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In the end I suspect we will see gabriel play a lot this year.

Just a general comment...It is pretty apparent we will be drafting a QB in the next draft. Watson deserves what he gets, but he didn't deserve to get booed when he came in for the 3rd qtr. That was pre-established. Sanders fans are going to boo anybody who replaces their guy. When we draft this new guy, Shedufus can't even be on the team. We need to do everything we can to set things up as best as possible for whoever we draft.

I hope Sanders plays well enough we can trade him for some 12 year vet to be brought in to mentor the new guy. Shedufus can't be anywhere in the picture.


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I've seen you post this a couple of times now. It's pretty disrespectful - but that's fine. But knowing you are a Baker fan, it's worth noting that Gabriel is a shade over 5'11, in bare feet measured at the combine. Baker is not quite 6'1 ...
5’9” or 5’11”. Short or too short — same sh*t, and it doesn’t change anything.

I have absolutely nothing against Dillon Gabriel. He seems like a nice young man from Hawaii with the right attitude. There’s nothing to dislike about him.

It’s not his fault that incompetent leadership put him in an impossible position.

He simply doesn’t have the physical attributes, the size, or the talent to be a starting NFL quarterback. There’s nothing wrong with that — only a very small percentage of players ever make it as NFL starters. With a bit of luck, he can carve out a career as a No. 2 or No. 3 quarterback and make a few million dollars before he retires.

I wish him all the best, but if he’s going to succeed, I think he needs to find a more stable organization with less drama.

As for being called a Baker fan, I take that as a compliment. I love his attitude, his positive mindset, and his willingness to do whatever it takes to win.

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Begin with his play on the field.

His play has been horrible. He then says "it has nothing to do with performance it's personal."

It has a lot to do with performance. He came here with a dark cloud over him. In order to win the crowd he needed to play equal to his paycheck. He did not.

His lack of understanding of what is expected when you are paid to perform is astounding.

His play on the field demonstrates a guy who is shell shocked. He lacks full awareness and it leads to his mistakes.

He expects to be embraced because he works out and does community service. Something he was told to do.

Does he actually believe he should start after going public with his emotions about his treatment from the fans?

When asked he should have said "I need to play well and win games fans want to win."

No he acts like he has been abused. How ironic.

Haslam normally would know the head coach makes the decisions on who plays. In this case he will let his feelings be known.

I don't see how Watson stays on the team.

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Begin with his play on the field.

His play has been horrible. He then says "it has nothing to do with performance it's personal."

It has a lot to do with performance. He came here with a dark cloud over him. In order to win the crowd he needed to play equal to his paycheck. He did not.

His lack of understanding of what is expected when you are paid to perform is astounding.

His play on the field demonstrates a guy who is shell shocked. He lacks full awareness and it leads to his mistakes.

He expects to be embraced because he works out and does community service. Something he was told to do.

Does he actually believe he should start after going public with his emotions about his treatment from the fans?

When asked he should have said "I need to play well and win games fans want to win."

No he acts like he has been abused. How ironic.

Haslam normally would know the head coach makes the decisions on who plays. In this case he will let his feelings be known.

I don't see how Watson stays on the team.

Perfectly said! The lack of self awareness is astounding.

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Originally Posted by bonefish


No he acts like he has been abused.


I don't see how Watson stays on the team.

You hit the nail on the heard here - the sexual predator acts like a victim. It's galling.

And he stays with the team because of the contract he has and the salary cap. Well done Berry - genius. Well done Haslam (yet again) - genius.


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This does not help his cause.




I didn't think I could dislike him more - but after this, man it just adds salt into the wound.

I mean at the base level it sounds like he has checked out. And I don't blame the media - he stepped right thru that door and opened it up for everyone by himself. Firstly by his own actions and secondly in this interview with his what he said.

Ugh.

I hate the deal that brought him to Cleveland even more now. crazy


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His press conference is obviously viral by now.

Someone needs to take charge. The Browns as an organization need to set up a meeting with DW and his agent.

Some type of arrangement needs to be worked out that will resolve this as best as can be done.

Both parties need to be flexible and work towards what is best for all.

DW himself needs to acknowledge this.

I cannot see him remaining with the team.

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Well, they can't have a powwow and reinvent how the salary cap works, so I'm not sure what kind of resolution you're looking for. You think Watson's going to leave money on the table for the franchise he's grown to hate? Not likely.


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Neither one is great but Sanders is better. It's time for Watson and the Browns to go their separate ways.

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Neither one is great but Sanders is better. It's time for Watson and the Browns to go their separate ways.

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So, obviously this entitled brat has been feeling this way for a while. What exactly did he think we should be cheering for? I can recall one above average game that he showed "glimpses" of his former self. As someone on X said "you can be an $%^hole or you can be bad... you can't be both."

What a joke.

I also love how he low-key says nobody has the balls to say anything to him in public. 🤣

I don't know how this will shake out. Monken is pretty good at avoiding the media b.s. with one-line football talk, maybe that will continue?

I do know that if he does start, he will have a two-game road audition to look otherworldly; or come "home" to a chorus of boos like he's never heard before.


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He will get his money.

The cap will not change.

What could be done is somehow allow him to leave the team physically.

Have his agents look for a team that may have some interest. That may be a problem.

If there is none. Then maybe he could be paid and be placed on something like a pup list and apply a type of depression.

I am reaching but DW cannot remain with the team after the conference.

Haslam and Berry are going to be involved.

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