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I believe a lot of the terminology is the same from last year too.

If DeFilippo is to be believed, yes.

No, If I were saying that, I would have said it.

What I am saying is that this is an argument about very little. There are numerous productive ways that material can be presented. I'm also putting the unconfirmed "100 installed plays" remark in context with the entirety of Hartline's comments. When I read Hartline's remarks I didn't sense any confusion, frustration or uncertainty. What I took from his overall statement was excitement, enthusiasm and readiness to get things going.

Ultimately what I'm care about are results on the field. If I start hearing that guys are confused about their roles. Play calls are too long and complex or how the old scheme was better or easier to understand, then I'll have a reason to be concerned. It will take more than three words to set my hair on fire.

Nothing personal, I absolutely understand your concern and I do agree with it, but I think those concerns at this juncture are lacking context.

We have a new first time OC, Manziel is back, its year 2 for Pet who just led us to 7-9 (and with consistent average QB play likely the doorstep of the playoffs), its a new season, etc etc... there's a lot of excitement and the author is paid to help whip that up. I think saying a 100 plays while has SOME basis in truth, I also think its likely a bit of an exaggeration to portray BIG things are going on.

I mean honestly, if the headline read: Mike Pet's New High Energy OC Flip installs 5 plays on First Day... don't you think most people would find it rather underwhelming?

The biggest problem IMO is that the author used the term "installed".

Think he said that HE would learn the new terminology rather than the whole team "worshipping" his playbook. That impressed me as a solid coaching move.

Thanx.

I thought our "new identity" thang was pathetic as much as historical IMO.

j/c

I think the entire term of "New identity" is quite foolish.

I mean we lost our last 5 games in a row. Once Hoyer lost his effectiveness, we really were not good at running or passing the ball.

To me our O entered this season without ANY identity. You have to have an identity to begin with, before you can create a new one.

Why should we care at this point if they have an identity?

At this point we need a QB way more.....

Hmmm so they can never have an identity by your statement, since they need one to create a NEW one and they now have none so a new one can never be created.

At this point we need "the right QB".

We've had the wrong one over and over again.

No, it's called creating an identity. You can't re-create something you never had.

If they create one it would be a new identity and you stated they can't create one because they never had one.

New identity suggests you're replacing the old identity. When you have no identity, you have to create one to begin with.

You're purely debating semantics here.

Well no matter what happens, I hope we finally find an identity!

at this point, I'd consider endorsing the idea of identity theft

Haha, well done.

I just hope our new identity is not sucking. That would be great.

Can't be, that wouldn't be new.

Not sucking would most definitely be new.

So it's not a new born baby, it's just a born baby.. since it wasn't a baby before.

We had an identity. It was running the ball when everyone knew we were going to run the ball.

Ok, I read your comment completely different..

If you read it, I just hope our new identity isn't sucking.. it has a whole different meaning.. but I see what you meant now.

I see what you are saying I just misinterpreted what posted before.

That was a funny run of comments. lol

Yep.

Isn't that sort of what we're doing by keeping most of what Shanny left?? lol

For that volume I bet the offense will be some kind of read option. Give the guys 20 plays then use a coded system to call out the routes for up to 5 variations. They call a formation and the QB reads the defense and yells out adjustments to the WR. Boom instantly a different play while still being the same. Just keep it to 5 base sets during preseason and teach teh QB to change the WR route based on the defense he sees. One code for the route and one code for the distance to run it. Simple and done.

We now have a plethora of Defensive lineman to play WR, TE and QB!
Great going "texting" GM!

Take a deep breath, step back, and look at our entire roster now.

Who in our division has a better roster in its entirety?

The D is shaping up, but there is no offense still.

Quick change.

We have a mediocre passing offense.

mediocre? Have you looked at our QB's?

That would help the league cut down on injuries

Good news is that we have 100 pass plays,now wejust lacking receivers...

lol

Bradford might damage his knee taking a stack of papers to the shredder