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Yeah that was pretty dumb. I still think it's good to be loyal to a player like Tuck for all the trench work he's put in for us.
I forget did we pay this guy millions? Isn't he suppose to be a professional?
This is a business...don't cry to me when I say I have absolutely no faith in Tucker...and even if he did come back he is NOT what he was 2 years ago
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There's no way we could afford that, but a nice thought. 
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i would do something in my pants if we got dielman also 
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i would do something in my pants if we got dielman also
I wouldn't that would mean we have upwards around 200 mil invested in our o-line...not thanks but I will wait for a round 2 guard
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Just got back from gettingsomething to eat and low and behold we signed Steinbach. This is great news!
Go out and get something else so we can get Clements, too!
If I knew it would work I would weigh 400lbs 
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I only break out the crazy frog brothers for the big ones. This was the big one we needed to get the ball rolling. And by saying this I mean no disrespect to the esteemed "peanut butter and jelly time"
LETS GO Phil finish it. Go get us Joe Thomas
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Hey GM what injury did he have? Did his play tamper off? What was his reasoning for not playing...?
It was not due to him being crazy  It was due to a problem that many, many people live with. When or IF Tuck and his family deciede to make it public then everybody will know. But I will not be spewing his personal info all over the net.
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as much as i would like thomas in the draft, I'm starting to smell Peterson after the top OL signing.
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Hey GM what injury did he have? Did his play tamper off? What was his reasoning for not playing...?
It was not due to him being crazy It was due to a problem that many, many people live with. When or IF Tuck and his family deciede to make it public then everybody will know. But I will not be spewing his personal info all over the net.
I never said you should but honestly he is what 40 something...He lost 3 steps last year when he couldn't afford to lose 1/2 of one...
Im sorry I dont expect Tucker to be part of the picture....Bentley I have hopes for 08 but Tucker I expect him to be cut after this year
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This is a business...don't cry to me when I say I have absolutely no faith in Tucker...and even if he did come back he is NOT what he was 2 years ago
Just exactly how would you know that he is not what he was 2 years ago? He didn't play most of last year. And besides, Charlie has a bad habit of rolling to the right and Tuck did a good job on that while he played. When he wasn't in, that all went down hill in a hurry. Tuck is good right where he is.
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I never said you should but honestly he is what 40 something...
He's 31. Will be 32 next season. A little different.
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Just got back from gettingsomething to eat and low and behold we signed Steinbach. This is great news!
Go out and get something else so we can get Clements, too!
If I knew it would work I would weigh 400lbs
Can you play DT?
Damn skippy, If I weighed 400lbs I would have to do anything besides stand there. And try not to keel over.
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Tuck still has some gas left in his tank.It would be fantastic to get a bona-fide LT in here,move Shaff to Rt and allow Tuck to finish out his days at RG.
My biggest fear now is a boating accident involving Stien.Of coarse he now has enough money to hire a captain.
Ahoy matey.
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This is a business...don't cry to me when I say I have absolutely no faith in Tucker...and even if he did come back he is NOT what he was 2 years ago
Just exactly how would you know that he is not what he was 2 years ago? He didn't play most of last year. And besides, Charlie has a bad habit of rolling to the right and Tuck did a good job on that while he played. When he wasn't in, that all went down hill in a hurry. Tuck is good right where he is.
Actually Sparky he played 9 games...thats more than half...here is proof:
yan Tucker
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Games Played/Started:
1997 (7/0); 1998 (4/0); 1999 (16/0); 2000 (16/16); 2001 (16/15); 2002 (14/14); 2003 (16/16); 2004 (7/7); 2005 (16/16); 2006 (9/9)
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/player.php?id=164
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Theres no way we sing Dielman too. That may be going overboard lets do whatever we have to and get Clements signed. We can draft another guard in the 3rd round.
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Tucker is 31 not 40 (there go those butt cheeks again) and he was still our best O-lineman last year, and he sure as hell had not lost three steps
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Just clicking in...
YES!!!
I think we might even pencil him in at LT....Shaffer goes to RT....Tucker if back will vie for the RG position...we need more stability at RT ergo Shaffer Inked there.
If Thomas is available and becomes a Brown then Steinbach moves to LG.
We will go to camp as per:
Thomas...Steinbach....Fraley....Tucker...Shaffer
Now that at least will be a very, very respectable OL Andruzzi as a sub along with Butler and Sowells.
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Tucker is 31 not 40 (there go those butt cheeks again) and he was still our best O-lineman last year, and he sure as hell had not lost three steps
Being the best lineman last year doesn't mean squat on this team...
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Know your facts before you post....
You say Tucker is 40 years old, then you post that
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Who cares.
For years people have been saying" Let's pay for quality linemen for once and quit going after retreads or 2nd tier linemen".
We finally are trying to do that and you now have to find fault with it.
Give me a break!
Some people just bitch to bitch.
i'm with you roadDawg, This is a good start! why talk about o-line if we are willing to put our money where out mouth is.
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My point was an exaggeration his point wasn't...there is a difference
Once lineman go over 30 they lose steps especially ones with bad knees and mental problems ( what would you like me to call it GM)
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I hope Tuck makes it back to starting form.... but if we do draft JT we will have some depth at O-line  which means we will line it up how we can get our best 5 on the field period.
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It's about Gosh Damn time we get a QUALITY Guard here...
I wouldn't put it past Savage...If Dielman comes here...And signs...Clements is apparently REAL CLOSE with Frisco...Crazy $$$...Like 23M up front...I had 20 MAX in my head...Let em' go...Don't war it with Frisco Savage...
Go get Hood...He's coming tomorrow...And these guys...
Coleman, Kenyon DE UCLA
Edwards, Ron DT Texas A&M
Peek, Antwan DE Cincinnati
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Dockery : 7 years, 49 mil Wow, we got Steinbach for the same money Dockery got... Nice job, Phil!
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Damn good news....thanks for the link. 
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Many O-lineman still play well into their mid 30's. Has Tuck lost A step. Maybe but he was still playing very well last season. As far as his problems, call them what you want, but crazy does not describe it.
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No kidding....you knew that the Hutchinson deal wasnt an anomally. Steinbach can play any position on the line in a pinch.
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My biggest fear now is a boating accident involving Stien.Of coarse he now has enough money to hire a captain.
Ahoy matey.
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Many O-lineman still play well into their mid 30's. Has Tuck lost A step. Maybe but he was still playing very well last season. As far as his problems, call them what you want, but crazy does not describe it.
I would rather see Tucker be a depth player nothing more...I dont like having a player on a team that could bolt at anytime....remember the mess that Bob Hallen caused...?
Do you really want to go through that again.....?
Unlike I am not going to depend on a player who may never play again...Same for Bents..to me so far this is what we have:
Fraley
Butler
Steinbach
Shaffer
and a couple backups....Sorry I am not going to count on Bents or Tucker coming back....If he misses more than 5 games due to mental problems again this year he should be cut...
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Just clicking,, I find it amazing that we just got news that we have all been waiting for,.. We have a legit OG in his prime and some of you guys are arguing about if Tuck if 31 or 40 years old.. Some are talking about moving Stienbach to LT,,, why.. why would you do that,., he's a proven LG,,, Leave it alone and draft thomas,, Tucker,,while I like the guy, has a problem,, we don't know how deep it goes,, we don't evenknow what the heck it is,,, I hope he's ok and I hope he can play again,,, but I ain't counting on it., Right now,, we have this: LT: shaffer LG: Stienbach C: Fraley RG: Sowells or maybe Andruzzi RT: Nobody But to heck with all that,,, we got us a REAL GUARD.... Yeee Hawww
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Cheese & Rice...
Clements is lookin' at 8 yrs and 80 Million...
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Here is the link we all have been waiting for: CLEVELAND (AP) -- The Cleveland Browns have agreed to contract terms with free agent offensive lineman Eric Steinbach on a seven-year deal, a league source told The Associated Press on Friday. Financial terms were not immediately available. The versatile Steinbach, who played the past four seasons for the Cincinnati Bengals, will sign the contract once he passes a physical, said the source who asked to remain anonymous because the signing hasn't been finalized. As long as there are no hangups, this will be the second straight year the Browns have addressed their offensive line by signing the top free agent available. Last March, the club gave a six-year, $36 million contract to Pro Bowl center LeCharles Bentley, who suffered a career-threatening knee injury early in training camp. The Browns are counting on better luck with Steinbach, a 6-foot-6, 290-pounder who can play guard or tackle. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/03/02/steinbach.browns.ap/index.html
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Maybe so Loki but if healthy he is a mauler.
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I would rather see Tucker be a depth player nothing more
As would every Browns fan IF we can bring in somebody better.
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Sorry I am not going to count on Bents or Tucker coming back....If he misses more than 5 games due to mental problems again this year he should be cut...
IF he would miss 5 games again, THEN I would agree with you. Just remember he missed zero games with his problem before last season.
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I guess we agree on something then GM...but I am pessimistic person when it comes to injuries and the browns..
I hope he comes back but I don't think he will. Therefore we need to act as if he isn't on the team
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Some are talking about moving Stienbach to LT,,, why.. why would you do that,., he's a proven LG,,, Leave it alone and draft thomas,,
Yeee Hawww
Hell yeah Daman.....lets load it up Phil. Draft the Big man and lets start running the ball Old School Cleveland Browns style
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Time will tell bro
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I understand your concerns about Tucker... I have bi polar and I am disabled because of it. I don't know Tuck's history, but I do know a lot of times when someone is first diagnosed they suffer more from the side effects of meds than the actual illness. If that is indeed the case he may have no long term effects.
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I get home and this is the first thing I see, hell yeah!!!!!!!!!
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