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gordon has that long striding gate and every coach he had said he has to work on his cuts on routes. always rounding them out. if he can run the go route, WR screen and crossing route starting at the LOS and catch 50% of the passes thrown his way......

This really is one of those times where we can't lose. If he makes it as a WR or TE or Slash, good for us. If he doesn't, we've not invested heavy in him..

Win Win

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He is not making the team anyway, so your roster point will make this silly fantasy academic anyway.

Gordon is very similar in that respect. They probably are planning on trying him for mostly 4, 7, 8, 9 routes like teams typically do with guys like him. That's my guess anyways.

Gordon seemed to look the same way, like he is running lazy but still gliding past people.

I don't think that is the point.

The point is that long-striders are typically not good route runners. They don't cut well. They don't change direction well. They are not precise.

Pryor was successfully long-striding before Gordon was. Those of us who follow Ohio State, know that.

While that is an admirable trait in running by people, it isn't really what the WR position is about. Gordon was/is a freak. However, you don't see a ton of long-striders stick around too long at WR.

I think that you almost have to build some flexibility into your offense if you have a guy like Gordon (when he was doing great) on the field. You have to allow him to freelance a little bit, and that can really throw off the rest of the offense. It is a really delicate balancing act. A is here, B is here, C is here, and the other receiver is going to be working to get open in this general area. I remember a game last year where Austin got open in the end zone for a TD by doing a beautiful job of getting open against press by doing a great job of chopping his feet, then reversing direction, and completely losing the DB that was covering him. I cannot see Gordon doing anything like that. Gordon has different abilities,and if you throw a pass in the direction of Gordon, 12 feet in the air, there is a chance he could come down with it. He is not a guy who can use a quick step to set up a DB in a short area though.

You also have to have some degree of trust with a guy like Gordon, and until last year from game 11 or so on, that trust was justified. Then Gordon had all kinds of problems,znd lost that trust. He had one game where he was pretty effective ..... and then he seemed to regress badly.

I think that is a problem the Shanahan offense had, as opposed to the Norv Turner offense. Norv allowed some degree of freelance for Gordon, and accepted it as necessary for him. I don't believe that Shanahan did. This is probably due, in no small part,to the fact that Shanahan did not have Gordon for 10 games, and Norv only lost Gordon for 2 games, and the offense stayed fresh in Gordon's mind in 2013. That is also huge.

I think that Gordon can be a major weapon on offense, but he needs someone to hold him to the grindstone. It needs to be clear to him that he has a role, and that he needs to stay within that role ...... but for him, that role needs to be a little "looser" than the rest of the team. He is special in that he can get open seemingly at will, and just flat out run away from people. You can't take that away from him, but he also can't just do whatever he wants on the field. It's a very fine line for the coaches, and Gordon to walk.

Maybe even give him a shot at QB, if Manziel doesn't step up.
Interesting article that explains how Pryor was set up for failure with the Raiders:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2037649-what-went-wrong-for-terrelle-pryor-in-oakland

Although not seeming likely at the moment, this is not out of the realm of possibility. Indeed, it may present some interesting options and also a way to keep him on the roster if he is not overly successful at WR...

to tab's question, he's got the stride of a thoroughbred racehorse.

He has some wiggle in his moves, but yeah, slants, flies, bubble screens, fades are what he'll probably run.

As you know, long striders struggle w/the nuances of route running. YTown mentioned earlier that Gordon had more freedom to just do his own thing two years ago and that you gotta give long striders that freedom. I don't really agree w/that, but he brings up an interesting point because you just have to know what types of routes these guys can run. Ultimately, most of them aren't that successful. Oh, and I think the problems Gordon had last year were all about him and not about scheme.

I still see Pryor [if he makes the team--and that is a big if] as a slash guy. Kick-off returns, WR where he runs some of the routes we suggested, line him up at qb on a few plays, bring him in motion and either hand it to him or use him as a decoy, etc.

I don't think he is going to develop into some big-time WR in the NFL. I think the odds of him making the team are long, but again, bringing him in was/is worth a shot. Nothing to lose.

Interesting stuff there.

Thanks

You peeps really get me. How many teams has this clown been on already??

Let's cut all of our QB's and WR's and TE's (which is OK with me)...
Terrelle is here!!!!

Terry Pluto

ABOUT TERRELLE PRYOR

I've always thought Pryor should be able to do something to help an NFL team.

The former Ohio State star is not an NFL-caliber quarterback. He doesn't pass well enough. He was 3-6 in starts for Oakland in 2013. Overall, he completed 56 percent of his passes, 12 interceptions and nine touchdowns. The quarterback rating was 69.3.

No reason for optimism there.

But Pryor was effective running the ball, 576 yards in 93 carries. That's an excellent 6.7 average. In 2013, he ran for 112 yards against Indianapolis, 106 vs. Pittsburgh and 94 vs. Philadelphia. The man is a very gifted physical athlete.

The Browns say they will be looking at Pryor as a receiver, a position that he has never played. My guess is the "receiver" label will be a big tent to hold the various roles he can fill. New offensive coordinator John DeFilippo was quarterbacks coach in Oakland (2012-14) with Pryor. He knows that if you can find a way to put the ball in his hands with some room to run, he can be effective.

Pryor costs the Browns virtually nothing, as he was cut by the Bengals. He is worth a long, serious tryout in training camp.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/07/cleveland_browns_have_terry_ta_10.html

Absolutely, as most on here believe...

'Browns have options with Terrelle Pryor, but the practice squad isn’t one'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...squad-isnt-one/

Posted by Nick Mensio on July 13, 2015, 9:39 AM EDT

Since new Browns quarterback-turned-wide receiver Terrelle Pryor has two accrued seasons under his belt, he’s no longer eligible for an NFL practice squad, even after the league and Players Association agreed to looser eligibility guidelines prior to last season.

That doesn’t mean the Browns don’t have options with Pryor. Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer believes if Pryor shows enough as a pass catcher and on special teams, he could stick around in a roster spot designated for the No. 3 quarterback behind Josh McCown and Johnny Manziel or fill in as an extra tight end.

Pryor has already said he’s competing as a “slash” player without a real position. He’s simply trying to make it as a playmaking football player who has the ability to bring it to the house any time he gets the ball in his hands. He’ll be a gadget player in Cleveland should he make the 53-man roster.



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I saw a video of him making a one handed catch, nice catch but appeared to lose footing coming outta his break on the route.

IDK, I don't think Pryor makes the team, Ill even go as far to say I don't think he makes the first wave of roster cuts.

Vers, good stuff. My question is speed. Can he outlet a secondary? Because if he is a TE candidate, I figure he lacks deep go speed. And cannot block yet.

He makes me a little curious, but not holding a lot of hope here.

the guy burnt an entire steelers defense running the ball.

i think speed is the last thing we need to be worried about.

I'm kinda wondering why this is still a topic of discussion. I mean, in a few weeks, they'll all show up in camp, he'll get a shot, if he can do the job, he'll get a job, if he can't, he won't.

I'm kinda wondering why you would comment on it. If you don't like it, don't read it.

You see the oxymoron here right?

I am sure you do.

It just seems odd when people say not to discuss football topics on a football message board. What the heck else are we supposed to do?

Well we could just complain about everybody else's posts

I'm always game for a Teddy Bridgewater discussion.

Connor Shaw we hardly knew you.

Have they cut this clown (Pryor) yet?

Go to he VIKINGS board they will discuss him with you

But Teddy is the savior of the NFL!

You guys are soooooooo clever.

j/c

Had beers with an old friend Tuesday afternoon. He is a big Buckeye honk and staunch Browns fan.

He thinks the Browns will keep 7 WRs...yeah...7.

Bowe, Hartline, Gabriel, Hawkins, Benjamin, Jennings, & Pryor.

He has Mayle on the PS.

I think he's nuts sometimes...I know I'm nuts sometimes.

My biggest question about Pryor is will he get up after taking multiple hard licks...he was a protected QB, taught to slide, avoid hits...his body looks good enough and he's close to Gordon size wise...wonder if he'll block and take a thumping.....GO Browns!!!

What's Terrelle Pryor doing to become a WR for the Cleveland Browns?

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss..._social_feature

He is in great shape and that one handed catch (see link above) was impressive.

3rd_and_20, nice to see who Gordon is hanging out with during his suspension too.

As much as the Browns have opportunities simply fall apart as soon as they arrive, it sure would be nice having both Pryor and Gordon be the very thing that bears fruit.

Thinking what our receiver corp could look like in the future Gordon, Pryor, Mayle, Hawkins, and Gabriel really set things up nicely. I understand a lot has to happen to make that group a reality. If...that would be one scary group to face.

It certainly could be just that, but I don't know where Gordon's head is at anymore, I really don't.

Terrell Pryor will be the surprise player of the NFL in 2015!!!