Yeah, it's a shame when the media goes after the adult children of politicians. Maybe now that Baron is an adult he'll get a job in The White House along side Ivanka and Jared.
Like I said, this sicko has been doing it since Barron was 12...
Aw. Inventing pedos now. Not long ago you railed against an experiment that may have reduced pedophilia. It seems to be a fixation with you. Is there something you would like to tell us?
Aw. Inventing pedos now. Not long ago you railed against an experiment that may have reduced pedophilia. It seems to be a fixation with you. Is there something you would like to tell us?
Yes. I'd like to let it be known once again, that unlike YOU, I do not support child sex dolls for pedos.
And your excuse for that trash: "How do we know it won't work?"
So even after I've posted proof from clinical psychologists that this would actually promote pedophilia, you still support child sex dolls for pedos.
I think you missed the "non violent" part. Man you are on a roll today. lol
I didn't miss anything.
This is just another example of step after step after step to "protect" criminals, reward bad behavior, and make even the most egregious of society's bad actors -- VICTIMS.
It's the biggest hallmark of the left's woke ideology, this is just one more step towards the continued madness.
Yes, I already told you I support trying almost anything that may lessen pedophilia. You do not. There were studies in the other direction that indicated it might help. But you ignored that to fight against at least trying to help lessen the problem. But I understand your need to protect sex dolls more than children. No, wait, I don't.
Dude's been posting pics of Barron and picking on him since he was twelve.
A. Piece of Garbage Human B. Pedominor attracted person C. Both
I vote C. You don't like it, pound salt.
Since you seem extremely confused as to what pedophilia actually looks like, I'll give you an example. Maybe this will help you in the future from flailing your arms making accusations with no basis in facts.....
Businessman pleads guilty in polygamous leader's scheme to orchestrate sexual acts involving underage girls
Labeling someone as human garbage doesn't make them or mean that they're actually human garbage. A lesson you can't seem to learn. You simply label them to suit yourself regardless of anything other than your feelings. What I posted was factual. What you posted was a fantasy created in your own mind. You seem to be having difficulty understanding the difference.
Don't forget the links for the Child Sex Dolls and how they will help. I'm eager to see what no one else has been able to produce.
Trying to have an actual conversation or debate with you is meaningless and a waste of time.
From the national library of medicine.....
Summary
Despite an absence of empirical data on the characteristics and subsequent effects of doll ownership, discussions about the ethical and legal status of doll ownership continue. This highlights a real and urgent need for a coherent research agenda to be advanced in this area of work.
Much like I was advocating they should try it on an experimental basis to see if the findings would indicate if it helped or not.
It includes all sex doll ownership and how such ownership relates in terms of behavior. If you mean it wasn't broken down into subsets you are correct.
This study is all inclusive. The word "specifically" does not exclude the fact that all information wasn't entered into the study. You do understand that the "the possible effects of sex dolls on human sexuality" is exactly what we have been discussing, right? Your issue is it isn't exclusively about the portion of the topic you wish to focus on.
No. That is NOT what we've been discussing at all.
We've been discussing giving sex dolls that look like kids to known pedophiles. NOT pondering the effects of sex dolls on the general population.
That's like talking about vehicular deaths and statistics and acting like they represent the statistics of drunk drivers -- because "they're included".
Yeah, it's a shame when the media goes after the adult children of politicians. Maybe now that Baron is an adult he'll get a job in The White House along side Ivanka and Jared.
Like I said, this sicko has been doing it since Barron was 12...
Likely a pedo, but that's okay in Libville...
LMAO@U
If Barron gets Benny Boy’d by a pedo, it would be due to Trump’s bad karma and his pedo history with Jeffry Epstein. Now I would never wish that on the innocent kid. But soon that kid will be a grown Trump jackass, just like the other two. And I’m 99% sure they were both Benny Boy’d.
"Despite an absence of empirical data on the characteristics and subsequent effects of doll ownership"
There is no data on the effects owning sex dolls has on the conduct of the people who own them. I want to find out if this would lessen the acts of pedophilia against children. You do not. Maybe it's the dolls you are trying to protect rather than the children. Seems kind of strange.
I want to find out if teaching alcoholics to drive drunk will reduce vehicular homicides. I think we taxpayers (those of us that actually pay) should buy some cars to smash up.
I think we should fund a VR game for youths that show the early signs of being a serial killer. Let them torture and cut up animals in the VR world, maybe then they won't do it in real life.
"Despite an absence of empirical data on the characteristics and subsequent effects of doll ownership"
There is no data on the effects owning sex dolls has on the conduct of the people who own them. I want to find out if this would lessen the acts of pedophilia against children. You do not. Maybe it's the dolls you are trying to protect rather than the children. Seems kind of strange.
And now you're saying that since there's NO DATA to back up your absurd theory, it's an even better idea??
I want to find out if teaching alcoholics to drive drunk will reduce vehicular homicides. I think we taxpayers (those of us that actually pay) should buy some cars to smash up.
#DrunkLivesMatter
Maybe if they were driving fake cars. You know, when the item is fake nobody gets hurt and there isn't a crash.
Sadly the average sentence for pedophilia is only 87 to 108 months. The cost of keeping an inmate in an Ohio prison for a year is $30,558 per year. it seems you prefer to keep spending all the money that way instead of seeing if we can cut down on that cost.
And now you're saying that since there's NO DATA to back up your absurd theory, it's an even better idea??
Can't make it up!
I'm saying to find out of it helps is a good idea. You do understand that to find out if something works or not at some point you have to get the data on whether it works or not. Otherwise we just hear meaningless gibberish like we see you doing here.
I seem to remember seeing a study from a few years ago that demonstrated that areas if the country with the highest porn use had the lowest incidence of sexually violent crimes. The theory being that porn gave a safe outlet to those predisposed to committing these types if crimes.
And now you're saying that since there's NO DATA to back up your absurd theory, it's an even better idea??
Can't make it up!
I'm saying to find out of it helps is a good idea. You do understand that to find out if something works or not at some point you have to get the data on whether it works or not. Otherwise we just hear meaningless gibberish like we see you doing here.
So in your world there is no way this could hurt, correct?
Even though clinical psychologists have insisted this is dangerous and lends to "rehearsal" and building the fantasy to the point where they act on it, we should just throw all of that out because Pit@DawgTalkers?
And then you're going to virtue signal as if others don't care because "try it, what could go wrong?"
And lastly, in your world of strawmen and mutually exclusive b.s. arguments, you want to discount the long list of things that do work because letting sickos bang child sex dolls on the taxpayers dime is a better idea. You say "nothing else has worked" and promote a blatant LIE to support your argument.
I can't even describe how disturbing this argument is, not that you care.
An argument doesn't equal data. A supposition isn't a relevant way to construct the point you aren't willing to try to help lessen the problem. That's why everything and the points were shown on both sides they write in that source, the summary stated there needed to be studies conducted. But you go on and keep claiming that we should feed the prison system rather than try a possible solution. I'm sure obstructionist have a handbook that helps you try and stifle progress.
The source says there would need to be studies to analyze the true effect of sex dolls on humans. It doesn't say "we need to do studies", it says "we can't reach a conclusion without them". And again, this entire paper pertains to sex dolls in general...
Not child sex dolls for pedophiles to see if it makes them stop raping.
You wish to continue to spend $37,624 a year to keep these people in prison and continue the pattern of children being sexually abused rather than try to address the problem and see if we can lessen the problem. Now you wish to say when someone says humans you know what they meant by your decision to exclude certain humans. When in fact if there is one group of humans whose behavior we should see if we can change it would be pedophiles. I'm not worried about people who give a damn about trying to lesson pedophilia in our society reading my posts.
And you wish to sell some sick, twisted story that child sex dolls for convicted child rapists will change all that.
1. It's stupid and has not even a semblance of common sense. 2. It's disingenuous because there's no way to tell if it would help, and there are many more veritable hypotheses that it would hurt. 3. It's based on a blatant lie that nothing else is working. 4. It's. gross.
I'm done talking about it. You're better than this and just wish to argue ancillary talking points to a disgusting, pointless conversation. Even the idiot that introduced it admitted she stretched the truth of a late night google dive. There are absolutely NO studies that even hint that this is a good idea, yet you keep citing them.
I'll do you a favor and bow out of this gross-ass conversation, maybe someone else will take up the argument. I'm done, and you're welcome.
I'm selling the story that I think it's worth finding out by conducting a study to see if it will help things. It's very odd that you call it sick, twisted and gross when it's to find out if it helps prevent or lessen cases of pedophilia. Let me explain to you what's really sick, twisted and gross. Pedophilia The person who pulled the bill is a politician. Bowing to political pressure doesn't mean someone was wrong.
So you refuse to try a study to find out if it will help because you think trying this is more sick, twisted and gross that pedophilia? When did I "cite" a study? Are those children that you are refusing to say deserve the right to see if we can find a way to lesson the number of victims welcome too?
The Dems in California really need to get their crap together and do something about this homeless crisis in their state.
Im so sick of the policies essentially being “let’s just move them out of everyday eye sight” instead of doing something to address root problems.
You mean like addiction and abuse? The elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about?
I'm all for clean needles, keeping people safe, etc... but "kid hands" is not working.
This kind of stuff is disgusting, and I don't know how anyone in their right mind can look at turning our heads on this stuff as "being kind and understanding" or "helping"... but it's deeper than that... when you turn the cheek you can act like you're trying to help while actually fulfilling your own sadistic agenda.
And yes, I know this is an hour, but it's worth the watch, it should win awards. Cast it to the big screen, don't pop popcorn, you might throw up.
Realizing the difference between a disease and a crime is very helpful. Having and filling more treatment centers rather than jail cells would be a great start.
They need to reduce the cost for rehab for additiction and mental health issues. Rehabs/Inpatient Treatment is very expensive and these people dont usually have insurance. The help is there, but they often dont have access to it.
Realizing the difference between a disease and a crime is very helpful. Having and filling more treatment centers rather than jail cells would be a great start.
Yeah, but that knife cuts both ways. Decriminalizing something and telling people it's not their fault doesn't work either. Other than the posture we seem to be taking, I definitely agree.
They need to reduce the cost for rehab for additiction and mental health issues. Rehabs/Inpatient Treatment is very expensive and these people dont usually have insurance. The help is there, but they often dont have access to it.
First, I agree 100%. Although I really think we've grown quite a bit in offering free help to those that can't afford it, particularly in big cities.
The problem is the efficacy of the help itself. Most of these programs are designed for failure because failure keeps asses in the seats and funding in the inbox. They won't admit it, but it's definitely true. Almost all studies state it takes at least 180 days to be of clean mind, body and spirit... yet almost all treatment programs end after 90 days... with a gold coin and a swift kick back out into the real world.
There are usually services and FQHC's and other programs that people can access for free. I know I've mentioned this before, but my wife has been doing that work for 1.5 decades now. I know federal grants are given to those programs to help facilitate services, but the success and usage of those funds vary from state to state, politician to politician. I remember my wife expressed frustration with both R and D governor administrations in Ohio at how some of the funds were "routed" to places that really were not helpful because it appeared that somebody benefitted. A lot of it depended on who the person was that was in charge.
I'm not sure what the deal is in California between the services that are available and the outreach to actually link those services with the homeless/mentally ill population. I could see Mr. French Laundry being very disconnected on that front, however.
I don't think having a disease is the fault of the person who has such a disease. But I'm not sure it shouldn't be illegal to some extent. Decriminalization doesn't make something legal. It just means you won't be prosecuted for a small amount. Even that is something I'm rather torn about other than weed. The reason I'm torn about it is that a drug addiction creates victims. Whether they get to the point of stealing from their families or others to support their habit to the pain inflicted upon their entire families.
I'm at the point that I think hard drugs should certainly be illegal but not to the level of a felony for small amounts. That way the court system can force people to get the help they need and monitor them to see if they're still using. Jail time can be held over their heads if they don't comply. I know people say and to a great extent that I agree people won't change until they feel they need to change. But I also find it quite possible that they very well may need to see a change should take place with the proper guidance and counseling. I know that's not the perfect solution but there are drug courts in many communities that work similar to this and as of now it seems to be the best solution I've seen floating around.
Realizing the difference between a disease and a crime is very helpful. Having and filling more treatment centers rather than jail cells would be a great start.
Yeah, but that knife cuts both ways. Decriminalizing something and telling people it's not their fault doesn't work either. Other than the posture we seem to be taking, I definitely agree.
I would love to see us moving a large population of drug criminals (ones that are only in jail for using drugs, but not distributors and stuff like that) out of jails and into rehab, and divert that funding appropriately.
Prison should be a punishment, and as such isn't the kind of place you send someone to turn their life away from drugs. I have a hard time sending someone who is only hurting themselves to prison, a place that will generally make it harder to fix the stuff that got that person to that state.
I don't think there are many 'users' in prison. Mostly dealers. Many definitely deserving to be there and have a long list of other charges to back that up.
Other than those tidbits, I agree with the premise 100%.
I don't think there are many 'users' in prison. Mostly dealers. Many definitely deserving to be there and have a long list of other charges to back that up.
Other than those tidbits, I agree with the premise 100%.
Many addicts are forced into dealing. I could see in those cases without a list of other charges on the individual could benefit in a rehabilitation center rather than in a cell.
I'm saying one is no better than the other. Would you like for me to show you some of the BS trump has simply made up in his own mind? When someone can't even find the words to say and has to fill it in with "bing, bing, bong bong" on multiple occasions let's not pretend he doesn't have his own issues. You can try to point the finger in only one direction all you like but it won't change the fact trump really isn't any better.
I'm saying one is no better than the other. Would you like for me to show you some of the BS trump has simply made up in his own mind? When someone can't even find the words to say and has to fill it in with "bing, bing, bong bong" on multiple occasions let's not pretend he doesn't have his own issues. You can try to point the finger in only one direction all you like but it won't change the fact trump really isn't any better.
So Biden is holding a fundraiser tonight with Obama and Clinto and a slate of A-list stars. Imagine that, A-listers, Trump has never pulled that off.
Yeah, Trump is too busy attending the funeral of the police officer who was murdered. Parties are more important than issues to libtards.
Yeah, but the guy that killed him has 21 arrests including 10 felonies and was let out this month on a gun charge. He's black, so this just goes to show that Trump is #racist.
Besides, this story isn't on MSDNC or CNN, are you sure it's real??
Sorry Fate and Eve, I didn’t watch that propaganda. But you both know that’s what Fox, OAN, and other fascist rags serve far right domestic terrorists.
EDIT- Oh, I forgot the anarchists who claim they dislike Trump but side with GOPers because even though they are traitorous exactly as labeled, the anarchist feels an overwhelming sense of fairness and defends and excuse the worst of human behavior hoping the government fails.
Next Trump will offer up Trump dildos for two reasons; he enjoys demoing them on himself AND he wants every sucker on his list to buy one so after the election they can go screw themselves.
I'm saying one is no better than the other. Would you like for me to show you some of the BS trump has simply made up in his own mind? When someone can't even find the words to say and has to fill it in with "bing, bing, bong bong" on multiple occasions let's not pretend he doesn't have his own issues. You can try to point the finger in only one direction all you like but it won't change the fact trump really isn't any better.
blah blah blah whatabout
I guess when that's all you got, that's all you got.
Now cops getting murdered is right wing propaganda.
Here's the facts since you don't have time for actual news...
What to know about the fatal shooting of NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller: * Diller, 31, was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop in Far Rockaway, Queens, on March 25, 2024. * Suspect Guy Rivera opened fire on Diller on Monday evening after the cop approached the vehicle Rivera was in for parking in front of a bus stop. * Diller was shot once in the stomach below his bulletproof vest. The married father of a 1-year-old boy was rushed to Jamaica Hospital, where he was later pronounced dead. * Rivera was wounded when Diller’s partner returned fire. The suspect has 21 prior arrests and was found to have a shiv stored in his rectum during the shooting — in apparent anticipation of being sent to jail again. * Lindy Jones, the ex-con behind the wheel of the car during the shooting, was also arrested after a second gun was found in his car.
Any time a law enforcement official is killed in the line of duty it's a tragedy.
This one could have been avoided if the animal that killed him was behind bars. Instead, a career criminal was on the streets because of defund the police, soft on crime, race baiting politics of Democrats.
Any time a law enforcement official is killed in the line of duty it's a tragedy.
This one could have been avoided if the animal that killed him was behind bars. Instead, a career criminal was on the streets because of defund the police, soft on crime, race baiting politics of Democrats.
Don't worry, "Mayor Eric Adams has renewed his calls for Albany to address criminal recidivism following the shooting involving two suspects with lengthy criminal records."
They're going to put together a panel to see if career criminals who have never stopped committing crimes will keep committing crimes.
In other news we don't need to study: the sidewalk is always wet after it rains.
First, "defund" is sometimes less about dollars and more about (common)sense. Police have been leaving NYC in record numbers since they all became classified as ACAB. As the story states: "mass exodus".
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The spike in NYPD officers quitting or retiring as soon as they are eligible, started in 2020.
Cops leaving in record numbers directly followed the ‘defend the police’ movement and protests about police brutality in the wake of George Floyd's death.
Police Benevolent Association, PBA president Patrick Henry said the anti-police sentiment, coupled with bail reform laws, makes it hard to retain veteran cops.
Their funding has been increasing fort years now. No amount of mental gymnastics can change that. We both know what D of the D was saying and it's a very popular myth.
Despite 'defunding' claims, police funding has increased in many U.S. cities
I don't think it's mental gymnastics. Did you read the statement from the Police Benevolent Association? In short, cops don't want to be cops anymore, they're all quitting... everywhere. Chicago is in worse shape than NYC. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's not called Chicago anymore, it's more commonly referred to as Chiraq.
All I'm saying is "defund" isn't just about $$. Defund prompted police to say "no mas" and criminals to be handed a get out of jail free card, with ridiculous bail reform laws and prosecutors and DAs that have been informed that kissing the ass of the far-left keeps you employed.
There are many facets to the problem, and "funding" is just one aspect. With that said, funding will need to be through the roof over the next few years: to train new cops, to over-populate the force so they're not overworked, to add feet on the ground in places overtaken by crime and to try to entice vets to stay on the force.
Reading that article I posted I saw one troubling issue that will cost an enormous amount of money... NYC cops have absolutely no reason to stay beyond twenty years, no better retirement, no better pay, no better pension. Better fix that yesterday before the rest of the 'experience' leaves the building.
Big time music mogul and huge Democrat fundraiser “P Diddy” is being accused of running a huge sex trafficking ring that includes pedophilia. Does this mean we can say all democrats support this, especially since he has ties to presidents? Isn’t that how it works around here, Fate?
Of course I don’t think that way, just making the point that some on here do. This story is growing. Names like Jay Z and Universal Studios CEO Lucian Grainge are allegedly involved.
I don't actually disagree with you nearly as much as you think I do but I also think you're being a little overly simplistic. I think there are a variety of reason why "cops don't want to be cops anymore".
I do agree with you that it must be frustrating for them to see criminals continually being let back out and on the streets. I think it's ridiculous that some of these people are walking around in society rather than being incarcerated. That's certainly a big factor. I fail to see how that's requesting or requiring cops to " kiss the ass of the far-left".
However I think there are other reasons that contribute to it. There are also cops who like to, let's say "take liberties" in their policing. I believe now that cops are being held more accountable in our legal system is another reason cops no longer want to be cops. It's getting much harder for them to get a free pass on beating up suspects, fatally harming them when there's no cause for it. They are being held accountable when they abuse suspects and in some cases even kill suspects. I think there are a percentage of police that feel they are above the law and believe they shouldn't be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Then there's the cost of living in many urban areas. In many places, New York being one of them and here in Nashville as well, it's hard for a cop to afford to live in and around the communities they work for.
So we certainly agree on at least part of the reason cops no longer want to be cops. I just don't think it's a one size fits all issue. I don't think you can make a blanket statement that quite covers it all.
But then also I think one has to ask, how many more jails and prisons do we think we can build and how quickly can they be built? Because capacity has to play into this at some point.
I actually try to play devil's advocate as well when crap like this goes down. Probably unfair to throw shade at everyone on the guest list straight from the jump if all they knew was "Diddy throws great parties".
Gotta dig deep enough to establish who frequented and knew what was going on.
There is already a ton of circumstantial evidence and reliable hearsay that he was drugging girls and many of the people at these parties knew that. Throw them in jail and toss the key.
I cannot even wrap my mind around some of this crap. Like Watson, who could likely have almost any woman he wanted, WTF?? I think it's almost like a God complex and it begins when you are placed on that pedestal so high above all others. And just like every great artist, there is a "peak"... and then a rest of a career trying to match that high. On one hand, it's sad, and probably lonely. On the other, it takes me less than one second to snap back to the reality of the situation, how it takes them even one second longer is beyond me.
Big time music mogul and huge Democrat fundraiser “P Diddy” is being accused of running a huge sex trafficking ring that includes pedophilia. Does this mean we can say all democrats support this, especially since he has ties to presidents? Isn’t that how it works around here, Fate?
No, that's not the way it works around here. At least not for most of us. Everyone labeled as a liberal on the board called for the George Floyd rioters to be tried of their criminal charges and everyone of them who were convicted be held to the standard punishment that the law calls for. Nobody called them hostages and talked about them being pardoned either.
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Of course I don’t think that way, just making the point that some on here do. This story is growing. Names like Jay Z and Universal Studios CEO Lucian Grainge are allegedly involved.
While I can't speak for everyone else on the board, as far as I'm concerned anyone and everyone who is convicted of any and all crimes connected to this should face the same standard of punishment as anyone else would.
Thats a straight lie. The libtards on this forum were in deep denial that any rioting at all was going on during the floyd riots. Video was posted showing it on a daily basis and you libtards still denied it.
When it comes to blaming others for the actions of one, or a few is how it works around here for some. That isn’t a dems thing either. There are those on the right that do it as well. For you to say that’s not how it works is laughable.
When I posted this I was not thinking of you in the slightest. That’s actually not completely true. I don’t think you do that but I knew you would respond
Yeah, I thing we probably agree on 75% of all subjects (except the one's you're clueless about ) and argue like hell about the other 25.
We need some serious reform on all levels. It's so complicated and convoluted, I don't even know where to begin. One thing I feel strongly about is that we need to make room, at all costs, for repeat violent criminals. And recidivism needs to spell in increase in penalty. It almost seems as if the opposite is true.
And just for clarity, I didn't say police need to kiss that ass, I said DAs and prosecutors know that it means job security, in the here and now, anyway.
Thats a straight lie. The libtards on this forum were in deep denial that any rioting at all was going on during the floyd riots. Video was posted showing it on a daily basis and you libtards still denied it.
You obviously weren't paying attention. What some were denying is that it was BLM conducting those riots. They began after dark and after the actual protest marches had concluded. Nobody upheld or excused the criminal behavior that took place. Try to keep up next time.
Thats a straight lie. The libtards on this forum were in deep denial that any rioting at all was going on during the floyd riots. Video was posted showing it on a daily basis and you libtards still denied it.
You obviously weren't paying attention. What some were denying is that it was BLM conducting those riots. They began after dark and after the actual protest marches had concluded. Nobody upheld or excused the criminal behavior that took place. Try to keep up next time.
No you all were in complete denial. You were then and you are now.
Eight migrants found squatting last week inside a Norwood, Bronx apartment were arrested on gun and drug charges, but six of them were subsequently released without bail. 😮
"Let them go... they probably needed to sell the drugs and guns to feed the kid! Nobody cares about the kids anymore!!"
Suspected migrant squatters found in NYC apartment with child face gun, drug charges One of the migrants was arrested last year on attempted murder charges
By Michael Dorgan Fox News Published April 2, 2024 6:27pm EDT | Updated April 3, 2024 9:34am EDT
A group of eight migrants who sources said were found squatting in the basement of a New York City apartment with a child are facing drugs and weapons charges after police found ketamine, cocaine and guns at the home.
The NYPD busted the migrants Wednesday after authorities were called to a Bronx apartment following a report of a person displaying a gun just after 10 p.m., police said.
When police arrived, they found a man pointing a gun at someone in the driveway of the apartment at 3259 Hull Ave., NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell told the New York Post. But the suspect took off when the police approached him and fled into the building’s basement, he added.
The officers allegedly chased and tackled the man, who they later identified as Hector Desousa-Villalta, 24, of Venezuela, who was arrested for attempted murder last year and subsequently let go.
While police were collaring Desousa-Villalta, another man, Javier Alborno, 22, also of Venezuela, tried to sneak out of the same basement with a handgun tucked under his arm. But the officers saw him and cuffed him too, Chell added. Alborno is also no stranger to law enforcement, having been arrested in September and indicted for possession of a loaded gun.
A search of the basement apartment revealed two additional guns and a large quantity of a controlled substance, police said.
BOSTON MAYOR SILENT ON SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES AMID MIGRANT CRIME REPORTS
The weapons included a "ghost gun" and three extended magazines, a box of ammunition, a bag of ketamine and a bag of ketamine mixed with cocaine, the Post reported, citing Chell.
Police also found a 7-year-old child inside the apartment. The NYPD was unable to say who the child’s parents are.
Many of the eight suspects are from the South American country and all of them were squatting in the house, Fox News sources say.
Video from the scene shows bags of trash, a chair, a mattress and other items strewn across the backyard of the property. There is also an inflatable pool partly filled with water and a moped at the side of the house. A wheelchair could also be seen on the front porch.
ICE AGENTS RECAPTURE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CHARGED WITH RAPE WHO WAS RELEASED ONTO STREETS IN VIRGINIA
Alfred Munoz, a neighbor, described what he saw.
"There were a lot of people, a lot of young people, a lot of motorcycles," Munoz told WNYW. "You know, at one point, you know, there were seven, eight motorcycles parked in the back."
Documents viewed by Fox News Digital reveal that the landlord moved to evict the tenants of the building in October after their lease term ended Oct. 13. It does not name the tenants. It is unclear if people are still squatting at the house.
In total, eight people, including one woman, 20-year-old Yoessy Pino Castillo, were arrested in relation to last week’s incident. The remaining men collared were Yerbin Lozado-Munoz, 25, Yojairo Martinez, 42, Miquel Vaamondes-Barrios, 31, Jefferson Orlando Abreau, 39, Johan Cardenas Silva, 35.
All eight were charged with criminal possession of a weapon, criminal possession of a controlled substance and acting in a manner injurious to a child, police say.
NYC squatters arrested The backyard of the property was littered with used items and trash. (WNYW)
Desousa-Villalta, who was allegedly waving a gun last Wednesday, was cut loose without bail despite the Bronx District Attorney's Office telling Fox News that prosecutors asked that he be held on $150,000 bail.
He allegedly shot a fellow migrant in the leg during an argument over a woman in Yonkers in August 2023, but the attempted murder case fell apart when the victim refused to cooperate, Chell said, according to the Post.
Alborno, who police say also had a gun Wednesday night, was still in custody as of Tuesday, the Bronx DA's office said.
Alborno was indicted for possession of a loaded gun in September and cut loose after that incident even though the Bronx district attorney requested $10,000 bail, the Post reported, citing Chell.
Vaamondes-Barrios is also being held and wanted for retail theft and shoplifting in both New York and Pennsylvania.
The remaining six migrants have all been let go without bail despite the Bronx DA requesting bail for them.
Actually the only thing I questioned about your post was what you mean by "it". You explained what you meant and I made no further comment in regards to it. But of course you know that.
Her ramblings and use of consistently using the term "libtard" is truly of the trumpian style. Or lack of style and taste as it is. Pointing that out is something I will continue to do. My only mention of trump is how much she sounds just like him. I'm sorry that hurts your sensibilities. Actually, no I'm not.
Pit at 12:40 pm. responding to eve saying the shoe fits: "There is another place where the shoe would fit but I don't hear about you sticking it up there."
Pit at 12:42 "It has never happens when "someone disagrees with me". It happens when people hurl insults with zero content."
Pit at 12:56: "The only point is seems that you have proven is the one on top of your head."
I just wanted to thank all of the participants in the little game yesterday. You see, we have people come on here and post nasty things with zero content quite a bit. One posts like a shemale truck driver with an eighth grade education screaming and name calling at every turn.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Trump loves the uneducated, we need people to ship goods across the nation and what ever would we do without having people screaming out Murica and Freedumb!? So I didn't want you to get the impression I thought that was a bad thing.
We have another saying we're all doomed to hell if we don't push national Christian agenda into everyone's life and our schools. Then there's day of the dog and keith pushing their rhetoric. Now everyone has the right to do that. None of that is against the rules. But it's quite funny how none of those who responded to my posts yesterday ever say a word about the others. When it's their side doing it they have no objections. They remain silent at all costs.
But of course that's exactly what I expected. A total double standard and hypocrisy. The entire display was hilarious! I expected those who try to label others as #snowflakes and being #triggered to come out from the shadows and prove it is actually they themselves they are describing. Job well done!
So in case you were confused which it seems as though you were, when you never question the ramblings of a trumpian, when you never speak out against their crazy rhetoric and only target those who speak out against him, you are in fact supporting the trumpian message.
Blaming me because you never utter a word about their rhetoric. Interesting yet weak cover. You've never spoken out about anyone acting just as bad or worse from the other side. Just own it.
I've been on the fence for a while. The blatant denial of people, particularly those at DawgTalkers, of the supreme damage this corpse of a (p)resident and administration has done to my country has convinced me that Trump is the only choice.
Blaming me because you never utter a word about their rhetoric. Interesting yet weak cover. You've never spoken out about anyone acting just as bad or worse from the other side. Just own it.
He doesn't have to post like a libtard. It's not a requirement for existing, being an American, or anything else. Is this your measure for hatred? People who dont spew libtard lemming BS?
'Serial squatter' refusing to leave $2M Seattle home escapes eviction for THIRD time after non-profit coughs up another $50K in taxpayer cash to cover his rent
* It takes the total amount of state handouts paid to keep squatter Sang Kim and his family in the five-bedroom home for two years to around $90,000 * Mr Kim's $4,400-a-month rent has been covered by non-profit Housing Justice Project, but his landlord has slammed it as a 'terrible abuse' of taxpayer cash * The squatter has only paid one month's rent out of his own pocket and has allegedly pulled the same trick at another $1.3million home nearby
A 'serial squatter' refusing to leave a $2million Seattle home has dodged eviction for a third time after a controversial non-profit stepped in with $50,000 of taxpayer cash to cover his rent, DailyMail.com can reveal.
Sang Kim has sparked fury in the upmarket neighborhood of Bellevue after squatting for almost two years in a five-bedroom property owned by Jaskaran Sarao.
But an eviction hearing scheduled for April 5 has been scrapped after the Housing Justice Project (HJP) covered almost a year in unpaid rent to keep him in the property.
A 'serial squatter' refusing to leave a $2million Seattle home has dodged eviction for a third time after a controversial non-profit stepped in with $50,000 of taxpayer cash to cover his rent, DailyMail.com can reveal.
Sang Kim has sparked fury in the upmarket neighborhood of Bellevue after squatting for almost two years in a five-bedroom property owned by Jaskaran Sarao.
But an eviction hearing scheduled for April 5 has been scrapped after the Housing Justice Project (HJP) covered almost a year in unpaid rent to keep him in the property.
HJP gets $4.6million a year from Washington state and another $500,000 more from King County to pay its 32 lawyers and support staff.
The extraordinary row comes as thousands of American property owners struggle with a broken legal system that is allowing squatters to live rent free in upmarket homes without consequence.
Mr Kim, his wife Yougin and their two children moved into Mr Sarao's home in the summer of 2022, but have allegedly only paid for one month's rent out of their own pocket, according to court documents filed by their landlord.
The rest has been covered by the HJP, which provides legal assistance to renters facing eviction in Kings County.
It paid around $24,000 to cover Mr Kim's unpaid rent in February last year, with a further installment of around $13,000 that covered his payments until May 2023, according to Mr Sarao's attorney, Steven Freeborn.
But Mr Sarao had not received a penny since then, forcing Mr Freeborn to file a third notice of eviction.
It also sparked an ugly confrontation between the landlord and tenant, while around 200 protesters turned up to the property to demand the 'con man' cough up or get out.
Mr Kim even took out a restraining order against Mr Sarao after complaining of harassment.
The latest eviction hearing was scheduled for April 5, but was scrapped after HJP last week stumped up another $47,000 to cover the backdated rent, plus a further $4,400 to cover the month of April.
But Mr Sarao has little hope that his tenant will start paying out of his own pocket next month and will either have to file a fourth eviction notice or the taxpayer will keep having to pay.
Ultimately, he just wants Mr Kim out, he said.
Mr Freeborn, added: 'I don't think the good, taxpaying citizens of the state of Washington are going to be too happy about that.'
He said the HJP could go on paying Mr Kim's rent for 'as long as the state puts up with this nonsense'.
'It's ridiculous. They've paid almost $10,000 just to keep a guy in a $2million home in Bellevue.
'For that amount of money, they could move him to a less expensive community where he could live for three years or more.
'Why do the taxpayers need to pay this kind of rent?'
DailyMail.com has previously revealed that Mr Kim and his family are alleged to have moved into Mr Sarao's property from a previous squat nearby, where they used similar delaying tactics to avoid paying rent of around $4,000 a month on a three-bedroom, $1.3million home.
Kim and his wife Yougin were also earning a combined income of $408,000 a year working for medical consultancy SiriusIQ when they moved into Singh's property, according to a proof-of-income letter.
They lost their jobs shortly after.
But Mr Sarao claims the family continues to 'live a lavish life' in his home, 'doing barbecues, buying new cars, living in the best neighborhood and sending his kids to the best schools'.
Mr Kim has previously accused Singh of 'fabricating stories' about him and claims he is simply a Korean national trying to make it in the US.
Washington is the only state in the country that offers the right to counsel for low-income tenants facing eviction.
DailyMail.com contacted HJP for comment, but had not received a response at the time of publication.
Edmund Witter, its managing attorney, has previously said the non-profit keeps 'a lot of households housed that shouldn't be evicted.
In a statement to KIRO 7, the group said: 'If every tenant, just every time they look at somebody wrong or just do one thing wrong, we just throw them out every time, that's how you get a homelessness crisis. That's how you get people dying on the street.'
We're running out of threads, we need a new one every time Trump blows his nose. I'm just saving space for all you with your Trumpy panties on fire by condensing all the brain-dead lib policies into one thread.
It's blue cities that make these ridiculous rules, laws, exceptions, programs.
Seattle is one of the most famous for it's downright stupidity.
They're writing checks for $80,000 of taxpayer money to keep a piece of human trash in an expensive home he doesn't own. They call this taxpayer scam "Housing Justice Project".
If blowing his nose was all he had been doing we wouldn't need any threads about him. The last time I checked you don't face 88 criminal counts for blowing your nose.
So your claim is that squatters rights laws like this only exist in liberal cities? That similar laws don't exist in other places and are not in some cases state laws?
Don't blame your dreams on me. It's not my fault you keep obsessing about children's genitals.Yet another person who doesn't understand the meaning of "could".
Don't blame your dreams on me. It's not my fault you keep obsessing about children's genitals.Yet another person who doesn't understand the meaning of "could".
I support the protection of children and parents rights. You support the sexualization of children, the castration of children, and giving child sex dolls to pedophiles.
So you support parents right unless the parents make a choice you disagree with? Do you think someone other than their parents are getting these medications for their children and giving it to them? So if you are telling the truth about "parents rights", do your support parents rights to give their children these medications or do you only really support parents rights when parents do what you agree with?
I have never supported the castration of children. I'm not the one so obsessed with this I spent my Saturday afternoon looking up things that "could happen" and trying to make it sounds like that means something. At least you are being honest enough to admit you feel you have some superior moral right to choose for everyone.
You support all of those things including schools sneaking around behind parents back encouraging gender changes, exposing children to written porn, and exposing them to drag queens. All without informing parents. I support the right of parents to direct and control what their kids are exposed to.
Sorry your dreams of child castration is getting crushed due to them learning (suprise to no one) that its harmful.
The sand would seem to be a better place than where your head is buried. I'll ask you again. Since you seem to be for parents having a choice, who do you think it is getting those medications for their children and giving it to them? Do you support their right to choose?
Wine thirty must have come early for you yesterday.
The sand would seem to be a better place than where your head is buried. I'll ask you again. Since you seem to be for parents having a choice, who do you think it is getting those medications for their children and giving it to them? Do you support their right to choose?
Wine thirty must have come early for you yesterday.
No, I do not. I am for the protection of children. Any parent who wants to castrate their child should probably see a psychiatrist.
Three articles saying the exact same thing about the exact same person, talking about propaganda by basically saying oh, believe me, it's there!!. Zero mentioning anyone "talking about Russia in glowing terms". People questioning funding, or the cause and effect of war are not "speaking about Russia in glowing terms".
Try again, I want to know about all the republicans speaking about Russia in glowing terms. Maybe phone a friend.
It's hard for some to see the truth when they keep their eyes shut
It's hard to do anything but insult posters when you never have an idea that wasn't copied and pasted. Go find us some more articles about nothingness.
No, I do not. I am for the protection of children. Any parent who wants to castrate their child should probably see a psychiatrist.
You keep obsessing over sex change operations for children. This is something that's very rare and you dodged the actual question like a cockroach dodges poison.....
Ron DeSantis stated on August 4, 2022 in a press conference:
"They are literally chopping off the private parts of young kids."
Transition-related surgery limited to teens, not 'young kids.' Even then, it's rare
We found no examples of "young kids" receiving transition-related surgery. The Florida Department of Health differentiates between children - under 10 - and adolescents - between 10 and 18. DeSantis' office provided PolitiFact with two cases involving adolescents.
Try looking at an actual fact check instead of listening to fools.
Now back to what you stated about parental choice and those medications which are actually being used far more often......
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I'll ask you again. Since you seem to be for parents having a choice, who do you think it is getting those medications for their children and giving it to them? Do you support their right to choose?
Eight migrants found squatting last week inside a Norwood, Bronx apartment were arrested on gun and drug charges, but six of them were subsequently released without bail. 😮
"Let them go... they probably needed to sell the drugs and guns to feed the kid! Nobody cares about the kids anymore!!"
Suspected migrant squatters found in NYC apartment with child face gun, drug charges One of the migrants was arrested last year on attempted murder charges
By Michael Dorgan Fox News Published April 2, 2024 6:27pm EDT | Updated April 3, 2024 9:34am EDT
A group of eight migrants who sources said were found squatting in the basement of a New York City apartment with a child are facing drugs and weapons charges after police found ketamine, cocaine and guns at the home.
The NYPD busted the migrants Wednesday after authorities were called to a Bronx apartment following a report of a person displaying a gun just after 10 p.m., police said.
When police arrived, they found a man pointing a gun at someone in the driveway of the apartment at 3259 Hull Ave., NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell told the New York Post. But the suspect took off when the police approached him and fled into the building’s basement, he added.
The officers allegedly chased and tackled the man, who they later identified as Hector Desousa-Villalta, 24, of Venezuela, who was arrested for attempted murder last year and subsequently let go.
While police were collaring Desousa-Villalta, another man, Javier Alborno, 22, also of Venezuela, tried to sneak out of the same basement with a handgun tucked under his arm. But the officers saw him and cuffed him too, Chell added. Alborno is also no stranger to law enforcement, having been arrested in September and indicted for possession of a loaded gun.
A search of the basement apartment revealed two additional guns and a large quantity of a controlled substance, police said.
BOSTON MAYOR SILENT ON SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES AMID MIGRANT CRIME REPORTS
The weapons included a "ghost gun" and three extended magazines, a box of ammunition, a bag of ketamine and a bag of ketamine mixed with cocaine, the Post reported, citing Chell.
Police also found a 7-year-old child inside the apartment. The NYPD was unable to say who the child’s parents are.
Many of the eight suspects are from the South American country and all of them were squatting in the house, Fox News sources say.
Video from the scene shows bags of trash, a chair, a mattress and other items strewn across the backyard of the property. There is also an inflatable pool partly filled with water and a moped at the side of the house. A wheelchair could also be seen on the front porch.
ICE AGENTS RECAPTURE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CHARGED WITH RAPE WHO WAS RELEASED ONTO STREETS IN VIRGINIA
Alfred Munoz, a neighbor, described what he saw.
"There were a lot of people, a lot of young people, a lot of motorcycles," Munoz told WNYW. "You know, at one point, you know, there were seven, eight motorcycles parked in the back."
Documents viewed by Fox News Digital reveal that the landlord moved to evict the tenants of the building in October after their lease term ended Oct. 13. It does not name the tenants. It is unclear if people are still squatting at the house.
In total, eight people, including one woman, 20-year-old Yoessy Pino Castillo, were arrested in relation to last week’s incident. The remaining men collared were Yerbin Lozado-Munoz, 25, Yojairo Martinez, 42, Miquel Vaamondes-Barrios, 31, Jefferson Orlando Abreau, 39, Johan Cardenas Silva, 35.
All eight were charged with criminal possession of a weapon, criminal possession of a controlled substance and acting in a manner injurious to a child, police say.
NYC squatters arrested The backyard of the property was littered with used items and trash. (WNYW)
Desousa-Villalta, who was allegedly waving a gun last Wednesday, was cut loose without bail despite the Bronx District Attorney's Office telling Fox News that prosecutors asked that he be held on $150,000 bail.
He allegedly shot a fellow migrant in the leg during an argument over a woman in Yonkers in August 2023, but the attempted murder case fell apart when the victim refused to cooperate, Chell said, according to the Post.
Alborno, who police say also had a gun Wednesday night, was still in custody as of Tuesday, the Bronx DA's office said.
Alborno was indicted for possession of a loaded gun in September and cut loose after that incident even though the Bronx district attorney requested $10,000 bail, the Post reported, citing Chell.
Vaamondes-Barrios is also being held and wanted for retail theft and shoplifting in both New York and Pennsylvania.
The remaining six migrants have all been let go without bail despite the Bronx DA requesting bail for them.
They exist along with many others. So yes, rather than address the issue of squatters you targeted migrant squatters. Try reading your post again. Faux News and their purposeful targeting of immigrant squatters. Things people such as yourself eat up while acting like they are the main issue on something that has been a huge problem for years across all races and nationalities. I do understand why pointing that out would #trigger you though.
Somebody had to show others the nature of your disease. Would you like to see some black squatters as well? But it appears my goal was achieved. Once someone pointed the finger at squatters that looked like you do you didn't like it. They look like me too. But I was already aware of the fact that targeting others while refusing to take ownership that people who look like me are no less guilty of the same thing is wrong. Others? Not so much.
Three articles saying the exact same thing about the exact same person, talking about propaganda by basically saying oh, believe me, it's there!!. Zero mentioning anyone "talking about Russia in glowing terms". People questioning funding, or the cause and effect of war are not "speaking about Russia in glowing terms".
Try again, I want to know about all the republicans speaking about Russia in glowing terms. Maybe phone a friend.
Let's review shall we:
I said: "No matter what you think Eve, you cant top Republicans talking about Russia in Glowing terms. Republicans win for dumbest crap."
You asked me to NAME ONE:
I named three
Then I quoted a Republican Rep saying what I was saying and you decide that that isn't real.
And yes, they were caught spewing Russian Rhetoric and Propaganda.
It's not my fault you are incapable of understanding this. If you wanna back a bunch of Russia loving jackwads, be my guest.
Vote for Trump if you want a Hitler/Putin type dictator.. If that makes you sleep better at night to have a guy that can, with a wave of his finger, have you killed if you smile at him wrong. That's what Hitler did, that's what Putin does.
It's a dunder headed thng to do, but go for it. Like I said, if it makes you feel smart, be my guest
We are being led by morons on both sides of the aisle. Lord help us.
Which begs the question: "What are we everyday American voters supposed to do, to get a better slate of representatives?"
This person is no better equipped to represent you & me than a representative who blames eclipses, earthquakes, and "Jewish space lasers" for our current state of affairs.
Serious (non-partisan) question here... because we can't go on like this, if we wish to move forward a viable society.
Speaking up and doing it emphatically. We enable so much, my friend. So so much. You know why? Because we’re too busy trying to harvest excrement to throw at the other side, while we wait for our own side to try and show some semblance of rationality, but it rarely happens.
Do you think the people in northwest Georgia are objective and well-informed? Hell no. If they were, then why the hell would they put some butthead like her in office? If she was legitimately challenged by someone who had an inkling of critical thought in his/her own mind, with constituents who cared to listen, she’d get her ass kicked. She can’t even answer simple questions from the media. Watch her. It’s abhorrent.
That’s the problem though. The PerfectSpirals and the Eves of the world are controlling American politics. Their vote counts as much as yours and as much as mine. And you know what’s funny? Both of them probably would have been offed in a world of Chinese politics for saying half of the stuff that’s been said by both of them. But we are trying to run an ideal model of modern American politics that is supposed to be a beacon to the rest of the world of what everything should be like. And it should be like that.
BUUUT, we can’t get out of our own way. Right now, we have stupid constituents that are too busy throwing shade at the other side, while doing NOTHING to improve the district they reside in. Politicians focus on the dumbass constituents because their vote means just as much and they know they can capture those votes into perpetuity.
So you want to know what to do to effect change, my friend? And this is coming from someone who has started reaching the end of his rope. It’s to turn to our dumbass representatives who feel entitled in their role, regardless of party, and saying “Listen up you stupid butthead, I don’t like you. You really kinda suck. I’m going to vote for the other person unless you tangibly show me how you are legitimately representing my interests. Party means nothing to me. This is on you to prove yourself. If you don’t, we’ll find someone else!” And we have to follow up on that.
Otherwise, we are going to be stuck in the same BS we’re in.
But I don’t see an immediate change, because it’s easier to accept what you’re dealt with and to call other people libtards or GOPers because that makes us feel better on some stupid superficial level.
When all one does is claim everything moves the goalposts you probably have them within arms reach. It is sad how Republican voters that used to work for NPR ran like scalded dogs because the truth frightened them so badly. That tends to happen a lot when they're challenged. That's why they tend to congregate at places like FOX News and Breitbart. Now go ahead and throw your tantrum.
Isn't it funny? People going to prison and facing over 80 criminal counts and all they can do is obsess about who works at NPR.
Now you can bring out your goal posts Fate because I pointed out how you ignore things of substance while obsessing over things that are in comparison very trivial.
How is that Joe Biden impeachment going? Any updates? Trump isn't the person that was sentenced today. It was someone lying for him. But I forgot for a moment that isn't the type of thing you pay attention to.
Still not fully understanding the cryptic responses.
So the "element of truth" is that taxpayer-funded media where all editors have the same political ideology is acceptable? Nobody should bat an eyelash and question that?
I think to answer that question one would have to know more. Are those with a different ideology being refused employment over their political views? Of those that departed, were any of them fired or let go for inappropriate reasons? Often times people simply don't want to be around or work with people whose ideology differs from their own. Especially if they have other choices.
It seems to me you're posing a very open ended question which thus far has no context with which to draw a conclusion. The political divide and the disdain between the two parties has been growing for quite some time. I think the numbers in the source reflect that. There may be more to it than that but thus far I haven't seen anything indicated which reflects that.
It may be as simple as an Eveism. "I'm not going to work with these libtards!"
It's an opinion piece Facts don't matter, because "Fox" TRUMP! Interest is trivial TRUMP! We should only want to talk about what he wants to
And the best... we really need to be concerned with finding out if Republicans are being refused employment -- not the fact that taxpayer funded media only reports the views of half of America.
If they are not being refused employment or discriminated against due to their politics, they aren't there because they don't want to be there. Is that too simple of a concept for you to grasp?
You sure are having a bad day. Reality has escaped you during the entire thing.
Where did I say "interest is trivial"? Here's a clue for you, I didn't. When all you have is lies to try and prop up your posts it's a bad day for you. I've been talking about a lot of what you've wanted to. Sadly that hasn't worked out well for you either.
If they are not being refused employment or discriminated against due to their politics, they aren't there because they don't want to be there. Is that too simple of a concept for you to grasp?
You sure are having a bad day. Reality has escaped you during the entire thing.
Where did I say "interest is trivial"? Here's a clue for you, I didn't. When all you have is lies to try and prop up your posts it's a bad day for you. I've been talking about a lot of what you've wanted to. Sadly that hasn't worked out well for you either.
Sure you did. You said we should be talking about "TRUMP!" instead of obsessing over something so trivial...
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Isn't it funny? People going to prison and facing over 80 criminal counts and all they can do is obsess about who works at NPR.
Now you can bring out your goal posts Fate because I pointed out how you ignore things of substance while obsessing over things that are in comparison very trivial.
Yeah, I dont consider the corruption of public media "trivial".
Yeah but that's nothing compared to Trump. Plus we don't know if some republicans used to work there or how many decided to quit or how many may be left handed. Plus there is only a 0.01% increase in fake news but it's not really fake news because only Fox is questioning it. Plus, you see, #racism, #pedoswithsexdolls, #trumpagain
Still not fully understanding the cryptic responses.
So the "element of truth" is that taxpayer-funded media where all editors have the same political ideology is acceptable? Nobody should bat an eyelash and question that?
Normally I try to avoid the exchanges between you and Pit. Anyway, a reasonable question is "why is that".
If you go back in time, I suspect there would have been more Republicans as editors. Probably not so much today in a hyper-partisan world where differences of opinion has morphed into differences in ideology. All of a sudden facts matter.
Since partisanship became more vogue, editors have a professional responsibility to accuracy. Also as a matter of fact, NPR has always had a liberal slant, as stated in the article. I don't listen to it much, but Ad Fontus is probably the best indicator of bias.
Smerconish and Potus (Sirius/XM) is pretty neutral.
It used to be we could blame both parties for the nature of political discourse. Now we have facts versus Kellyanne's "Alternative Facts".
I think the data suggests that Democrats have remained about the same in terms of moderate/progressive mix, but the Republicans have fallen off the deep end, and the party as a whole has moved to the far right, and others have just become independents.
So there is an explanation, the gist is that R's have lost their marbles, and self sorted themselves out of a job at NPR, and found work at locations that are more ideological in nature.
Look no further than Ronna Romney McDaniel and NBC... yeah Trumps RNC operative who was knee deep in the the shenanigans, and the natives were not having any part of her act.
So you want to know what to do to effect change, my friend? And this is coming from someone who has started reaching the end of his rope. It’s to turn to our dumbass representatives who feel entitled in their role, regardless of party, and saying “Listen up you stupid butthead, I don’t like you. You really kinda suck. I’m going to vote for the other person unless you tangibly show me how you are legitimately representing my interests. Party means nothing to me. This is on you to prove yourself. If you don’t, we’ll find someone else!” And we have to follow up on that.
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work. In Colorado, republicans have become irrelevant as the democrats now have a super majority. Instead of trying to change their ways, Republicans doubled down on stupid. They won't even acknowledge there is a problem. Meanwhile, Democrats are now free to do what they want without consequence. They know they won't get voted out because that would mean people would vote republican which isn't going to happen.
Kiss my white privileged a$$. I don't lie about anything on here, and certainly don't need an imperialistic know-it-all to tell me what I am.
Never said you did. I was referring to today’s version of the GOP and those glorious Alternative Facts, Massive Voter Fraud Pizzagate and any number of other lies promoted by them.
If they are not being refused employment or discriminated against due to their politics, they aren't there because they don't want to be there. Is that too simple of a concept for you to grasp?
You sure are having a bad day. Reality has escaped you during the entire thing.
Where did I say "interest is trivial"? Here's a clue for you, I didn't. When all you have is lies to try and prop up your posts it's a bad day for you. I've been talking about a lot of what you've wanted to. Sadly that hasn't worked out well for you either.
Sure you did. You said we should be talking about "TRUMP!" instead of obsessing over something so trivial...
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Isn't it funny? People going to prison and facing over 80 criminal counts and all they can do is obsess about who works at NPR.
Now you can bring out your goal posts Fate because I pointed out how you ignore things of substance while obsessing over things that are in comparison very trivial.
Did your dog type that??
It does point out quite correctly about how you actually refuse to address the most important things going on in our society while obsessing about things much less important. It's a fixation some of you have. I'm sorry it #triggers you when someone point that out. Actually I'm not sorry.
All of what I said about them not being forced out of their job also seems correct according to what has been posted so far. Of course as per usual you'll ignore that. Typical.
All the whacko, far-right Republicans at NPR "self-sorted" themselves out of a job.
Gotcha.
But other than snide comments you have provided zero evidence any of them were forced out of their jobs.
Just because you say "maybe they were forced out of their jobs", with absolutely NO PROOF, doesn't mean I owe you proof that they weren't.
You truly, truly, truly live in a world of make-believe, and I'm pretty much done with the lunacy. I would rather talk to adults. Or, by 2pm, if this is a regular day at DT... my dog.
Maybe talking to more adults would help you grow up faster. You seem to have adopted the GOP version of reality. Make claims with zero substance and state you don't need to show any evidence they're true or real. #alternativereality. That's how we've gotten to where we are now.
If they are not being refused employment or discriminated against due to their politics, they aren't there because they don't want to be there. Is that too simple of a concept for you to grasp?
You sure are having a bad day. Reality has escaped you during the entire thing.
Where did I say "interest is trivial"? Here's a clue for you, I didn't. When all you have is lies to try and prop up your posts it's a bad day for you. I've been talking about a lot of what you've wanted to. Sadly that hasn't worked out well for you either.
Sure you did. You said we should be talking about "TRUMP!" instead of obsessing over something so trivial...
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Isn't it funny? People going to prison and facing over 80 criminal counts and all they can do is obsess about who works at NPR.
Now you can bring out your goal posts Fate because I pointed out how you ignore things of substance while obsessing over things that are in comparison very trivial.
Did your dog type that??
It does point out quite correctly about how you actually refuse to address the most important things going on in our society while obsessing about things much less important. It's a fixation some of you have. I'm sorry it #triggers you when someone point that out. Actually I'm not sorry.
All of what I said about them not being forced out of their job also seems correct according to what has been posted so far. Of course as per usual you'll ignore that. Typical.
And this points out. For the 560,349th time. That you think you are the Post Police.
And "someone" never points that out. Pit@DawgTalkers, with his infinite strawman narratives and Troll of All Trolls status does. The dude talking about how my posts are so "trivial" but is 5 minutes from starting a new thread to declare that Trump stepped on a bug in a blue state.
Pointing out the obvious doesn't make anyone the post police. It seems you think you are in charge of hiking on the board. But somebody had to fill the void left by Vers I suppose.
I know you think it's terrible someone interrupted your unsubstantiated narrative. The strawman narrative began when some of you made the unsubstantiated accusation that there was some sort of Democratic takeover of NPR. Thus far you have zero evidence that ever happened and act like that's someone elses fault.
I DID NOT WRITE THE ARTICLE. Someone that worked for NPR for 25 years did. But I'm sure you, Bulldog and Spiral know waaay more than he does.
This place is a dumbed-down version of Romper Room.
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In recent years I’ve struggled to answer that question. Concerned by the lack of viewpoint diversity, I looked at voter registration for our newsroom. In D.C., where NPR is headquartered and many of us live, I found 87 registered Democrats working in editorial positions and zero Republicans. None.
So on May 3, 2021, I presented the findings at an all-hands editorial staff meeting. When I suggested we had a diversity problem with a score of 87 Democrats and zero Republicans, the response wasn’t hostile. It was worse. It was met with profound indifference. I got a few messages from surprised, curious colleagues. But the messages were of the “oh wow, that’s weird” variety, as if the lopsided tally was a random anomaly rather than a critical failure of our diversity North Star.
In a follow-up email exchange, a top NPR news executive told me that she had been “skewered” for bringing up diversity of thought when she arrived at NPR. So, she said, “I want to be careful how we discuss this publicly.”
For years, I have been persistent. When I believe our coverage has gone off the rails, I have written regular emails to top news leaders, sometimes even having one-on-one sessions with them. On March 10, 2022, I wrote to a top news executive about the numerous times we described the controversial education bill in Florida as the “Don’t Say Gay” bill when it didn’t even use the word gay. I pushed to set the record straight, and wrote another time to ask why we keep using that word that many Hispanics hate—Latinx. On March 31, 2022, I was invited to a managers’ meeting to present my observations.
Throughout these exchanges, no one has ever trashed me. That’s not the NPR way. People are polite. But nothing changes. So I’ve become a visible wrong-thinker at a place I love. It’s uncomfortable, sometimes heartbreaking.
Even so, out of frustration, on November 6, 2022, I wrote to the captain of ship North Star—CEO John Lansing—about the lack of viewpoint diversity and asked if we could have a conversation about it. I got no response, so I followed up four days later. He said he would appreciate hearing my perspective and copied his assistant to set up a meeting. On December 15, the morning of the meeting, Lansing’s assistant wrote back to cancel our conversation because he was under the weather. She said he was looking forward to chatting and a new meeting invitation would be sent. But it never came.
"Fate's just making stuff up".
And get this... Pit and Bulldog pulled out their crystal balls and decided that the Republicans worked themselves out of editor jobs there... and now I'm obligated to prove them wrong! 🤣
How does any of that show anyone was forced to leave their jobs? It doesn't. How does it show anyone was refused a job based on their politics? It doesn't. Keep flailing your arms in the air. Proving us wrong isn't your issue. Proving yourself right is. It's you accusations with you having no supporting facts. The man who is actually saying these things has worked for NPR for 25 years. How is that possible if everyone of his political leanings have been "forced out of their jobs"?
I didn't say it was a lie. I stated that nothing in the article even indicated anyone was forced out of their job nor has it been shown that anyone was denied employment based on their politics. And it most certainly doesn't do either of those things. And if everyone of his political view was forced out of their jobs, why is he still working there after 25 years? I know you actually addressing these things isn't likely. You would rather dodge them and post sarcasm.
The only one that wants to discuss whether they were forced out of jobs or denied employment is you.
Again, a man is drowning, you want me to prove water is only wet when a donkey carries it to a Trump Rally.
You seem to think a man standing in a three inch puddle is drowning. You have shown no evidence a man is drowning. It seems since you can't back up what it was you were claiming you want to make that my fault.
Ooooooooo Purp, there’s a lot of white on white crime going on in this thread!!
And look who's snitchin'! The world is truly inside-out!
I’m trying to dodge that RICO case!
Funny thing. He seems to have no problem when people have talked about black on black crime. At least he's never posted anything about it. I wonder what makes this different?
Cherry pick a poll that says your boy is winning and that's that. Why doesn't Biden just throw in the towel,,, Right Eve"? Over the next 7 or 8 months, their positions in polls will change every week. Don't put any store in any of that today.
Most of the polls have Trump leading. But I get that polls can be wrong. Especially if bias was used in picking respondents. However, this was a NYT poll so I'm just going to LOL.
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg It’s not so hilarious how some ‘conservtards’ act like donny isn’t going to be nominated by their party to run again in a couple years. And how you all act like he holds no power over you… yet you’ll gladly pull the handle for his stupid arse.
Hey Eve remember when we told you over an over and over and over that you could be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic of COVID and you got it and ended up ranting that no one told you? Well we’re telling you donny is a dangerous idiot and your party is going to put him in power again. Don’t act like you weren’t warned this time. Though you’ll likely vote for him because the conservtard runs deep in you.
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I have news for you. Trump isn't going to be re-elected. Stop shaking in your boots. The sky isn't falling. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position.
Now all we need to know is what was he referring to? If he was talking about changing the amount of the judgement in the sexual assault case he has every right to change that judgement......
In any trial the judge is the ultimate decision maker and has the power to overturn a jury verdict if there is insufficient evidence to support that verdict or if the decision granted inadequate compensatory damages.
Nowhere did he say or indicate it had anything to do with "emotions".
He is a civil judge who here's civil cases. As such he has the right to overrule the jury on a judgement amount. All civil judges do. This has nothing to do with any trump criminal case.
Nowhere did he say or indicate it had anything to do with "emotions".
"Am I following the law or am I making the law? (shrugs) Okay, I'm following the law, I'm an impartial referee. BUT, it's hard to factor out my own emotions."
You suck at this. Should I scream bloody murder, pee my pants and call you a liar -- like you've done the last few days?
This was my favorite part, well besides the jurys often get it wrong but I'll show their asses part...
"I have tools. Someone may say 'your honor, you have to throw out this case, it's just like another case'. Well, is it just like another case? What if the defendant was wearing a red sweater instead of a blue sweater?"
In other words, he is judge, jury and executioner and he'll prove it. He just demonstrated that there is just enough leeway for him to interpret any case any way he wants to... and he'll adjust accordingly whenever he sees fit.
You do realize he didn't change the judgement, right?
So the fact it's hard to do means he doesn't factor them out of his decision? Of course it's hard. It seems as though all you're doing is raising a stink over nothing. This trial is over and a judgment has been entered. The jury established the judgement and he in no way changed that judgement.
I actually believe you got the judges mixed up and thought this was the judge conducting the hush money trial. Why else would anyone care what a judge said about his ability to change a judgement in a trial that's over in which he didn't change anything? Hmmmmm......
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg It’s not so hilarious how some ‘conservtards’ act like donny isn’t going to be nominated by their party to run again in a couple years. And how you all act like he holds no power over you… yet you’ll gladly pull the handle for his stupid arse.
Hey Eve remember when we told you over an over and over and over that you could be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic of COVID and you got it and ended up ranting that no one told you? Well we’re telling you donny is a dangerous idiot and your party is going to put him in power again. Don’t act like you weren’t warned this time. Though you’ll likely vote for him because the conservtard runs deep in you.
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I have news for you. Trump isn't going to be re-elected. Stop shaking in your boots. The sky isn't falling. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position.
Yeah, I had no idea how badly Biden would mismanage the country.
You do realize he didn't change the judgement, right?
Wouldn't it be easier, say... once a month, or even once a year... to say "I was wrong".
And now you've decided I mixed up the trials??
What did he change? Did he change the judgement? If not what is it he did that makes you think that has anything to do with the trial?
What part of this are you having trouble understanding?
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"I'm following the law, I'm an impartial referee. BUT, it's hard to factor out my own emotions."
He made it clear he follows the law and not his emotions.
Yet you make this bogus claim....
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In other words, he is judge, jury and executioner and he'll prove it. He just demonstrated that there is just enough leeway for him to interpret any case any way he wants to... and he'll adjust accordingly whenever he sees fit.
While I've shown you that every civil trial judge has the right to do this.....
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In any trial the judge is the ultimate decision maker and has the power to overturn a jury verdict if there is insufficient evidence to support that verdict or if the decision granted inadequate compensatory damages.
You do realize he didn't change the judgement, right?
Wouldn't it be easier, say... once a month, or even once a year... to say "I was wrong".
And now you've decided I mixed up the trials??
What did he change? Did he change the judgement? If not what is it he did that makes you think that has anything to do with the trial?
What part of this are you having trouble understanding?
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"I'm following the law, I'm an impartial referee. BUT, it's hard to factor out my own emotions."
He made it clear he follows the law and not his emotions.
Yet you make this bogus claim....
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In other words, he is judge, jury and executioner and he'll prove it. He just demonstrated that there is just enough leeway for him to interpret any case any way he wants to... and he'll adjust accordingly whenever he sees fit.
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg It’s not so hilarious how some ‘conservtards’ act like donny isn’t going to be nominated by their party to run again in a couple years. And how you all act like he holds no power over you… yet you’ll gladly pull the handle for his stupid arse.
Hey Eve remember when we told you over an over and over and over that you could be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic of COVID and you got it and ended up ranting that no one told you? Well we’re telling you donny is a dangerous idiot and your party is going to put him in power again. Don’t act like you weren’t warned this time. Though you’ll likely vote for him because the conservtard runs deep in you.
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I have news for you. Trump isn't going to be re-elected. Stop shaking in your boots. The sky isn't falling. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position.
Yeah, I had no idea how badly Biden would mismanage the country.
Yet out of every politician they could have nominated, they chose trump. What is it you always say? "Just take the L."
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg It’s not so hilarious how some ‘conservtards’ act like donny isn’t going to be nominated by their party to run again in a couple years. And how you all act like he holds no power over you… yet you’ll gladly pull the handle for his stupid arse.
Hey Eve remember when we told you over an over and over and over that you could be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic of COVID and you got it and ended up ranting that no one told you? Well we’re telling you donny is a dangerous idiot and your party is going to put him in power again. Don’t act like you weren’t warned this time. Though you’ll likely vote for him because the conservtard runs deep in you.
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I have news for you. Trump isn't going to be re-elected. Stop shaking in your boots. The sky isn't falling. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position.
Yeah, I had no idea how badly Biden would mismanage the country.
I had a feeling that would be your response, which is why I will post your next message from that thread:
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I see you need a news flash also. Conservative moderates don't like him, so it's not likely he will be the nominee. Stop shaking in your boots. It's like you give yourself a heart attack every five minutes. Sing Soft Kitty to yourself or something.
Based on the fact he stated he had the same right as every other judge in determining the judgement in a civil trial and the fact that he stated he based his judgement on the law and not his emotions.
"Am I following the law or am I making the law? (shrugs) Okay, I'm following the law, I'm an impartial referee. BUT, it's hard to factor out my own emotions."
I know you think that if you wait 90 minutes everyone will forget the conversation. Waving your magic wand doesn't make it true.
The first post, the tweet, the video, everything surrounding this argument is grounded in his own personal quote about his emotions. This is the third time you've disputed his very own words.
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg It’s not so hilarious how some ‘conservtards’ act like donny isn’t going to be nominated by their party to run again in a couple years. And how you all act like he holds no power over you… yet you’ll gladly pull the handle for his stupid arse.
Hey Eve remember when we told you over an over and over and over that you could be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic of COVID and you got it and ended up ranting that no one told you? Well we’re telling you donny is a dangerous idiot and your party is going to put him in power again. Don’t act like you weren’t warned this time. Though you’ll likely vote for him because the conservtard runs deep in you.
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I have news for you. Trump isn't going to be re-elected. Stop shaking in your boots. The sky isn't falling. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position.
Yeah, I had no idea how badly Biden would mismanage the country.
I had a feeling that would be your response, which is why I will post your next message from that thread:
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I see you need a news flash also. Conservative moderates don't like him, so it's not likely he will be the nominee. Stop shaking in your boots. It's like you give yourself a heart attack every five minutes. Sing Soft Kitty to yourself or something.
Props on the consistent decorum by the way.
What I said is true. Trump is not a likeable person. To anybody. BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED. Can you wrap your head around the present not being the past. If this country wasn't in such bad shape people would not vote for him. Biden dug himself into a hole and on Nov 5 he will be buried.
"Am I following the law or am I making the law? (shrugs) Okay, I'm following the law, I'm an impartial referee. BUT, it's hard to factor out my own emotions."
I have no idea what part of this you are missing. Every human being with a soul has emotions. He made it quite clear that rather than judge with his emotions he judges by the law even though that can be hard to do.
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I know you think that if you wait 90 minutes everyone will forget the conversation. Waving your magic wand doesn't make it true.
No, I believe most people have a grasp of basic English.
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The first post, the tweet, the video, everything surrounding this argument is grounded in his own personal quote about his emotions. This is the third time you've disputed his very own words.
Cue the goalposts...
The only goalpost being moved here is you somehow think while he plainly states his emotions have nothing to do with his decisions you can twist that into meaning they do.
Somehow in your brain you have twisted that into claiming "He's a bad judge".
Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open. NONE of us thought Trump would be the nominee three years ago. It's not even a gotcha moment.
If you dig around in the DT swamp, you can find all kinds of troll bait. Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Nobody said a word about supporting Trump. Nobody called anyone a liberal. You need a lobotomy.
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Nobody said a word about supporting Trump. Nobody called anyone a liberal. You need a lobotomy.
And OCD said both those things. Bet??
Isn't it nap time??
He disappears when at 5pm when his wife comes home from work. She's the breadwinner and wears the pants.
My wife is retired too. Maybe if you work real hard and try to be a better person you will get to retire too some day. I have better things to do than play games with the mindless in the late afternoon and evening so I turn my attention to other things. Your ghetto style of posting explains a lot.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
Why are libtards so blind? Can you not see that Biden has turned the country into a dumpster fire? This is the reason myself and millions of others will be voting for Trump. I understand that you have TDS and it makes you hysterical, but at some point you gotta see how bad things are.
Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open. NONE of us thought Trump would be the nominee three years ago. It's not even a gotcha moment.
If you dig around in the DT swamp, you can find all kinds of troll bait. Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
If Nancy Drew could solve cases in 1 minute, then yes, I'm like Nancy Drew. It's pretty easy. I remember being surprised by her making statements that the moderates would keep Trump out, that he wasn't likeable and that she wasn't necessarily a fan. I guess that's all revised.
As far as a schoolgirl or immaturity goes, I don't know if you've kept track of all your 67,000 posts as of recent with the memes and the shouting and whatnot, but it's not really a finger you should point. I treat posters with the same decorum that they offer me, and I'm consistent.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
Why are libtards so blind? Can you not see that Biden has turned the country into a dumpster fire? This is the reason myself and millions of others will be voting for Trump. I understand that you have TDS and it makes you hysterical, but at some point you gotta see how bad things are.
Welcome to the club, oober! We can start a local chapter.
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Nobody said a word about supporting Trump. Nobody called anyone a liberal. You need a lobotomy.
And OCD said both those things. Bet??
Isn't it nap time??
He disappears when at 5pm when his wife comes home from work. She's the breadwinner and wears the pants.
This kind of personal attack ain't right, Eve. Come on, that's out of bounds. I called Perfect out for it, and I'll call you out for it. That's wrong. Come on now. I know you like to troll and that's fine, but this ain't right.
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Nobody said a word about supporting Trump. Nobody called anyone a liberal. You need a lobotomy.
And OCD said both those things. Bet??
Isn't it nap time??
He disappears when at 5pm when his wife comes home from work. She's the breadwinner and wears the pants.
This kind of personal attack ain't right, Eve. Come on, that's out of bounds. I called Perfect out for it, and I'll call you out for it. That's wrong. Come on now. I know you like to troll and that's fine, but this ain't right.
Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open. NONE of us thought Trump would be the nominee three years ago. It's not even a gotcha moment.
If you dig around in the DT swamp, you can find all kinds of troll bait. Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
If Nancy Drew could solve cases in 1 minute, then yes, I'm like Nancy Drew. It's pretty easy. I remember being surprised by her making statements that the moderates would keep Trump out, that he wasn't likeable and that she wasn't necessarily a fan. I guess that's all revised.
As far as a schoolgirl or immaturity goes, I don't know if you've kept track of all your 67,000 posts as of recent with the memes and the shouting and whatnot, but it's not really a finger you should point. I treat posters with the same decorum that they offer me, and I'm consistent.
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Ha, add it to the list. I've been disparaged by people on both sides now claiming that I'm (insert pejorative here) on the other side. Been called a Libtard by Eve and a GOPer by Perfect.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
Why are all the libs ready to shed tears if someone doesn't say they hate Trump?
She says he's unlikable, Oobs cries, you call it "exuberance for Trump". And you seriously insist that it's "not TDS". 🤣 You guys need to put on the big boy pants and get ready for November... just in case.
I think you unfairly get painted in a bad light because you dare defend Republicans and occasionally Trump.
After reading through a bunch of threads this evening to catch up, I’m fairly confident I can say that is not why Fate gets treated like he does.
Well aren't we the passive aggressive one?
Don't be shy, if you're going to chop a post from three weeks ago to get in a dig, spill the beans.
What's so bad about Fate that's different than the people he's responding to?
Fate, you just stood out as extremely hypocritical. Calling others trolls and childish is hilarious after reading through your posts. That post just made me laugh, like I said, I’m catching up. Looking forward to seeing if my first impressions of you are correct.
I think you unfairly get painted in a bad light because you dare defend Republicans and occasionally Trump.
After reading through a bunch of threads this evening to catch up, I’m fairly confident I can say that is not why Fate gets treated like he does.
Well aren't we the passive aggressive one?
Don't be shy, if you're going to chop a post from three weeks ago to get in a dig, spill the beans.
What's so bad about Fate that's different than the people he's responding to?
Fate, you just stood out as extremely hypocritical. Calling others trolls and childish is hilarious after reading through your posts. That post just made me laugh, like I said, I’m catching up. Looking forward to seeing if my first impressions of you are correct.
First impressions? I realize you don't post here very often, it's rather surprising that you just now read some of my posts.
So, obviously you think I'm a troll and immature. Seems like quite the conclusion after just now reading some of my posts, and obviously just a few of them.
You let me know if I live up to your expectations.
You know what's strange? I argue with the same three or four people here everyday. I dish out the same thing in return that I get from them. Today I stick up for someone that is constantly harassed here because someone goes digging in the dirt to belittle her for a big nothing burger. The dumbest of dumb, and they all pile on. It's funny the level that goes to -- and usually goes unchecked -- but as soon as someone takes exception, everyone's hair is on fire.
Nice to make your acquaintance. Sorry my posts were so disappointing, I'll try to do better.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
Why are libtards so blind? Can you not see that Biden has turned the country into a dumpster fire? This is the reason myself and millions of others will be voting for Trump. I understand that you have TDS and it makes you hysterical, but at some point you gotta see how bad things are.
Please list the ways that Biden has turned the US into a dumpster fire
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
Why are libtards so blind? Can you not see that Biden has turned the country into a dumpster fire? This is the reason myself and millions of others will be voting for Trump. I understand that you have TDS and it makes you hysterical, but at some point you gotta see how bad things are.
Please list the ways that Biden has turned the US into a dumpster fire
Inflation is a major dumpster fire. Mass influx of illegals is a dumpster fire. Continued weakness on the world stage and not supporting our allies is a dumpster fire. Crime is a dumpster fire. Liberal policies destroying our school system and ruining our childrens futures is a dumpster fire. Constant lies and dementia by our POTUS is a dumpster fire.
I'm sure you all will foam at the mouth, have hysteria, do whatabouts, and Pit will cherry pick worthless datapoints, but none of it matters, because these are issues the voters will take to the polls and will result in votes for Trump. Interviews and polls with voters have said as much. Be in denial all you want, I have work to do.
It was 05 that dug it up. Are you now joining Eve in claiming a former republican who simply can't support the extremism is a liberal like she does?
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Y'all are like school girls. One playing Nancy Drew, the rest of you gawking with your mouth gaping open.
So that's what you think of 05 huh?
You see, the Republican base could have chosen from dozens of other nominees to support and nominate but they doubled down on trump. I know people such as yourself like to try and turn the tables by acting like people who point that out are to blame but that's because the party of personal responsibility no longer exists.
Hey 05! there's another one trying to lump you in as a liberal because you won't blindly support trump!
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Hell, three years ago OCD said Biden was senile and not worthy to be president, now he's the "best president of my lifetime".
You know, I haven't seen a single poster on this board say that. Not even OCD. Hyperbole much?
Nobody said a word about supporting Trump. Nobody called anyone a liberal. You need a lobotomy.
And OCD said both those things. Bet??
Isn't it nap time??
I hated that we elected Joe over Bernie… Joe proved he wasn’t a neocon like Hillary. And yes, legislatively Biden is hands down the best in my lifetime. Just the infrastructure package alone was more than most.
Now all of you can try to focus on this one tip, keep my handle out of your mouth and posts. You don’t want this kind of heat. None of you.
Everything is a dumpster fire!! Everything is crap!! Everything and everyone sucks!!
Good lord you conservatives are a bunch of miserable people.
People is a bit of a stretch there bro, trogs rarely qualify. And these MAGA twits wouldn’t know a conservative if they shot them in the ass with an AR15.
I do appreciate the distinction between conservative and....whatever you would call the current majority sect of Republicans. That's why I always use "Conservative" (big C) to desecribe the current machine and "conservative" (little C) to try and differentiate between the current movement and the core foundational beliefs. I'm pretty confident that Eisenhower and Nixon would not want anything to do with the current Conservative caucus. I'd even say Reagan wouldn't as well.
Hell, even Romney and McCain, the last two Republican nominees pre-2016 were trampled by the current movement.
I think it really just comes down to the name now, because your average voters simply look for a party identifier before they vote, especially on down ballot candidates. They rally behind the political party name, regardless of where the platform has drifted. It's backwards from the foundational aspects of our country, where the dynamic was grass roots. Now it is top-down with the average voter possessing little to no insight on current political issues and the root causes. Now it has drifted into process of:
1. Watch slanted news program 2. Hear them fear/rage monger at an issue 3. Viewer reacts with fear/rage they are being fed 4. Sling fecal matter 5. Vote 6. Repeat
Liberals like to talk tough on taxes, but lack the will to implement it. My guess is members of the committee probably have short term rentals that would be impacted.
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"Short-term rental hosts are just average everyday people," said Anderson. "You know, it's somebody that wants to rent out a basement to offset their mortgage. It's somebody that wants a dream house in the mountains, and they can only afford it if they have short-term rental income."
If you have a dream home in the mountains, you are not an average everyday person. You're looking at 2 million just for a condo up there.
They did not start as socialists. The name itself does not imply the actual political practices of the group. North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. It's hardly a democracy.
The Nazis had to overcome to the communists in order to reach power. Hitler imprisoned a bunch of the communists who eventually made their way to concentration camps.
Look, I don’t espouse socialism either because I think it rewards complacency, but that is just wrong. It’s more the WW2 history being butchered that bothers me, so this is the last I will say anything about this in this thread. But that is just plain wrong. I’m not sure what Moses even is. Again, the moniker does not define the actions.
Again, they rose to power by surpressing, eventually by violence, the communists in Germany. In that era, I don’t think you’d see that sharply of a friction between true socialists and the burgeoning communism of the time.
We both agree that we don’t favor socialism, but the segue from Nazism to socialism to somehow the Democratic Party today is a falsity. Go after them for their own crony capitalism that they’re guilty of (happens in defense lobby), go after them fir specific platforms, like the sect who wants to perpetuate cis male athletes playing women’s sports, vehemently disagree with them on economic issues, etc. That’s all good (it would be better if it was presented in a thoughtful way). But this false equivalence is just dangerous, MTG type nonsense.
So how does that change the fact that Josh Hawley says crazy things? Or are you claiming he doesn't?
Says the one who routinely asks if the content is true or not when someone else attacks a source.
You do understand what you responded to, correct? My entire quote you used asked if Josh Hawley said crazy things. Should we just call you Mr. Dodge Ball?
Is this where you make up random statments and then try apply them to me?
Kick rocks dude. Go play with a kindergarnter.
You always say stuff like that when you don't have an answer.. Just like your leader.
You always make up random statements and apply them to me. I dont have to answer stupidity like that. A kindergartner is more your intellect speed. You should hangout at playgrounds.
Is this where you make up random statments and then try apply them to me?
Kick rocks dude. Go play with a kindergarnter.
You always say stuff like that when you don't have an answer.. Just like your leader.
You always make up random statements and apply them to me. I dont have to answer stupidity like that. A kindergartner is more your intellect speed. You should hangout at playgrounds.
I watched your video. Not sure why you are laughing at Eve for posting what she did. He clearly stated that blanket bans will not be legal. There can be some exceptions but it was pretty convoluted.
What do you mean by "convoluted'? I understand that older students that have already matured to the point that male muscle mass outweigh anything else is something that shouldn't be allowed. But you may want to take another look. I was responding to FATE's posting of a Tweet that makes blanket statements that are only a fraction of the issue and do not accurately reflect reality. Bullet points in a Tweet in no way tell the entire story on the topic.
And let me ask you, why are they so opposed to calling a child he or her? What harm does it do to call them by the pronoun they wish to be addressed as? I mean in what way does that harm them?
Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity. None of this was a huge issue until Betsy DeVos rolled back these existing things during the trump presidency. Then all of a sudden it became a political football.
Blanket bans were made legal in several states. I believe it was in 20 states. That's why the need to change this came about in the first place. Now they wish to whine about a situation they themselves created.
Why would he have a problem with this criminal and other senior DOE employees trading and owning stocks related to the agency’s work?
Hawley is an unabashed rear-end hole, for sure. He twists and turns all kinds of facts and he postures like the sleaziest of them all. He is among my most hated politicians.
In this case, though, he's right if they are in fact trading. The only thing I'd like to clarify is what her response to those allegations would have been. That is a clear conflict of interest. I do wish he would spread that same type of disdain to all of his colleagues in both houses of Congress, though. I also imagine that is something that runs rampant regardless of who is in the respective cabinet posts.
It is definitely something that gets under my skin because, again, I have to disclose every stock and asset I own that is over $1,000 as a part of my job. Oh, and guess what if one of those stocks is LMT, RTX, NOC, BA or GD? Big trouble for me. If only those in charge of the posts and those who actually appropriate money would be held to the same standard.
^ See DL. It was a "one sided Tweet with no actual context".
It had nothing to do with the ongoing investigation in which she lied about stock holdings, admitted it, and later said that she simply forgot. It had nothing to do with the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing where it was disclosed that she had holdings like Ford... while the Energy Department has allocated more than $9 billion to help the company build factories devoted to electric energy.
It's just a dirty, dirty Tweet posted by FATE... because Pitzmagic.
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
You may be projecting if you think this is crying. If anything, I was being facetious.
I think your buddy was confused then. No surprised, you're so damned esoteric.
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Originally Posted by oobernoober
With all that has occurred and is now coming to a head, your ability to simply characterize Trump as 'not likeable' is astounding.
I am in awe.
She ain't the only one. It's truly concerning. The level of cognitive dissonance combined with amnesia is truly insane. I don't even care if people don't like Biden. Hell, I don't like Biden. Somehow though it's let its way into this weird exuberance for Trump. I think it's more of people wanting the left to be owned again. See the rhetoric by the subject poster as Exhibit A.
He and I are starting a band, trying to decide on a name: Projecting? (with the confused implied) Dazed and Projected Project Confucius
We're looking for a drummer. We tried out Pit, but he keeps missing every rimshot. I was surprised, he can beat every dead horse past recognition. Let me know if you're interested. (It's a great gig and DL always springs for the Bud Light)
Look, I'm sorry for pissing you guys off with the schoolgirl b.s. It was 100% joke. It just seems strange to pick on Eve for what she was being picked on for. We can truce it out or I can come to Ooberville and self-immolate, your choice.
1. I would absolutely love to hang out with you in Ooberville. I would pick up all the rounds.
2. I do find it odd your need to stick up for the person that has literally taken it to a personal level to trash anyone who might disagree with her. I think if your politics differed that you might not feel the same way and see it for what it is.
So Biden aids, unbeknownst to Biden, have coined a nick name for Trump, and I can’t help but laugh and nod… I give you “HITLER PIG”, so stupid, but they nailed it.