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I liked him when he was here, and I think that he's a sharp offensive coach.

Would it be Hue or Haslam hiring an OC? Haslam, yes?

And I agree, I would like it if we kept Hue and got an OC, but I think Hue is probably gonna get the boot.

He's going to get head coach interviews.

Hopefully here?

I'd rather see

Devicedawg, Vers, Superbrown, Spiritbro, Diam, CHS, or a couple others as our new HC then another year of Hue.

eotab, cfrs, endromeo

I love me some parades as well! Vers, you up for it? Get your staff from this board? Maybe we ought to hire from top finishers in the fantasy league?

What is our scouts status going into draft? Is Dorsey bringing some? Training ours? Shooting problems on sight? On site?

Hope he gives us some edge and some age and some talent and a viable QB!

Rich Gannon, please.

He knows much about the Awwwwwfense.

I think Hue's playcalling is kind of wobbly and seems to be easy to anticipate, i can usually predict it anyway. Thoughts?

Especially wonky in red zone. He places a premium on tricky, gadget, unexpected, bizarre, or just hasn't worked so why call it now. Seems to get dumber the closer to the goal line he gets. An OC in the booth might help much. Kick it immediately inside the 30! He is easy to anticipate.

Just steamroll some people. Silly palette of plays needs thrown out. Somebody has to do better to carry Kizer's turnover ability and his stupid decisions. Don't think he has grown at all there. But, hey, aren't we number one there in the NFL?

Kinda redefines "loss leader" in an ironic sort of way, neh?

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017...ns-carson-wentz

I take back every bad thing I ever said about DeFlippo, which was a lot of things. It sounds like he knows what it takes to prepare for a game in the NFL.

I liked DeFlippo.

He wasn't the reason for canning Pettine. Pettine blindly following O'Neil into the abyss was the reason for firing Pettine. DeFlippo was just a casualty of situation

Does anyone think that if Hue Jackson stays and hires an offensive coordinator, that that coordinator will be anything more than a puppet?

The only question will be steel or twine stings.

Puppet or not, I don't care, if I thought it would produce wins.

The Problem I have is I believe Hue's ceiling is 3 wins next year if he stays. Assuming best case everything else.

With a 1 and 30 record, 3 wins is at best, pie in the sky.

I'm not sure I'm reading you here.

At least for myself, I was hoping that we'd keep DeFilipo when Pettine was fired. DeFilipo didn't seem to get a chance (probably because Hue didn't know him)



But offensively, I was impressed with what he put together with he players that we had. My only issue with him was that he didn't run the ball enough. It's one of the reasons Shannahan was a better OC.



I'm not playing Monday Morning QB. I always liked DeFilipo. Especially for a guy in his first year as OC

That would be a really interesting interview, especially with the new hire involved. take Hue up a notch & get him some help and a viable QB. The packers' OC seems to have something loaded all the time. The bigger half is the QB; a major part is OC and game planning.

Hue has earned the move to take him out of the loop with almost 30 losses and has shown he cannot right his ship (which is himself). He has plenty of other HC stuff to do.

This might be a fabulous hire.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000900056/article/whos-safe-whos-out-afc-coaches-on-hot-seat

We can't get anything right.

Which part, keeping Hue or Dorsey hiring the OC instead of Hue or both?

Anyway you slice it, until Haslam hires someone to run the team and have the important people report to, this team will never be better.

The part I put in bold. I am resigned to the fact that Hue Jackson is coming back. Not letting him hire his own staff is just pouring gasoline on the fire.

Hue was hired because of what he did as an OC. Now, the Browns are discussing hiring an OC for Hue and relieving him of duties on the the skill-set he was largely hired based upon.

I have seen zero tangible evidence on gameday where Hue has demonstrated his gamed acumen creates an edge for the team. So, why is he being retained (according to Haslam)?

This has Mangini lame duck written all over it.

I hope Dorsey his Dorsey, Ken!

I wouldn't get too upset about that. Probably just the writer being lazy. Dorsey wants an OC hired for sure but that doesn't mean that he is the one picking.

Im sure whoever it is will eventually become the interim HC next year when Hue again fails to win a game halfway through the season.

This can't be right...certainly not the norm. A helter-skelter way to do business, if true.

Still don't think Hue will have any of it. In his mind he is the man. He has the answers. I don't see it ending well... again.

Indeed...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...call-plays/amp/

Jimmie Johnson on why he thinks HC shouldn’t call their own plays.



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I think people are reading too much into the loose journalism from that article saying no Dorsey would hire an OC. And technically he’s right because the GM does all the ‘hiring’. If Dorsey is the football guy everyone says he knows the HC needs to hire his OC.

I'll take on the hiring responsibility for Dorsey and Hue. Now does anyone have Ken Dorsey's phone number?

I am not sure hiring a an offensive coordinator will help that much. Hue is an offensive coordinator first. That is why he was brought here to find and develop our franchise QB and to build an offense. So far these 2 areas are our weakest on the team. Will Hue give way to someone else running the offense? Will his ego let him? This can not be Hue's choice to release control of the offense and play calling. It's being forced on him. I don't see how this will work.

Why Ken? Because of the adaptability of the Panthers offense?

My top choice is Mike McCoy, the use the same verbiage on offense and he’s been seen both side of HC/OC relationship.

Then Hue goes and gets a stuffed shirt. A puppet or a yes man. I think Hues ego is BIG. I don't like the way he's conducted his business this season. Not very professional.

I think Dorsey is very smart. Colt McCoy has more talent than Dorsey ever did, but Dorsey was able to stay in the NFL for a long time. And I think that gives him a lot of perspective in the league that's rapidly evolved. When he was drafted you could go to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman, by the time he retired you'd need a franchise QB just to sniff the game. He has helped reign in Cam over the years and saw the Panthers to the Super Bowl. Offense is quickly becoming a young man's game and I think he's the next up. I think him and Hue could do wonders for Kizer or whoever we draft. I think Hue knows the game very well, but has not been prepared for the paradigm shift known as the option. Watching Hue call option plays makes my eyes bleed as I see all the blown assignments and moronic moves his players make. I think he needs to get a young guy in there who can help him flesh out the details and iron out the kinks.

McCoy would be an interesting option, but I am afraid of retreads being offensive coordinators. But having someone who can keep Hue's focus on the overall team would no doubt be very helpful to us.

I agree about the youth movement on the offensive side of the ball.
The best offenses seem to be coordinated by younger guys who learned a system then added their ideas.