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We need a comment from John Football before I believe anything.

I disagree completely. I think we spent 3 years trying to make OBJ a #1 WR, when he's not. Now he is playing with a legit #1 WR on the other side to take the pressure off...

And I'll say this again... Stafford played 9 games this year without OBJ and 7 games with him. Yes, OBJ caught 4 TDs in LA when he didn't catch any here and a lot of people felt the need to comment on that... good for him.

But, Staffords...
-Completion % fell by 2%
-Yards per game went down by 40 yards
-TD passes went down by about .5 TD per game
-INTs went up .6 per game
-Points per game dropped 4 points
-Record remained about the same

OBJ is getting some more of the stats from whoever he replaced in the line up, ok, but there is no evidence that says he's actually making the Rams any better.

While OBJ himself.. is averaging 1.3 more receptions and 9 more yards per game.. but he has scored some TDs.. so there you go.

she is known for this and a lot of other things.

she barely even writes her own articles.

It's the role played at cleveland.com/The Plain Dealer.

Roger Brown begot Tony Grossi who begot Mary Kay.
Same job. Same "reporting".

cleveland.com is garbage, and as such, so are the reports from the people they employ.

LOL. That is the best post I have seen here in a while. Thanks for the laugh, cfrs!

Good to see that Brandon Weeden's wife is still hot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/06/report-baker-mayfield-may-ask-to-be-traded/

Here is what Baker is pissed off about. That cow put a lot of words in his mouth. And made a lot of assumptions and inflammatory statements.

I really wish they could sue for these bs articles. There’s gotta be some way to hold people accountable for what they put out

You're not the one who should be scared.

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This is just awesome!!!

It’s not over until Billy Vegas says so.

Right? Why should we trust him? At least she provided a link!

This is the problem with media, in general. Take a thought, transpose that thought with many "if's", or "it's reported", and run with it.


Earlier today, I saw a headline "Wal Mart and Kroger jack up prices on home covid tests." I read it. Turns out, WM, and Kroger, had an agreement to sell the tests at cost for 100 days. An agreement with the Biden admin. They fulfilled that agreement. And tests went from basically $15 to $19.

The headline ticked me off. At least the article I read spilled the truth IN the article.

Media: Take a slant and run with it, true or not. Misleading as can be.

jc

so, anybody not notice a common theme here?

yall bashing MKC, and yet every former browns QB replying is......a former browns QB.

as in, not on team anymore.

there's just no way im the only one noticing that.

but maybe there is. all yall thought trubisky would be better than watson, and that baker would be better than lamar.

so imma go with MKC over you guys who have been wrong. literally. every. single. time.

The reason the ex and current QB don't like her is because she is a troll.

ex QB being the key words right there. Kizer didnt even last a year before he was...traded.

Brandon weed last two years....cut.


i mean....

Andre Knott agrees.

Remember when OBJ would always say he was happy here and the rumors about him wanting out were bogus? Me too.

Should be a fun offseason!

Well Baker says she is full of crap. If anyone knows whats going on its Baker. Did you even read that article? It was extremely negative and inflammatory. She even said that it was Baker's fault that he got injured. Injuries happen. But trying to blame someone for them is pretty low.

right. kizer and weeden said the same thing.

and yet they're gone. we picked up his 5th year instead of signing him to an extension. unless we plan on doing him like Prescott or Cousins, well...

That's all im saying Eve. there's a lot of FORMER browns players who disagreed with MKC, and yet.....former.

It's not like she doesn't have a history of posting trash. She makes a living posting trash.

You gonna start believing tabloids now?

To be fair Weeden was retirement age his second year in the league.

And Kizer had no business in the league......

Who wouldn't notice it? Who else would be qualified to respond besides other QBs? It sounds like you're using this as a "where there's smoke there's fire" type statement that proves Baker and the other two are lying.

That's fine, you have the right to believe whatever you want, but then doubling down on "you guys" being wrong about QB picks has nothing to do with the conversation! "You guys" just simply choose to believe the actual QB's words rather than somebody that gets paid to get clicks... and as far as I remember, Mary Kay wanted Sam Darnold!

lots came out about Kizer later on. poor kid was pissing himself scared before they put him in.

He needed a year or two to grow into the league so he could have a chance.

Roger Brown.
Man, years ago on the old board, someone had RB's head shot in his sig. The text was,
"Roger Brown- he looks like he's thinking, but then you read the articles..."

I might be on board, but I would like to see resolution on any pending sexual misconduct charges and any pending suspensions the NFL my impose.

Has all that been sorted out? If so, great. If not, I sure don't want to be trading for a player who might be facing time in jail, and or a lengthy suspension by the NFL.

If we were talking about anything football-related, that would be one thing. But what we're talking about is MKC being a terrible journalist. We already knew this to be true, but were worried "even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while". The ex-QBs were commenting about her being terrible at her job, and not anything related to what they failed to do.

Most of the time, the most simple and obvious option is the truth.

If D. Watson settles his problems and came here he would definitely be an upgrade. However, who says he would want to come here? Let's face it, Cleveland is not the most attractive destination in the league. Food for thought.

I strongly disagree.

I just think we need a couple weeks of no Browns activity (so a couple weeks after this Sunday) for the dust to settle and for us to take an un-emotional look at the team.

We lost a ton of really close games with a seriously devastated roster. Our Oline gets healthy, and our offense is already mostly fixed. Yes, we do have a lot of work to do on the passcatcher groups, but Chubb and Hunt are still here, and our Oline (except for maybe Conklin?) should return healthy to start the year. That is huge. What's also huge is our defense. We have a really stout group that should (hopefully) return being able to pick up where they left off. We MUST re-sign Clowney and get someone for Takk's spot (hopefully a promising draft pick).

we embraced kareem who was on video. if the guy gets suspended for misconduct but no charges, whats the difference?

if we can embrace and forgive kareem, we can embrace and forgive watson whos on the same he said/she said stuff.

i think Watson would come here. the best O line he'll ever have. the best RB and TE groups. the scheme would be perfect for him, and stefanski would actually trust him to make the right reads and throws.

This is my only doubt.

I'd like to see Watson here. But I think, no matter what the legal system finds, the NFL is going to give him a lengthy suspension. Especially if he's a Brown.

as he should. i said it when the cases first dropped; at the very minimum that was cringe creepy behavior by watson. he should get 6-10 games just like Kareem.

im just talking about the pure football aspect. he's a top 5 QB who we will have on a 4 year contract that looks like a BARGAIN.

Wait...are you saying we have the best TE group? Or even close to a top tier group there? My goodness if so.

If Watson goes to Pitt it'll be a 4-6 game suspension...if he comes here it will be 10-17.

Swap Baker for him straight up asap - as they both have big ??? right now - and roll with Keenum for '22 until DW is available to play in '23. That will get us a top pick for 2023 where we can draft some pass-catching rookies for DW to throw to...in about a year-and-a-half. The free agents will will pick up with Keenum at the helm will be legendary.

bro you really that down on our TE's? i think they're good. Hooper is a bit disappointing but overall with him, bryant, and Njoku i think we're really solid there.

Both DeShaun Watson and Russell Wilson have a no trade clause, and I really doubt either would waive it to play here because we're not a destination city or a media center, and also because of Stefanski's "muted", reduced risk approach to offense.