.
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This is true, but there are certain things that you don't do in business. You don't publicly state how you really don't like your employer and then talk with other possible employers to set your pay rate.
Ok, I guess I missed the part where he said he doesn't like the Browns.. When did he do that?
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How about a very good rookie player? Remember, 5 years ago, Mack was a rookie player. Has the team won more games with each successive year with him at center?
The problem with fans is that too many of us latch onto players and are willing to do ANYTHING (literally ANYTHING) to keep them. It wouldn't matter if they are worth selling our team to keep around or not. We just want to keep them on our teams at any cost. We overvalue them.
We saw the same type of comments about TJ Ward, D'Qwell Jackson and to a lesser extent, even Brandon Weeden. We saw the same comments when Chudzinski was fired. We saw it when Banner and Lombardi were fired, albeit to a lesser extent.
As fans, we have to come to terms with it. The Browns have been futile for far too long. We shouldn't overpay to keep a player here, no matter what position he plays.
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This is true, but there are certain things that you don't do in business. You don't publicly state how you really don't like your employer and then talk with other possible employers to set your pay rate.
Ok, I guess I missed the part where he said he doesn't like the Browns.. When did he do that?
He was interviewed and said that he wanted to go to a winning team and one that was stable where there wasn't so much turnover in the coaching staff every year.
He's a laughable joke. Let the jackass go to Jacksonville.
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Match the offer, then trade him to Jax.
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If the reports are true about some of the contract details, it doesn't look favorable for either team that ends up with him. It's interesting that Jacksonville created the contract this way, but just like us, they aren't anywhere in the vicinity towards signing a big name QB to a monster deal. Plus, the cap will increase over the next couple of years according to previous reports just before FA. So I guess in that light, projecting the future offseason positions may have been in JAX's thinking. The only thing that may be different between the two teams (but admittedly have not looked at JAX roster as it pertains to worthy players entering FA next offseason) is that Cleveland has a ton of decisions to make in 2015 regarding their own guys-- like Sheard, Cameron, Haden, Taylor, Skrine, etc. But then again, we could punt someone like Kruger after most of his guaranteed money is paid IF he doesn't prove as valuable as his contract. How will giving Mack all that guaranteed money effect their plans with other players they want to wrap up long term?
Still, this deal vastly overpays the center position (which could have long-term effects in the market) and Mack can get out of dodge after two years. Talk about player-friendly!
But I still think the Browns will and should match it. We need him for his intelligence and his fit in the zone scheme. This is not a rebuilding team, they want to win now and Mack helps that cause.
Unless there is some backroom conversation that Mack wants out and the team thinks his mindset will effect his own performance and the players around him, I lean toward the team matching this deal....as it's been reported in the media.
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I lean toward the team matching this deal....
As do I, Memphis, but I am seriously torn on this issue...
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As do I, Memphis, but I am seriously torn on this issue...
Yeah I am too, he is an obvious talent... but we are overpaying... now much is openfor debate and most importantly....and I say this about any player we have... what exactly have we won with the players on our rsoster.... nothing.
And EO is correct if I have learned anything in sports or business... everyione is replaceable.
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How about a very good rookie player? Remember, 5 years ago, Mack was a rookie player. Has the team won more games with each successive year with him at center?
Mack wasn't just a rookie, he was a First Round selection. Perhaps the best center to come out of that draft. Are you suggesting we spend a 1st round pick on a center? or are you saying we can get one in later rounds that's as good as Mack?
As for if we won more games with him at center, are you saying he's the reason we haven't won?
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This is true, but there are certain things that you don't do in business. You don't publicly state how you really don't like your employer and then talk with other possible employers to set your pay rate.
Ok, I guess I missed the part where he said he doesn't like the Browns.. When did he do that?
He was interviewed and said that he wanted to go to a winning team and one that was stable where there wasn't so much turnover in the coaching staff every year.
He's a laughable joke. Let the jackass go to Jacksonville.
Ok, I missed where he said any of that,, can you help a fellow dawg out and point me in the direction of those quotes? thanks in advance..
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Very true, tld. While there are few plug-n-play replacements, given a year or two with a quality drafted rookie...
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Just saw this and I apologize if it's already been posted... Quote:
Browns reportedly to match Alex Mack offer sheet
By Kevin Patra
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Published: April 10, 2014 at 07:55 a.m.
Updated: April 10, 2014 at 08:36 a.m.
Alex Mack agreed to terms on an offer sheet with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but that doesn't mean he'll be changing addresses.
Once the center signs the offer sheet, the Cleveland Browns figure to match the five-year deal "in no time at all," ESPN reported Thursday morning.
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The idea the Browns will match is not new. A report last week stated the team would match an offer "in a second" and owner Jimmy Haslam hinted as much earlier this week.
The only pause in the discussion came Wednesday amid reports that Mack really wanted out of Cleveland. NFL Media columnist Michael Silver reported that the Browns told Mack when slapping him with the transition tag that they wouldn't hold him hostage if he wanted to leave.
One big reveal in the ordeal will be the details of the offer sheet Mack is poised to sign. ProFootballTalk reported the deal would pay out "roughly $18 million to $20 million" guaranteed in the first two seasons. Given that number, it would be a no-brainer for the Browns to match -- they'd be getting him cheaper than if they paid the transition and franchise tag the next two seasons.
The report also added an interesting nugget: The offer sheet includes a clause allowing the player to void the deal after two seasons.
If true, that is a big indicator Mack's camp believes the Browns will match the offer. The player wants the power to test free agency again in short order if new Browns coach Mike Pettine's regime ends as swiftly as all others have during Mack's time in Cleveland.
We could be staring at a rerun of the "Alex Mack Football Saga" in 2016. Can't wait.
Anarchy,, is this part of what you are talking about about him wanting out of Cleveland?
Anyway, if you have him quoted as saying he want's out, I'd really like to read that.. Thanks
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Fair enough. Match the deal - we have him for two seasons. Draft his replacement in this coming draft...
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This is a freaking circus, I am really starting to not like Alex Mack very much. a 2 year clause opt out clause? What a freaking joke.
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This is a freaking circus, I am really starting to not like Alex Mack very much. a 2 year clause opt out clause? What a freaking joke.
It's an insurance plan so in case the Browns match and in 2 years we are doing a regime change again he can opt out and go somewhere else. I have no problem with this.
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I think Mack is a very good center...I'd like to have him back.
However, didn't the Steelers go thru (3) or more Centers last year? Did their OL look and worse with any of the (3). I think I remember one of the backups looking pretty darn good...might even have been the 3rd guy.
Didn't the Chargers backup C maul the Bengals in last year's playoff game?
I want him back if he wants to be here...but it seems as if he does not. I know he isn't saying those words, but he has convinced Jax to jump thru a lot of hoops for maybe nothing. That makes me think he wants out. Maybe it's just him going after the $$$.
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This is a freaking circus, I am really starting to not like Alex Mack very much. a 2 year clause opt out clause? What a freaking joke.
It's an insurance plan so in case the Browns match and in 2 years we are doing a regime change again he can opt out and go somewhere else. I have no problem with this.
Chances he doesn't opt out and try to get more money in 2 years regardless of team success are microscopic.
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in 2 yeras if he opts out -- franchise his ass... just to be a . about it.  then let teams deal with us to get him.
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At this point, I'd say let him go to the Jags then and let us move on... I don't want to hear Alex Mack and contract and etc two years from now while paying him top of the line $. Let us just find another center without any of the added language of this-n-that bullcrap, one that is happy and wanting to be here and believes in the system/staff/etc and Alex can goto Jacksonville and still be on a losing team years from now or he can move to London when they move... the joke will be on him in the end. I'm losing respect for Alex on a daily bases now it seems. I don't blame him for going after more money if that's the case, for wanting out if he wants out or whatever, but I'm getting done with the hoop-la. A two year opt-out clause? Does he really think he'll have it better there in Jacksonville in two years? They've been sucking for years Alex... hello. A two year opt-out clause (although I understand the meaning behind it) is an insult to Mike, Kyle, Farmer and Jimmy and the entire Browns organization IMO. That is a gesture of no faith on Alex's behalf.
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I don't get all the Mack hate. It is April 10th and training camp is still months away. What will happen when a player actually holds out?
So he is negotiating... that is exactly what you do in free agency, which is effectively what the transition tag is. He got a favorable offer from another team. Well he's a good, reliable, consistent player in his prime; he should get a good offer.
OF COURSE he wants to leave. Seriously take off the Browns glasses and realize that this will be his 6th year in the league..... and his 4th head coach, 2nd team owner, and the team has not won more than 5 games since he has been here. Yeah I know that Jacksonville hasn't had the greatest track record either, but at least the weather is nice and he stands to gain hundreds of thousands of dollars per year of after-tax income by playing in Florida.
I'm just saying... if the Browns match and Mack shows up to work, practices and plays hard for 2 or however many years, he has fulfilled his duties as a player and then some as far as I'm concerned. This is the guy that played after having an appendectomy.
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Match the offer, then trade him to Jax.
That makes no sense. The article says 18-20M guaranteed. We trade him and the whole 18-20m would hit our cap this year.
If you match, then match and keep him. Otherwise, don't match.
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Thank you !!! Wasn't Demoff Albert Bell's agent also? These agents (attorneys) don't give a darn about their clients just lining their own pockets. These agents have free agent market locked up like they have court rooms fixed-can't negoiate as self and always want extra cash day of court appearence for their self.
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That and Jacksonville is surely already going to the limits of what they are willing to pay them. Adding a significant draft pick on top of that makes absolutely no sense for them.
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This is a freaking circus, I am really starting to not like Alex Mack very much. a 2 year clause opt out clause? What a freaking joke.
It's an insurance plan so in case the Browns match and in 2 years we are doing a regime change again he can opt out and go somewhere else. I have no problem with this.
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I think its a win win.
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