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I really expect to see a pretty powerful team.
No real reason we can't be playing meaningful games in late Nov and Dec. I mean games that have playoff implications for us.
The past 2 years we have been out of the hunt by mid October. I agree 100% Peen. My expectations exactly.
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I think the sports writers in this country need to HAMMER these kinds of articles until dimwitted people get the picture!
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Caught his latest interview on the radio during the drive to work.
Hue openly admitted his work ethic was drastically different before dorsey.
He wasn't accustomed to the 24/7 don't leave a leaf unturned culture.
Not something I'd want to admit publicly.
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Caught his latest interview on the radio during the drive to work.
Hue openly admitted his work ethic was drastically different before dorsey.
He wasn't accustomed to the 24/7 don't leave a leaf unturned culture.
Not something I'd want to admit publicly. Well, he is a well known procrastinator... Just take a look at how much time he is taking to make such a simple think like taking a swim in the lake... Also he's well known for blaming others for their his shortcomings, and having an excuse for anything bad he makes... Very well known for saying that almost anything its not his job to be doing...
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While some claim he's the HC, top Browns talent evaluator and responsible for every QB that's been drafted. Seems it goes from one extreme to the other. lmao
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck?
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Think of it this way, if we win three games this year under Hue, that will be a 250% increase over his average to date.
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck? That makes too much sense and doesn't fit their narrative.
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Hue and Dorsey seem to be fitting together rather well. Something we never had here in the past. Dorsey is the Leader and the rest have their roles. HC and on down.
I don't see anyone being confused or disgruntled about Hue Jackson waiting for proper weather to take his swim in Lake Erie.
I know you and others wish to PUNISH him actually most of you wish to run him out of town on the rail Tarred and Feathered. This was a gentleman's bet Hue has with the Fans of the Browns. Never was it stipulated he was to cut a hole into the ice and take a dip. At his age you have to watch out for Heart attacks with an extreme cold bath. Nothing wrong with his bet and coming through with it when the wether gets warm. I would suspect on a hot summer's day between training camp. Some you guys are unreasonable.
Actually Sashi did some really good things but Football Leader he was not. Dorsey is clearly HMIC (head man in Charge) which is needed. He's a good leader so far. He doesn't seem to micro manage but instead delegates wisely.
Hue is the HC and he has his parameters spelled out for him.
No lame duck...if you all don't think 1-31 is the time to fire a guy then something must be wrong in your thinking. That was the time if we had an inkling to do so. Do I think if we end up picking in the top 5 of the draft next year that Hue will be gone. MOST CERTAINLY! 99% sure. But I'm also pretty sure we will have a pretty descent record and turn around from last season to this.
Sure do looks that way. Excellent OC and DC young players one season advanced in their progress. Influential and talented veterans at key positions. Gordon full time for the FIRST TIME??? Still have the draft.
The only negative I see is the retiring of Joe Thomas. I will give an opinion on Shon Coleman after seeing him play the LT position.
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Hue and Dorsey seem to be fitting together rather well. Something we never had here in the past. Dorsey is the Leader and the rest have their roles. HC and on down.
I don't see anyone being confused or disgruntled about Hue Jackson waiting for proper weather to take his swim in Lake Erie.
I know you and others wish to PUNISH him actually most of you wish to run him out of town on the rail Tarred and Feathered. This was a gentleman's bet Hue has with the Fans of the Browns. Never was it stipulated he was to cut a hole into the ice and take a dip. At his age you have to watch out for Heart attacks with an extreme cold bath. Nothing wrong with his bet and coming through with it when the wether gets warm. I would suspect on a hot summer's day between training camp. Some you guys are unreasonable.
Actually Sashi did some really good things but Football Leader he was not. Dorsey is clearly HMIC (head man in Charge) which is needed. He's a good leader so far. He doesn't seem to micro manage but instead delegates wisely.
Hue is the HC and he has his parameters spelled out for him.
No lame duck...if you all don't think 1-31 is the time to fire a guy then something must be wrong in your thinking. That was the time if we had an inkling to do so. Do I think if we end up picking in the top 5 of the draft next year that Hue will be gone. MOST CERTAINLY! 99% sure. But I'm also pretty sure we will have a pretty descent record and turn around from last season to this.
Sure do looks that way. Excellent OC and DC young players one season advanced in their progress. Influential and talented veterans at key positions. Gordon full time for the FIRST TIME??? Still have the draft.
The only negative I see is the retiring of Joe Thomas. I will give an opinion on Shon Coleman after seeing him play the LT position.
i cant see hue going anywhere for at least 2 years.. no way would we bring in our franchise QB just to change hC after one year.
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck? That makes too much sense and doesn't fit their narrative.
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck? That makes too much sense and doesn't fit their narrative. so you think that haley will be HC and OC in 2 years? didnt we just go through this?
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Why do you think Haley came here? He had other offers to be an OC. It won't be that long and he will bring in a like minded OC ... JMHO
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Why do you think Haley came here? He had other offers to be an OC. It won't be that long and he will bring in a like minded OC ... JMHO haley came here to learn from hue... isnt it obvious...
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Why do you think Haley came here? He had other offers to be an OC. It won't be that long and he will bring in a like minded OC ... JMHO haley came here to learn from hue... isnt it obvious... 
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck? That makes too much sense and doesn't fit their narrative. If thats the plan ... i will have less respect for Dorsey and Haley than I do for Hue ... i have zero problems with Hue being our HC .. but i’m with Peen in that i dont think hes a good guy .. i think hes out for Hue and Hue alone .. he threw everyone under the bus from the bye week on ... the FO, the Players ... he made an ass of himself IMO .... But if Dorsey/Haley even discussed the possibility of Haley taking over for Hue that’d be DISGUISTING and just a horrible way to do business .. I’d be sickened by that ...
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Haley is a better OC and was a better HC ... and you don't think these things happen, please, Dorsey didn't hire Hue ...
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Haley is a better OC and was a better HC ... and you don't think these things happen, please, Dorsey didn't hire Hue ... Huh ... thats shocking coming from u .. Sorry sir ... If thats the plan .. whats the sense of keeping Hue at all ... its WRONG if they’ve all ready discussed the transition or if that’s EVEN POSSIBLE ... It seems like a CHICKEN CRAP way to do business ... I agree ... things happen ... and if it happens thats one thing ... for it to have all ready been discussed and to be the plan .. thats not things happening, thats putting a plan in motion ... Thats UNDERHANDED IMO ... We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one ....
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I agree it's underhanded and could be wrong about my thoughts but it's the reality of the world we live in and I hope I am wrong but these things go on far to often ...
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I love the fact that Hue did not get fired.
Hue Jackson will end up being a huge success story in the NFL and it will unfold right here in Cleveland. From 0-16, 1-31 to playoffs and a Superbowl championship. It will end up being legendary.
I do not hold Hue responsible for the 1-31 or the 0-16. This team was less talented than the 1999 and 2000 teams. What talent they did have was extreme young. Very few vets to guide the youth on the field and no depth behind the youth. I think people will be surprised at how the team performs this year with vets on the team and some depth.
Hue will be looked at much differently after this next season.
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I agree it's underhanded and could be wrong about my thoughts but it's the reality of the world we live in and I hope I am wrong but these things go on far to often ... i dont believe dorsey had anything to do with hire haley... that was all hue...
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They did strip him of any talent, and I would love for this to happen ... 
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Hue is the biggest lame duck HC I have ever seen ... JMHO Why? The team had the perfect opportunity for a change when they fired Sashi, and brought in Dorsey. That's when they should have made a change, if that's what they had/have in mind. What do they gain by having Hue stick around as a lame duck? That makes too much sense and doesn't fit their narrative. What narrative is it to want to see the Browns win. The schedule is out and I'm not looking forward to see the Hue Jackson coached Browns go 0-16 again, but I don't have any reason to think otherwise.
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I love the fact that Hue did not get fired.
Hue Jackson will end up being a huge success story in the NFL and it will unfold right here in Cleveland. From 0-16, 1-31 to playoffs and a Superbowl championship. It will end up being legendary.
I do not hold Hue responsible for the 1-31 or the 0-16. This team was less talented than the 1999 and 2000 teams. What talent they did have was extreme young. Very few vets to guide the youth on the field and no depth behind the youth. I think people will be surprised at how the team performs this year with vets on the team and some depth.
Hue will be looked at much differently after this next season. I think the talent last year and this year will be very similar, I think they were more talented than the 1999-2000 season. Hue will add this seasons record to his previous seasons.
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They already have more talent, and those young guys all got great experience last year this should be a much better year ...
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I love the fact that Hue did not get fired.
Hue Jackson will end up being a huge success story in the NFL and it will unfold right here in Cleveland. From 0-16, 1-31 to playoffs and a Superbowl championship. It will end up being legendary.
I do not hold Hue responsible for the 1-31 or the 0-16. This team was less talented than the 1999 and 2000 teams. What talent they did have was extreme young. Very few vets to guide the youth on the field and no depth behind the youth. I think people will be surprised at how the team performs this year with vets on the team and some depth.
Hue will be looked at much differently after this next season. I think the talent last year and this year will be very similar, I think they were more talented than the 1999-2000 season. Hue will add this seasons record to his previous seasons. There has already been a significant increase in the teams depth vs last season. Jarvis Landry and players that the teams add from having 5 picks in the first 2 rounds will greatly improve the teams overall talent. This years team will be much improved.
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They did strip him of any talent, and I would love for this to happen ... ever wonder how a college team would do in the pro football? well 1 win 31 loss lol
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I agree it's underhanded and could be wrong about my thoughts but it's the reality of the world we live in and I hope I am wrong but these things go on far to often ... i dont believe dorsey had anything to do with hire haley... that was all hue... 
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I agree it's underhanded and could be wrong about my thoughts but it's the reality of the world we live in and I hope I am wrong but these things go on far to often ... i dont believe dorsey had anything to do with hire haley... that was all hue... how about this... i dont think hue got to bring in his own coaching staff when he was hired.. it was all sashi and the company he hired...
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Hue could win the Superbowl and I'd think him a schmuck.
I can't stand to even look at the guy or hear him speak. I have never disliked a Browns head coach as much as I dislike him.
He's a bad person.
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The schedule is tough out of the gate ... that could be a problem for Hue ...
We can all speculate on a lot of this crap ... i believe that Hue will have zero leash on him and he will be allowed to be the HC of his football team ... at least thats the way it should be .. any other way is STUPID and shows a lack of class ....
We can speculate on that all day long .... we can also speculate all day long on how much rope he has ... FACT IS ... NONE OF US HAVE ANY CLUE ... u can make a good argument for a real short leash (say a 1 - 3 start) or a short leash (say a 2 - 5 start) or does he have til the bye or does he have the whole season .... FACT IS ... NONE OF US HAVE A CLUE ...
If it is a real short leash ... Pitt then NO on the road and then a thursday nighter coming off a road game in a different time zone is not a good start for Hue ...
Personally I hope he gets the whole year ... he has a different position than he did last year .. hes a true HC ... This will be a much better football team than last years and last years was a QB away from 4 - 6 wins ... he also has some GREAT ASSISTANTS at all levels ....
I hope he gets the entire year ... HES SET UP TO SUCEED THIS YEAR ... IMO he deserves a year with this new set up ...
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I think we'll know a lot by the bye week....it's late this year. Hopefully he'll have wins under his belt and we won't have to discuss this anymore. But if he's 1-8 or 0-9 at that time it would be a good opportunity to transition in a new coach.
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I think Hue needs a minimum of 6 wins in 2018 to survive. If it was my call, it would be 8 wins. Looking at the schedule, sitting here in April before the draft, I don't see more than 7 wins being possible, and that's only with a very optimistic crystal ball.
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I agree totally. Hue doesn't need to be strapped down by the FO.
If that is the plan, they should have just canned him a few months ago. If this is giving him a chance, then it needs to be a fair chance.
I may not like him, but I don't want things to be unfair or stacked.
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I think Hue needs a minimum of 6 wins in 2018 to survive. If it was my call, it would be 8 wins. Looking at the schedule, sitting here in April before the draft, I don't see more than 7 wins being possible, and that's only with a very optimistic crystal ball. I look at it more about losses. He can't have a double digit loss season, so we need to win 7 for the Gipper
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This is the NFL and there are no easy games. Predicting wins when we don't know who we are drafting or who will be on our final roster is impossible. I am always possitive so I expect the playoffs every year. I am hoping Hue can figure this head coaching thing out before it is too late for him. He has to or he will be gone. Hue talks too much for a 1-31 coach. Hue needs to rely more on actions and less on words.
I do think adding Taylor, Landry and Hyde will help the offense along with hopefully better play calling.
Defensively our secondary should be improved and if we can add Chubb to our defense we should be better overall.
If we can avoid injuries, who knows how many we can win.
I get tired of all the doom and gloom fans who have no optimism. Lets take it one game at a time starting with the Steelers and get a win first game. That would be huge and momentum could carry us to a surprising season.
I just want a winner. We need players who can be part of the solution not part of the problem.
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If Hue is a contributor on the sidelines, There is a good possibility we could win at least 10 games. Let Todd and Greg run the show. If Hue is the decision maker, look to win maybe 4 games and hopefully he is gone.
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I tend to agree, but he is the head coach. You have to let him cook his own goose. You can't send him in to it a dead man walking.
Trust me, I don't like him even a ounce and never will, but we have to do it the right way.
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