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I don’t think he is a bad offensive coordinator. I think he is a self-serving snake that would be poisonous to any team’s culture.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I don’t think he is a bad offensive coordinator. I think he is a self-serving snake that would be poisonous to any team’s culture.
Not sure him in an OC role is quite that bad, but even if it were, Pitt is one of the few places that can keep that under control. If anything, Hue would be using this to rebuild his resume for a couple years before he launches a new HC campaign.


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I don’t think he is a bad offensive coordinator. I think he is a self-serving snake that would be poisonous to any team’s culture.



That could be. I don't think it was that way when he was a coordinator, but it could now that he has been a head coach and is now back to interviewing for coordinator positions.

No doubt that as a head coach here he was the drop of sewage that ruined the cask of wine.

Note to some, that is just an expression.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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....Pitt is one of the few places that can keep that under control.


Pitt can't keep their own players under control. JuJu and Claypool yapping away. LeVeon Bell(e) and Antoino Brown had huge issues. Roethisberger run-ins with the law/rape/sexual assault charges. Todd Haley drunk and in a alleged bar fight. Jeff Reed was drunk in public and had disorderly conduct filed.

The only reason the Steelers appear to have everything under control is because they've managed to win.

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I agree. A lot of Browns fans on social media are praising the possibility of him being hired in Pittsburgh, while they forget that his offenses in Cincinnati torched us a few times (albeit with our team being much worse talent-wise).


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Lions are about to hire Chong-Li as defensive coordinator...


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I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the Vikings offensive coaches end up on our staff. Specifically I wouldn't be surprised if Klint Kubiak ends up on our staff.

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At least we'll know who to hand all those interceptions to.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I don’t think he is a bad offensive coordinator. I think he is a self-serving snake that would be poisonous to any team’s culture.


pssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss..........You mean a snake like you? psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.....

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Love that video. Liked Campbell when we were interviewing coaches a while back.


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I love it too, but I'm also getting some Freddie vibes.


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This press conference wreaks of a guy that gets canned after two years.

Fans love hearing it. Players rolling their eyes.

Andrew Hawkins and Joe Thomas had a good take on "we're going to get tough" type coach vs guys like Kyle Shanahan, Stefanski, etc..

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This press conference wreaks of a guy that gets canned after two years.

Fans love hearing it. Players rolling their eyes.

Andrew Hawkins and Joe Thomas had a good take on "we're going to get tough" type coach vs guys like Kyle Shanahan, Stefanski, etc..



I agree. It was very Rex Ryan-y. The only problem is that Rex Ryan was also a very good defensive coach so he was able to sustain his act longer because he actually did good stuff.

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This press conference wreaks of a guy that gets canned after two years.

Fans love hearing it. Players rolling their eyes.

Andrew Hawkins and Joe Thomas had a good take on "we're going to get tough" type coach vs guys like Kyle Shanahan, Stefanski, etc..



My thoughts exactly. I'm not saying he will fail, but I feel like I've seen this song and dance before in the NFL.

It just doesn't sound like he is a leader, or smart for that matter. More like a bully without a well thought out plan to address questions.


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He sounds like someone that is completely in over their head and doesn't know the first thing about running a team.

Who is that guy, and how/why did he get a job there? Isn't Matt Millen gone? That *should* have fixed the silly decisions.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
He sounds like someone that is completely in over their head and doesn't know the first thing about running a team.


He sounds like Coach Calhoun from Rydell High in the movie Grease!

(There's really no swearing in the video regardless of title)

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He sounds like someone that is completely in over their head and doesn't know the first thing about running a team.


He sounds like Coach Calhoun from Rydell High in the movie Grease!

(There's really no swearing in the video regardless of title)


Hahaha, I was trying to remember what movie that was. Thank you.
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I don’t think he is a bad offensive coordinator. I think he is a self-serving snake that would be poisonous to any team’s culture.
Not sure him in an OC role is quite that bad, but even if it were, Pitt is one of the few places that can keep that under control. If anything, Hue would be using this to rebuild his resume for a couple years before he launches a new HC campaign.


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Who was that guy? Greg Williams...lol laugh

Rex Ryan is and was always a PUTZ...he took a team that Mangini built and was in the AFC Conference Championship game. Then as the team took on HIS MOLD...they slowly went from SB contender to PUTZ led team. What he did for his ego. Play Sanchez in the 4th quarter of the last PRESEASON game to beat the Giants but ended up Ruining Sanchez's career with a season ending injury that he never recovered from. He's a PUTZ!!! All talk

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You think a quarter of a preseason game is what ruined Sanchez's career.


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Good enough to bring them to the Championship game. Yep that injury did. He was a promising QB and was getting better till that game happened. It wasn't about the Quarter of a preseason game it was THE INJURY at a time that NOT ONE NFL COACH would do to their starting QB. This was not intended to be a debate on the play of Sanchez but the EGO decision made by a "PUTZ" of a HC.


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Fair enough, I just didn't think Sanchez was all that promising of a QB. What got them to the champ game was their unstoppable running game and suffocating D.


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While the Eagles new HC might not project a good example of what he trying to explain about the need for smart players...HE IS RIGHT..

Smart football players are preferred as playbooks and schemes become more complicated.

The Browns have their own warts with examples of the defenses LBs and DBs appeared to be confused at times. This year being a Covid year, a lack of practice reps had to be challenge for our new coaches.


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It sounds more like he wants to make things morether easier for dumb players so they can get gooder at they"re systum.


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I am SO glad our coaching staff is staying intact going into the new season. Stability is a valuable commodity. I know Woods gets a lot of grief on the board, but he'll get a lot of injured people back this year, plus draft and whatever free agent additions there are. I'm kinda surprised Callahan didn't get some calls. Maybe he did and I just don't know.

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he was really, really nervous lol. I’m sure I would be too. Not a great first impression though haha


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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When is the last time we returned our entire coaching staff? Freddie got fired after one year, Hue fired the entire defensive staff, then the entire offensive staff, Pettine lost Shanahan after one year, Chud was one and done, Shurmur? Was it Shurmur? I can’t remember who was on his staff and if they got fired or not?

*Quick Google Search*

It was Pat Shurmur. So it’s been 9 years since we returned our entire coaching staff.

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he was really, really nervous lol. I’m sure I would be too. Not a great first impression though haha


Would you rather have this or Adam Gase’s crazy eyes? I’m taking the crazy eyes.

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he was really, really nervous lol. I’m sure I would be too. Not a great first impression though haha


Would you rather have this or Adam Gase’s crazy eyes? I’m taking the crazy eyes.
haha yeah same here. Like the old quote says ... it’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re an idiot than open your mouth and confirm it.


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I know a few brilliant people that aren't really adept at speaking to people outside of their circles or in front of a lot of people, trying to explain issues with their specialty to others in the organization during formal meetings and whatnot.

Now if this is how he presents in front of the team, then they have problems. But we can't assume this is the case. If we took Belichik's pressers as an indication of how he presented himself to his team, I don't think we would come to the conclusion that he's one of the greatest "leaders of men" of all time. That guy was always horribly uncomfortable in front of a camera.

Public speaking is stressful and difficult. I've had to give presentations and do staff education....it was frightening and difficult at first, then it became easier to the point where I enjoy doing it. It doesn't for some people, they just can't get over that anxiety barrier. It's easy for a keyboard warrior to make fun of someone who's not good at it.


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I know a few brilliant people that aren't really adept at speaking to people outside of their circles or in front of a lot of people, trying to explain issues with their specialty to others in the organization during formal meetings and whatnot.


jfan...I would be one of those, minus the 'brillant' qualifier..lol. I hate to speak before a group but when I had to, the more I did the better I was at it. But, I still would rather not prefer to speak publicly.

Back to the subject of smarter football players who are able to understand the X and O concepts and develop football smarts...that type of player can be a welcomes advantage to most coaches.

IMO, it appears that Stefanski's offense relies on the players ability to execute their assignments. The fact that the offensive line was able to adjust, plugging in several backup linemen and still be able to produce might indicate that those coaches have the ability to be excellent teachers of their group of players.

I do enjoy smart football and look forward to the upcoming season.


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I know a few brilliant people that aren't really adept at speaking to people outside of their circles or in front of a lot of people, trying to explain issues with their specialty to others in the organization during formal meetings and whatnot.

Now if this is how he presents in front of the team, then they have problems. But we can't assume this is the case. If we took Belichik's pressers as an indication of how he presented himself to his team, I don't think we would come to the conclusion that he's one of the greatest "leaders of men" of all time. That guy was always horribly uncomfortable in front of a camera.

Public speaking is stressful and difficult. I've had to give presentations and do staff education....it was frightening and difficult at first, then it became easier to the point where I enjoy doing it. It doesn't for some people, they just can't get over that anxiety barrier. It's easy for a keyboard warrior to make fun of someone who's not good at it.


It's easy/lazy to poke fun at how he speaks, but I'd be more worried about what he's saying. He says he wants a smart team but he has to simplify things way down for them because they're dummies. Also, simple systems only work if you have a bunch of talent.


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I hope it was just nerves and that he's not in over his head.


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The Green Bay Packers will not renew defensive coordinator Mike Pettine's contract, the team announced Friday. The news comes less than a week after Green Bay's 31-26 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFC Championship Game. The loss marked the Packers' second consecutive NFC title game loss.

Pettine, 54, had served as the Packers' defensive coordinator since the 2018 season. Over that span, the Packers finished 22nd, ninth, and 13th in the NFL in scoring defense, respectively. In 2020, Green Bay's defense finished seventh in the NFL in passing, 13th in rushing, tied for eighth in sacks, tied for 26th in turnovers forced, 10th in third down efficiency and eighth in red zone efficiency. Pro Bowl linebacker Za'Darius Smith had 7.5 more sacks than the next closest Packer, Rashan Gary. The Packers' other Pro Bowler on the defensive side was cornerback Jaire Alexander, who broke up a team-high 13 passes.

Green Bay's defense had its struggles against the Buccaneers. While they held Tampa Bay to 19 first downs and 2-of-8 on third down, the Packers could not over Tom Brady's three touchdown passes in the game's first 31 minutes. Green Bay's defense also allowed a 20-yard touchdown run by Leonard Fournette, as the Buccaneers stormed out to a 28-10 lead.

With their deficit cut to five points, the Packers' defensed needed to get a stop with 2:05 remaining. But two costly penalties enabled the Buccaneers to keep the ball for the remainder of the game.


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I am not sticking up for Pettine here, but that is what happens when teams lose championships after a crappy decision by the coach to punt the ball.

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Yeah, but it was the wrong guy. They had an overall good D, and picked off Brady 3 times... resulting in a whopping 3 points (I think that's right).

I don't think defense was the problem.


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Brady picked off 3 times because of Brady not their D (2 he threw up for grabs and 1 tipped off Evans hands).

Pettine sucks, always has and always will - just another awful head coach in the glorious Brown's past.

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